Re: [CODE4LIB] libxess

2007-05-09 Thread Karen Tschanz
Impressive sample. kst Godmar Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/8/2007 5:57 PM On 5/8/07, Karen Tschanz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Godmar: I would be interested in receiving links from libraries that has implemented this, so that I could see the results. Thanks for your help! Given that what I

[CODE4LIB] Server logs as tag clouds

2007-05-09 Thread Tom Keays
O'Reilly has a nifty feature that displays the top 20 search terms on their various sites using terms that someone typed into a search engine (e.g., Google) and then followed a resulting link. (They're also distrubuting these tags as JSON, which is a nice idea.)

Re: [CODE4LIB] Server logs as tag clouds

2007-05-09 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Wed, 9 May 2007, Tom Keays wrote: Still, it is worth asking: Has anyone made a stab at this -- ie, publically exposing server logs? Are there code examples (any real-world, generalizable examples would be welcome). Sorry for cross-posting this. I've done it in the past -- typically using

Re: [CODE4LIB] more metadata from xISBN

2007-05-09 Thread William Denton
On 8 May 2007, Eric Hellman wrote: xISBN is free for non-commercial, low volume use. The xISBN web site clarifies this as meaning = 500 queries per day for non-commercial purposes. Over 500 queries in a day for non-commercial use, or any number of queries for commercial use, requires paying:

Re: [CODE4LIB] more metadata from xISBN

2007-05-09 Thread Godmar Back
Interesting. Thom Hickey commented a while ago about LibX's use of xISBN (*): I suspect that eventually the LibX xISBN support will become both less visible and more automatic. We were indeed planning on making it more automatic. For instance, a user visiting a vendor's page such as amazon

Re: [CODE4LIB] more metadata from xISBN

2007-05-09 Thread Nathan Vack
On May 9, 2007, at 11:56 AM, William Denton wrote: On 8 May 2007, Eric Hellman wrote: xISBN is free for non-commercial, low volume use. A library would pay $3,000 USD a year to be able to do 10,000 queries a day. That's a lot of queries, but I could imagine a big academic library doing a

Re: [CODE4LIB] more metadata from xISBN

2007-05-09 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Nathan Vack wrote: Also... did I somehow miss the legislation in which factual information (like, everything contained within xISBN) became copyrightable? License agreements can restrict just about anything the agreement wants to. If it's an an agreement freely entered into, you can agree to a

Re: [CODE4LIB] more metadata from xISBN

2007-05-09 Thread Eric Hellman
As long as LibX is free and not being used as a way to drive Amazon revenue, I don't see how it could be considered to be commercial. We've studied our logs pretty carefully. Most of the sites that have exceeded the limit we set were commercial sites doing bulk harvest. You can track the xISBN

Re: [CODE4LIB] more metadata from xISBN

2007-05-09 Thread Godmar Back
On 5/9/07, Eric Hellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as LibX is free and not being used as a way to drive Amazon revenue, I don't see how it could be considered to be commercial. Probably a way to drive Amazon revenue down, considering that we offer the alternative to borrow the book

Re: [CODE4LIB] more metadata from xISBN

2007-05-09 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Yeah, that's a good point, Eric. I am, however, worried that I can't do what I want to do without breaking 500 querries a day, and my institution is not going to be willing to pay for it. So I'm interested in exploring other opportunities. (Does Umlaut really not exceed 500 querries a day, for

Re: [CODE4LIB] more metadata from xISBN

2007-05-09 Thread Eric Hellman
At 4:41 PM -0400 5/9/07, Godmar Back wrote: On 5/9/07, Eric Hellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've studied our logs pretty carefully. Most of the sites that have exceeded the limit we set were commercial sites doing bulk harvest. You can track the xISBN use by LibX by getting an affiliate id.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Z39.50 for III Database?

2007-05-09 Thread Birkin James Diana
Godmar, ... Is this code available under a license? ... Not yet. A third of me wishes I'd never seen Michael Doran's excellent code4lib2007 presentation and could just blindly release stuff open- source (for those not there, amongst great info, he cautioned against claiming to release stuff

Re: [CODE4LIB] more metadata from xISBN

2007-05-09 Thread Ross Singer
On 5/9/07, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am, however, worried that I can't do what I want to do without breaking 500 querries a day, and my institution is not going to be willing to pay for it. So I'm interested in exploring other opportunities. (Does Umlaut really not exceed 500