[CODE4LIB] Call for 2007 ALA Poster Session Applications

2006-11-29 Thread Jody Condit Fagan
Dear members of the USA and International Library Community, We want you to show the rest of the national and international library community your best ideas! Applications for presenting poster sessions at the 2007 ALA Annual Conference are now being accepted. An application form is available on

Re: [CODE4LIB] MARCXML v MARC with Lucene

2006-11-29 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On 11/29/06, Andrew Nagy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So ... while we are on this topic. You wouldn't want to index marcxml records in lucene, you would use marc21, right? Why deal with the overhead of xml if it is not necessary. We have to format our data no matter what for to best fit our sto

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib lucene pre-conference

2006-11-29 Thread Andrew Nagy
For an interesting read: XQuery Processing with Relevance Ranking Leonidas Fegaras http://www.springerlink.com/content/em728eqn888nuer4/

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib lucene pre-conference

2006-11-29 Thread Art Rhyno
OK, my last reply to a reply today, I swear, for this list at least :-) >> * the indexer allows control of how the data is normalized > Is this the indexers job? I say not. I probably should have said that "the indexer does not preclude special normalization", and for that matter, I probably sho

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib lucene pre-conference

2006-11-29 Thread Andrew Nagy
Kevin S. Clarke wrote: Fwiw Andrew, I'd suggest you are not seeing the "true spirit of your NXDB." Try to put MARC into a RDBMS and you are going to run into the same problem. You have to index intelligently or reorganize the data (which is the default when you put XML into a RDBMS anyway). P

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib lucene pre-conference

2006-11-29 Thread Binkley, Peter
As we move towards experimenting with a Solr-based opac I'm hoping to persuade everyone involved that MODS is sufficient to drive the search interface. Let MARC abide in the ILS, and become a mere spirit of malice that gnaws itself in the shadows, but cannot again grow or take shape. Peter -O

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib lucene pre-conference

2006-11-29 Thread Art Rhyno
>For all you Java savvy folks out there, how about "standards" like >J2EE that make it easy to move an application from one vendors app. >server to another. Works for the simplest of applications, but all >vendors have their own specific custom deployment descriptors too. One thing I really like

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib lucene pre-conference

2006-11-29 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
I think this is a data structure problem... MARC is well structured for compact transmission (or was at one point) but not so much for data (re)use (in my opinion). One solution, as Erik has suggested, is to parse the data and build intelligible indices. Another, as Andrew suggests (and which I

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib lucene pre-conference

2006-11-29 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Nov 29, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Art Rhyno wrote: I am so behind in e-mail that I might be treading on ground that is worn out on this, but I would add to Eric's list that I don't care about the indexer if: Here's how Lucene/Solr fares on these points: * the indexer has an open and configurable

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib lucene pre-conference

2006-11-29 Thread Andrew Nagy
Clay Redding wrote: Hi Andrew (or anyone else that cares to answer), I've missed out on hearing about incompatabilites between MARCXML and NXDBs. Can you explain? Is this just eXist and Sleepycat, or are there others? I seem to recall putting a few records in X-Hive with no problems, but I

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib lucene pre-conference

2006-11-29 Thread Art Rhyno
> I don't care a whole lot whether I use this indexer, that indexer, or > the other indexer as long as I can make sure I have an SRU, OpenURL, > Z39.50, etc. interface to the index. This will always allow me to > swap out the an older indexer for a new one as they become available. I am so behind

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib lucene pre-conference

2006-11-29 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
Thom Hickey wrote: Ralph LeVan here at OCLC has worked on an SRU interface to Lucene. The combined indexer/SRU approach is the tack I've been taking regarding search too. I don't care a whole lot whether I use this indexer, that indexer, or the other indexer as long as I can make sure I have