[CODE4LIB] Logo vote

2008-09-26 Thread Roy Tennant
The logo voting seems to have died down at 109 votes cast, and it breaks
down like this (you can see these results at
http://www.micropoll.com/akira/mpresult/479444-107406):

No logo: 8%
Do it ourselves: 8%
Combo of professional designer and ourselves: 26%
Don't care: 27%
Professional designer: 31%

Since there was no clear majority, I think we should have a run-off between
the combo option and only a professional designer.

But I think the options should be more clearly stated than they were before
(sorry!):

Combo Option:
One person would receive all the designs from both internal designers and
any professional designers willing to submit designs for free, and they are
put up for a vote without anyone knowing who did which design.

Professional Option 1:
We accept Stephanie Brinley's kind offer, request a few different ideas,
vote on those ideas to settle on one, and the final version is created from
the winning idea.

Professional Option 2:
Hire a different professional designer (to be determined) from whom we
solicit a few different ideas, vote on the ideas, and the final version is
created from the winning idea.

Yes, consensus is tedious. Competing ideas, objections, embellishments
welcome. Otherwise, I'll set up another vote on the three options above and
the one with the most votes takes it.
Roy


Re: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote

2008-09-26 Thread Cloutman, David
I think we should vote on the options you outlined below. It seems like
a fair and reasonable way for the community to select a process.

- David

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David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Services Librarian
Marin County Free Library 

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Roy Tennant
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:53 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote


The logo voting seems to have died down at 109 votes cast, and it breaks
down like this (you can see these results at
http://www.micropoll.com/akira/mpresult/479444-107406):

No logo: 8%
Do it ourselves: 8%
Combo of professional designer and ourselves: 26%
Don't care: 27%
Professional designer: 31%

Since there was no clear majority, I think we should have a run-off
between
the combo option and only a professional designer.

But I think the options should be more clearly stated than they were
before
(sorry!):

Combo Option:
One person would receive all the designs from both internal designers
and
any professional designers willing to submit designs for free, and they
are
put up for a vote without anyone knowing who did which design.

Professional Option 1:
We accept Stephanie Brinley's kind offer, request a few different ideas,
vote on those ideas to settle on one, and the final version is created
from
the winning idea.

Professional Option 2:
Hire a different professional designer (to be determined) from whom we
solicit a few different ideas, vote on the ideas, and the final version
is
created from the winning idea.

Yes, consensus is tedious. Competing ideas, objections, embellishments
welcome. Otherwise, I'll set up another vote on the three options above
and
the one with the most votes takes it.
Roy

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Re: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote

2008-09-26 Thread Antonio Barrera
And please, no option like Don't Care.  Not voting is the voting for
Don't Care.  

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From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Cloutman, David
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:00 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
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I think we should vote on the options you outlined below. It seems like
a fair and reasonable way for the community to select a process.

- David

---
David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Services Librarian
Marin County Free Library 

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Roy Tennant
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:53 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote


The logo voting seems to have died down at 109 votes cast, and it breaks
down like this (you can see these results at
http://www.micropoll.com/akira/mpresult/479444-107406):

No logo: 8%
Do it ourselves: 8%
Combo of professional designer and ourselves: 26%
Don't care: 27%
Professional designer: 31%

Since there was no clear majority, I think we should have a run-off
between
the combo option and only a professional designer.

But I think the options should be more clearly stated than they were
before
(sorry!):

Combo Option:
One person would receive all the designs from both internal designers
and
any professional designers willing to submit designs for free, and they
are
put up for a vote without anyone knowing who did which design.

Professional Option 1:
We accept Stephanie Brinley's kind offer, request a few different ideas,
vote on those ideas to settle on one, and the final version is created
from
the winning idea.

Professional Option 2:
Hire a different professional designer (to be determined) from whom we
solicit a few different ideas, vote on the ideas, and the final version
is
created from the winning idea.

Yes, consensus is tedious. Competing ideas, objections, embellishments
welcome. Otherwise, I'll set up another vote on the three options above
and
the one with the most votes takes it.
Roy

Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm


Re: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote

2008-09-26 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
Yeah, and no silly options like NINJAS!!!

Because, you know, NINJAS!!! always wins.

-Mike

P.S. Thanks, royt!


On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Antonio Barrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And please, no option like Don't Care.  Not voting is the voting for
 Don't Care.

 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Cloutman, David
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:00 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote

 I think we should vote on the options you outlined below. It seems like
 a fair and reasonable way for the community to select a process.

 - David

 ---
 David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Electronic Services Librarian
 Marin County Free Library


Re: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote

2008-09-26 Thread Thomas Dowling
On 09/26/2008 02:52 PM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote:
 Yeah, and no silly options like NINJAS!!!
 
 Because, you know, NINJAS!!! always wins.
 

Wait, we can have ninjas for our logo?


Re: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote

2008-09-26 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Thomas Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wait, we can have ninjas for our logo?

/me sees a lot of the don't care votes changing



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There are two kinds of people in the world: those who believe there
are two kinds of people and those who know better.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote

2008-09-26 Thread Ross Singer
You wouldn't be able to see it, though.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Thomas Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 09/26/2008 02:52 PM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote:
 Yeah, and no silly options like NINJAS!!!

 Because, you know, NINJAS!!! always wins.


 Wait, we can have ninjas for our logo?



Re: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote

2008-09-26 Thread Shanley-Roberts, Ross A. Mr.
Ninjas!!!

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From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Dowling
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:57 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote

On 09/26/2008 02:52 PM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote:
 Yeah, and no silly options like NINJAS!!!

 Because, you know, NINJAS!!! always wins.


Wait, we can have ninjas for our logo?


[CODE4LIB] Zotero under attack

2008-09-26 Thread wally grotophorst

http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/09/17/Reuters_Says_George_Mason_University_Is_Handing_Out_Its_Proprietary_Software.htm

I guess stuff like this is what gives me that anti-corporate bias...


Re: [CODE4LIB] Zotero under attack

2008-09-26 Thread Reese, Terry
Hopefully, this quote from the article:

A significant and highly touted feature of the new beta
version of Zotero, however, is its ability to convert - in direct
violation of the License Agreement - Thomson's 3,500 plus proprietary
.ens style files within the EndNote Software into free, open source,
easily distributable Zotero .csl files

isn't quite this straightforward.  While reverse engineering the .ens
style files really isn't that big of a deal (this kind of reverse
engineering is generally legally permitted), utilizing the collected
knowledge-base from an End-note application is.  I've run into this in
the past with other software that I've worked on -- there is a good deal
of legal tiptoeing that often needs to be done when you are building
software that will essentially bird dog another (proprietary)
application's knowledge-base. 

--TR

 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
 wally grotophorst
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:09 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: [CODE4LIB] Zotero under attack
 

http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/09/17/Reuters_Says_George_Mason_Univ
 ersity_Is_Handing_Out_Its_Proprietary_Software.htm
 
 I guess stuff like this is what gives me that anti-corporate bias...