On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Jakob Voss jakob.v...@gbv.de wrote:
If you want to put bibliographic metadata
into twitter annotations (good idea) you first need to clarify the basic
purpose of embedding this information. I see two of them:
I. Identification: To identify other tweets and
Hi
it's funny how quickly you vote against BibTeX, but at least it is a
format that is frequently used in the wild to create citations. If you
call BibTeX undocumented and garbage then how do you call MARC which is
far more difficult to make use of?
My assumption was that there is a
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Jakob Voss jakob.v...@gbv.de wrote:
P.S: An example of a CSL record from the JavaScript client:
{
title: True Crime Radio and Listener Disenchantment with Network
Broadcasting, 1935-1946,
author: [ {
family: Razlogova,
given: Elena
} ],
We've had problems with RIS on a recent project. Although there is a
specification (http://www.refman.com/support/risformat_intro.asp), it is (I
feel) lacking enough rigour to ever be implemented consistently. The most
common issue in the wild that I've seen is use of different tags for the
same
Ed Summers wrote:
II. Description: To nicely show which publication someone refers to.
I think this is right. I wonder, would you consider a potential use
case for Description to also provide machine readable data for a
resource when a standard identifier is not known?
There are lookup
I was also just working on DOI with RIS.
It looks like both Endnote and Refworks recognize 'DO' for DOIs. But
apparently Zotero does not. If Zotero supported it, I'd say we'd have a de
facto standard on our hands.
In fact, I couldn't figure out how to pass a DOI to Zotero using RIS. Or, at
Unfortunately RefWorks only imports DO - not exports! We now recommend using
RefWorks XML when exporting (for our project) - which is fine, but not
publicly documented as far as I know :(
Zotero recommend using BibTex for importing from RefWorks I think
Owen
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:05 PM,
- there is a JavaScript CSL-Processor. JavaScript is kind of a punishment but
it is the natural environment for the Web 2.0 Mashup crowd that is going to
implement applications that use Twitter annotations
A quick word of caution here; we got excited about citeproc-js until learning
that it
I¹m looking for some background information on Microsoft¹s Zentity (their
digital repository software). If anyone has first-hand experience working
with it, or if you know of institutions that have implemented it, please
contact me.
Thanks,
Andy Ashton
Senior Research Programmer
Center for
Andy,
It is a highly extensible platform, based on .NET and windows. It is also
open source! We did install it and have a play around with it. But not as
much as we would have liked, primarily because of skillset and resource
issues here.
Microsoft have come late into the repository space,
Jakob Voss wrote:
I. Identifiy publication = this can *only* be done seriously with
identifiers like ISBN, DOI, OCLCNum, LCCN etc.
Ah, but for better or for worse, that's not the world we live in. We
have LOTS of publications that either lack such identifiers altogether,
or where
Jakob Voss wrote:
There are lookup services to get a standard identifier when only some
bibliographic data is known - mainly OpenURL.
A standard identifier is not always _available_ -- even if you have
access to a service to look up standard identifiers ( a not neccesarily
realistic
Zentity is entirely consistent with their market strategy. It would be
defeatist of them to take such an attitude. Why would they write software
for a non-microsoft platform?
They have made some good software, which should be useful and is in a good
position to leverge the functionality of other
On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:25 AM, David Kane wrote:
Why would they write software
for a non-microsoft platform?
I'll just point out that other OS vendors (Apple, Sun, Ubuntu, etc.) write
software for other platforms.
-Esme
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So what?
On 28 April 2010 15:37, Cowles, Esme escow...@ucsd.edu wrote:
On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:25 AM, David Kane wrote:
Why would they write software
for a non-microsoft platform?
I'll just point out that other OS vendors (Apple, Sun, Ubuntu, etc.) write
software for other platforms.
http://www.upei.ca/humanres/44E10
Date of Posting: Apr 23 2010
ROBERTSON LIBRARY / OFFICE OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
ISLANDORA PROJECT / REPOSITORY MANAGER (LIBRARY)
FULL-TIME TEMPORARY TERM POSITION
Competition Number: 44E10
The Robertson Library is seeking applications for a qualified
Has anyone actually gotten up a _server-side_ process that uses CSL to
produce formatted citations? Using the citeproc-js with a certain
custom compiled js interpreter, or anything else?
This is what I'm interested in -- I'm not concerned with making it run
in a browser, so custom compiled
David is right that Microsoft would never develop for multiple platforms
because that would undermine their business model, which is of course, to
duplicate efforts and reject international standards (or make Microsoft the
standard for everything). Fortunately, Microsoft is losing its grip on
Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
Jakob Voss wrote:
I. Identifiy publication = this can *only* be done seriously with
identifiers like ISBN, DOI, OCLCNum, LCCN etc.
Ah, but for better or for worse, that's not the world we live in. We
have LOTS of publications that either lack such identifiers
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Houghton,Andrew hough...@oclc.org wrote:
If its open source, I assume that it could be adapted to run under Mono and
then you could run it on Linux, Macs, etc. It may even run under Mono, don't
know, haven't played with it.
Well, it requires SQLServer, so
Jakob Voss wrote:
Call me pedantic but if you do not have an identifier than there is no
hope to identity the publication by means of metadata. You only
*describe* it with metadata and use additional heuristics (mostly search
engines) to hopefully identify the publication based on the
Well... it kind of requires SQL Server. The project page says that it uses
the Entity Framework and Link, and that means you can use MySQL or Oracle since
there is an ADO.NET adapter for them. Microsoft has a plugable data layer that
anyone can write an adapter for.
Andy.
-Original
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems to me that the major flaw of the software is that it isn't
cross-platform, which comes as no surprise. But I feel Microsoft didn't do
their market research. While the financial and business sectors are heavily
Ross Singer wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems to me that the major flaw of the software is that it isn't
cross-platform, which comes as no surprise. But I feel Microsoft didn't do
their market research. While the financial and business
Microsoft certainly has developed for other platforms in the past, but they've
greatly reduced that activity.
Keep in mind that one of the key aspects of Zentity is its integration with
Microsoft desktop products. If the goal is to get faculty to deposit their own
content -- simplifying their
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Hi all,
I'm digging into earlier threads on Code4Lib and NGC4lib and trying to get some
concrete examples around the DCTERMS element set — maybe I haven't been a
subscriber for long enough.
What I'm looking for in particular are things I can work with *in
code/implementation*, most notably:
At Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:11:39 +0100,
David Kane wrote:
Andy,
It is a highly extensible platform, based on .NET and windows. It is also
open source!
[…]
Here is the license:
I need to move the server that hosts the code4lib.org website into another rack
to make room for some other equipment, when is a good time to do this?
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Please excuse the cross-postings:
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electronic
Late February or so would be ideal.
-Mike
On Apr 28, 2010 3:15 PM, Ryan Ordway rord...@oregonstate.edu wrote:
I need to move the server that hosts the code4lib.org website into another
rack to make room for some other equipment, when is a good time to do this?
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Ryan Ordway
Eh, just do it when you've got to do it, says me. Just let us know in
advance when you're scheduling to do it, and how long you think the
outage will be, and maybe remind us what services are effected if you
know either!
Please don't wake up at 4am for your unpaid gig for us, we've got to do
I vote for Christmas morning.
Seriously, whenever is good for you is fine, just let the list know a
little in advanced.
Edward
Michael J. Giarlo wrote:
Late February or so would be ideal.
-Mike
On Apr 28, 2010 3:15 PM, Ryan Ordway rord...@oregonstate.edu wrote:
I need to move the server
Alternatively, just do it anytime and suggest a temporary network issue that
you don't have time to investigate probably was to blame if anyone
whines
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Edward M. Corrado ecorr...@ecorrado.uswrote:
I vote for Christmas morning.
I second Kyle's suggestion.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.comwrote:
Alternatively, just do it anytime and suggest a temporary network issue
that
you don't have time to investigate probably was to blame if anyone
whines
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:41
I mean, really, if the folks at RefWorks, EndNote, Papers, Zotero and LibX
don't have crash programs underway to integrate Twitter clients into their
software to send and receive reference metadata payloads they can use in the
Twitter annotation field, they really ought to hire me to come and
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Ryan Ordway wrote:
I need to move the server that hosts the code4lib.org website into another rack
to make room for some other equipment, when is a good time to do this?
You power down machines when moving them?
Oh, sure, do it the easy way.
(After waiting 2 months for
With redundant power supplies and trunked network interfaces I could do it with
zero downtime. But I'm lazy. :)
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