Re: [CODE4LIB] Ten years

2009-04-20 Thread Daniel Chudnov

On Apr 18, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Roy Tennant wrote:


Domain Name:OSS4LIB.ORG
Created On:17-Nov-1999 23:05:50 UTC


That's just the domain.  The site, and the list, went online in  
roughly February 1999, based at yale.  Wayback found out about it in  
april:


  http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://info.med.yale.edu/library/oss4lib


So perhaps ten years isn't that far off after all. I also had no  
idea it was

registered by someone in Portugal.


All 280 of us here relocated the home office to Lisbon in 2006.  Where  
have you been?  And why don't you visit?


In case anybody wondered, that list is still alive, as are the  
majority of its subscribers.  Feel free to use it if you like.


  -Dan


[CODE4LIB] can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?

2009-04-20 Thread Barnett, Jeffrey
I know the answer is yes, but does anyone care to speculate on the impact of 
Oracle's takeover of Sun, which controls in addition to open source workhorse 
JAVA, MySQL, OpenOffice, and Netbeans (all of which complete with proprietary 
products from Oracle).  I haven't heard anything quotable recently from Larry 
Ellison, but he has in the pass been an ardent opponent of OSS and I find it 
hard to imagine him not taking advantage of this opportunity to place 
roadblocks and/or booby traps in the way of the OSS community.


Re: [CODE4LIB] can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?

2009-04-20 Thread Thomas Dowling
On 04/20/2009 10:13 AM, Barnett, Jeffrey wrote:
 I know the answer is yes, but does anyone care to speculate on the
 impact of Oracle's takeover of Sun, which controls in addition to open
 source workhorse JAVA, MySQL, OpenOffice, and Netbeans (all of which
 complete with proprietary products from Oracle).


Meh.  I don't know the intricacies of Java or NetBeans, but with MySQL, a
non-nurturing environment at Ora-Sun will either lead to a fork handled by
someone more invested in it, or a gradual move to PostgreSQL; if that spurs
some development to simplify psql, it's arguably a win all around.

OO.o development doesn't seem to be in the fast lane as it is, so I'm not sure
it could suffer much if Sun bails on it.  And isn't IBM contributing at least
as much as Sun these days?  Maybe it needs something like this to shake it up.


-- 
Thomas Dowling
tdowl...@ohiolink.edu


[CODE4LIB] can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?

2009-04-20 Thread Mike Taylor
Barnett, Jeffrey writes:
  I know the answer is yes, but does anyone care to speculate on the
  impact of Oracle's takeover of Sun, which controls in addition to
  open source workhorse JAVA, MySQL, OpenOffice, and Netbeans (all of
  which complete with proprietary products from Oracle).  I haven't
  heard anything quotable recently from Larry Ellison, but he has in
  the pass been an ardent opponent of OSS and I find it hard to
  imagine him not taking advantage of this opportunity to place
  roadblocks and/or booby traps in the way of the OSS community.

I foresee a forkfest.  Which of course is the beauty of Free Software:
even if the copyright is acquired by an Evil Empire, they can't stop
us from continuing to develop from the last freely-released version
onwards.  There will still be Java, MySQL, OpenOffice and (I suppose
it can't be avoided) NetBeans -- the only questions is how much Oracle
proposes to involve themselves in the maintenance and development
process.

 _/|____
/o ) \/  Mike Taylorm...@indexdata.comhttp://www.miketaylor.org.uk
)_v__/\  Stay tuned for exciting news about chicken zygapophyses --
 Matt Wedel.


Re: [CODE4LIB] can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?

2009-04-20 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
The user community for these products is WAY bigger than code4lib, 
naturally.  If Oracle manages to mess them up, then the user community 
will fork, or migrate to different products, and we will follow.  
Fortunately we are not alone here, there are giant communities formed 
around these open source products, which will keep using open source 
products to fill those functions one way or another, and we'll go with 
them.


Not to imply that a custodial company who wanted to couldn't make things 
very inconvenient in the short to medium term, sure. But it's just 
speculation at this point, I don't see any reason to get alarmed.  And 
one way or another, it'll work out in the end.


Jonathan

Barnett, Jeffrey wrote:

I know the answer is yes, but does anyone care to speculate on the impact of 
Oracle's takeover of Sun, which controls in addition to open source workhorse 
JAVA, MySQL, OpenOffice, and Netbeans (all of which complete with proprietary 
products from Oracle).  I haven't heard anything quotable recently from Larry 
Ellison, but he has in the pass been an ardent opponent of OSS and I find it 
hard to imagine him not taking advantage of this opportunity to place 
roadblocks and/or booby traps in the way of the OSS community.

  


Re: [CODE4LIB] can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?

2009-04-20 Thread Barnett, Jeffrey
IBM has an RDBMS horse in the OSS race (Called Derby).  It doesn't seem to 
have much of a following.  I imagine they must have forseen the possiblity of 
an Oracle takeover when they broke off their own acquisition proposal earlier 
this (?last) year.  I agree there is probably more to come.  That's why I posed 
the question.
Netbeans is probably in the weakest position.  It already has strong OSS 
competition from Eclipse (originally IBM sponsored), and IBM, Oracle, and uSoft 
all have in-house IDEs.

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas 
Dowling
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:42 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?

On 04/20/2009 10:13 AM, Barnett, Jeffrey wrote:
 I know the answer is yes, but does anyone care to speculate on the
 impact of Oracle's takeover of Sun, which controls in addition to open
 source workhorse JAVA, MySQL, OpenOffice, and Netbeans (all of which
 complete with proprietary products from Oracle).


Meh.  I don't know the intricacies of Java or NetBeans, but with MySQL, a
non-nurturing environment at Ora-Sun will either lead to a fork handled by
someone more invested in it, or a gradual move to PostgreSQL; if that spurs
some development to simplify psql, it's arguably a win all around.

OO.o development doesn't seem to be in the fast lane as it is, so I'm not sure
it could suffer much if Sun bails on it.  And isn't IBM contributing at least
as much as Sun these days?  Maybe it needs something like this to shake it up.


-- 
Thomas Dowling
tdowl...@ohiolink.edu


[CODE4LIB] Poor Apache Derby (was: can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?)

2009-04-20 Thread Dan Scott
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 11:29 -0400, Barnett, Jeffrey wrote:
 IBM has an RDBMS horse in the OSS race (Called Derby).  It doesn't seem to 
 have much of a following.  

Heh. So, IBM bought Informix, contributed an overhauled version of
Informix Cloudscape to Apache as Apache Derby, and then mostly got out
of the Apache Derby business a few years later when they stopped
offering paid support for IBM Cloudscape (the IBM-branded redistribution
of Apache Derby), although I believe it is still used as a persistence
layer by many IBM products. 

At the same time that IBM was getting out of the paid support business
for Apache Derby, Sun was busy investing heavily in it (in terms of
developers) and wound up embedding it in Java SE Development Kit under
the branded name JavaDB. 

The Derby mailing list still generates a fair bit of traffic. It's
certainly not as high-profile as, say, MySQL or PostgreSQL. 

In the context of the Oracle-Sun and MySQL/OpenOffice/yada yada parent
thread, Derby demonstrates that a software project can 1) go from
proprietary to open source, 2) be contributed to by (in some ways)
direct competitors, and once it is open source 3) lose commercial
support from one company but gain it from another, and 4) survive for
whoever depends on it and wants to continue using it regardless of what
commercial entities may do.

I hear there's at least one good book about Apache Derby out there,
although it's rather dated now... 


Re: [CODE4LIB] Poor Apache Derby

2009-04-20 Thread Jonathan Rochkind

Dan Scott wrote:


In the context of the Oracle-Sun and MySQL/OpenOffice/yada yada parent
thread, Derby demonstrates that a software project can 1) go from
proprietary to open source, 2) be contributed to by (in some ways)
direct competitors, and once it is open source 3) lose commercial
support from one company but gain it from another, and 4) survive for
whoever depends on it and wants to continue using it regardless of what
commercial entities may do.

  


It also shows the dangers of this to the user community though, since by 
your description Informix ended up forked into Derby and JavaDB, with 
the commercial support being for JavaDB, but the open source development 
taking place in Derby, and the open source development being kind of 
stunted too.  A situation which is not great for the users.


Still, it could have been worse. To make it better would take (or have 
taken) concerted effort from the user community -- which probably would 
have happened if Postgres and MySQL didn't exist, making an open source 
Derby more important for more people.


Jonathan


Re: [CODE4LIB] can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?

2009-04-20 Thread Cloutman, David
I don't know if there is anything that can be done about it, but if
anyone is interested, I've set up a Facebook group opposing the merger. 

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=91044005659



---
David Cloutman dclout...@co.marin.ca.us
Electronic Services Librarian
Marin County Free Library 

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
Barnett, Jeffrey
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 7:13 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?


I know the answer is yes, but does anyone care to speculate on the
impact of Oracle's takeover of Sun, which controls in addition to open
source workhorse JAVA, MySQL, OpenOffice, and Netbeans (all of which
complete with proprietary products from Oracle).  I haven't heard
anything quotable recently from Larry Ellison, but he has in the pass
been an ardent opponent of OSS and I find it hard to imagine him not
taking advantage of this opportunity to place roadblocks and/or booby
traps in the way of the OSS community.

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Re: [CODE4LIB] can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?

2009-04-20 Thread Joe Hourcle

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Cloutman, David wrote:


I don't know if there is anything that can be done about it, but if
anyone is interested, I've set up a Facebook group opposing the merger.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=91044005659



I doubt that joining a facebook group is going to actually do anything in 
the matter.  If you actually have specific reasons for not wanting the 
merger, I'm guessing that there's someone to write to at the FTC or DOJ or 
whatever other government agencies have to approve these mergers.


If they decide that the merger would harm competition, they can (must?) 
reject the merger.


-
Joe Hourcle
Principal Software Engineer
Solar Data Analysis Center
Goddard Space Flight Center

[insert disclaimer here about these being personal comments, and not those 
of my company or place of work]


Re: [CODE4LIB] Poor Apache Derby (was: can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?)

2009-04-20 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Dan Scott dsc...@laurentian.ca wrote:
 I hear there's at least one good book about Apache Derby out there,
 although it's rather dated now...

I have a copy.  Signed by one of the authors!

-Ross.


[CODE4LIB] Job Announcement: Systems Administrator at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Library (Greenbelt, MD)

2009-04-20 Thread Patty De Anda
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RESPONSIBILITIES


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 *   Maintain and develop system documentation, policies, and procedures that 
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 *   Function as an Alternate Computer Security Officer: identify and take 
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 *   Provide initial troubleshooting and support for desktops and network and 
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[CODE4LIB] Position Available: Director of Information Technology, Rutgers University Libraries

2009-04-20 Thread Grace Agnew
Apologies for cross-posting

DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY

RUTGERS UNIVERSITY LIBRARIES, NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ

Reports to the Associate University Librarian for Digital Library Systems.
Provides vision, leadership, and management of the Integrated Information
Systems Department, a 14-person department. Is responsible for policies,
procedures, selection, installation, and management of integrated
information systems hardware and software, including integrated library
system software, Windows networking, digital mass storage, servers,
workstations, and peripherals for a three-campus library system. Leads
cross-departmental teams in specifying, selecting, purchasing, and
installing hardware and software to meet the diverse research and
education needs of the libraries' users-the faculty and staff of Rutgers
University. Manages the libraries' main computer facility, housing
systemwide servers and digital mass storage system. Has primary
responsibility for the design, implementation, and management of the
libraries' Drupal-enabled website, the SirsiDynix Integrated Library
System, and the production Fedora repository system. Proposes policy and
sets procedures for information management, including security and
maintenance of the libraries' digital information resources. Leads the web
services team and will provide leadership in a large-scale redesign of the
website to reflect the user experience. Provides leadership to the
libraries' preparations for migration to an open library management system
in the next two years.
 Job Requirements
Requires a bachelor's degree in computer science, information management,
or a related field, or an equivalent combination of education and/or
experience; plus a minimum of eight years relevant experience, at least
five of which must be in a managerial or supervisory capacity in a digital
library, library systems, or higher education IT environment. Requires
demonstrable expertise in web services technologies (XML, WSDL, Web 2.0,
content management systems); demonstrable expertise in storage
architectures and management, authentication and authorization strategies,
and information security; and demonstrable expertise in software
development methodologies and processes, as well as networking
architecture and management. Also requires project management skills,
ability to make desired progress on multiple projects simultaneously,
excellent written and oral communication skills, and leadership abilities.
Requires ability to represent the libraries in professional conferences
and university IT committees. Prefer master's degree and experience
managing integrated library systems. Good working knowledge of SOA
(service oriented architecture) and experience with grant funded digital
library projects preferred.