[CODE4LIB] RepoCamp (July 25th, Washington DC)

2008-06-24 Thread Ed Summers
You are hereby invited to RepoCamp in Washington DC on July 25th. http://barcamp.pbwiki.com/RepoCamp RepoCamp is a one-day free and open event where folks who are interested in managing and creating digital repository software and their contents can gather and share ideas, innovations, trials

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Ross Singer
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ross Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theoretically you should be able to also pass the argument record_type=dc or record_type=marc to give you dublin core or marc21, but there seems to be a bug there. I'll fix that today. Bah, this actually did work, I just

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Godmar Back
[ this discussion may be a bit too detailed for the general readership of code4lib; readers not interested in the upcoming WC search API may wish to skip... ] Roy, Atom/RSS are simply the container formats used to return multiple items of some kind --- I'm curious about what those items contain.

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Washburn,Bruce
Godmar, I'm one of the developers working on the WorldCat API. My take is that the API is evolving and adapting as we learn more about how it's expected to be used. We haven't precluded the addition of more record metadata to OpenSearch responses; we opted not to implement it until we had more

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
In general, is there a reason to have different metadata formats from SRU vs OpenSearch? Is there a way to just have the same metadata formats available for each? Or are the demands of each too different to just use the same underlying infrastructure, such that it really does take more work to

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Godmar Back
I too find this decision intriguing, and I'm wondering about its wider implications on the use of RSS/Atom as a container format inside and outside the context of OpenSearch as it relates to library systems. I note that an OpenSearch description does not allow you to specify type of the items

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Ross Singer
Actually, regarding this very point... One of the outcomes of Jangle is that I'd like to create a registry (like, say, a SKOS vocabulary) that defines an identifier for an agreed upon record format. You point out that conneg doesn't work for Atom or RSS payloads, but it wouldn't work, anyway.

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread Hahn, Harvey
Ed Summers wrote: |As for Karen's question about the Internet Archive: it totally makes |sense to host the data up there. But, I had to sign a scary license |agreement from the UIUC Archives, which *almost* stopped me from even |releasing http://catalog.sanfordberman.org ... Madeline can say for

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread Ed Summers
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Hahn, Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same experience here. I responded directly to Karen: See http://catalog.sanfordberman.org/ -- it refers to licensing from the Univ of Illinois Archives. When the data first became available a number of years ago, I

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread Ross Singer
I'm not sure this addressing the criteria of the licensing. How would you stop commercial purposes? Say I work for a UK-based vendor that starts with a T (as hard as that may seem) and I devise a script (or, even more crazily, have root access to the server to the server that the Berman catalog

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread md
Security measures can be set in place to prevent the scenario you describe. Tagging systems (or pop culture cataloging) such as those used by Amazon.com were consciously or unconsciously inspired by Berman's work, but although they are dynamic and current, they are simplisitic and

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Mike Rylander
Wow, I'm coming into this thread late ... To answer Godmar up-thread, Evergreen's OpenSearch service returns data in more than 15 formats, including MARCXML and MODS. It was actually the first ILS to do so (with the exception of Ross's Voyager add-on), and also the first ILS to have an unAPI