Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

Ed Summers wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: would it. BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the child of the is empty. Do they try to read empty text? And if a COinS is processed, we fix up the title so tooltips show

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Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Ross Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the >> child of the is empty. Do they try to read empty text? And if >> a COinS is

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the > child of the is empty. Do they try to read empty text? And if > a COinS is processed, we fix up the title so tooltips show nicely. Thinking about this

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: would it. > BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the > child of the is empty. Do they try to read empty text? And if > a COinS is processed, we fix up the title so tooltips show nicely. Yeah, if

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

Oops, good point, display:none might cause problems for COinS using user-agents that count on inserting content into the span and having it be visible. Perhaps user-agents should be changed to change the style, removing display:none if it's there, maybe that should be reccommended best practi

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

Ah, thanks Godmar and Thomas. The empty span is probably the key. I don't always use empty spans for COinS. For instance, the Code4Lib Journal, we put a link inside the span that takes you to a page that says "If you had LibX installed, you'd get useful functionality here instead of this link."

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

My Firefox3 does, and my IE7 does too. That's mysterious that yours doesn't. Jonathan Ross Singer wrote: Wait, has there actually been confirmation of this behavior? What browser displays the "title" for a span? I haven't run across this. -Ross. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Jonathan Roc

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Not that I know of. >> >> You can say display:none, but that'll probably hide it from LibX etc too. > > No, why would it. I agree with Godmar --

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

Right, one note on that: http://ocoins.info/#id3205609416 What I was more referring to was this behavior occurring w/r/t to COinS/unAPI. 1) Is this really happening? 2) Wouldn't this be an implementation issue? -Ross. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Thomas Dowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

Actually [EMAIL PROTECTED] speech. :-) "CSS 2.1 reserves the 'speech' media type (see chapter 7, "Media types"), but does not yet define which properties do or do not apply to it...The type 'aural' is now deprecated." I strongly suspect the current genera

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:31 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is needed is a CSS @media for screen readers, like one exists for > 'print'. For CSS3, the working group feels that screen readers should combine screen and speech media type

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

Actually... @media aural :-) http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/media.html#media-types But is it supported well enough? On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not that I know of. > > You can say display:none, but that'll probably hide it from LibX etc too. > > What

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not that I know of. > > You can say display:none, but that'll probably hide it from LibX etc too. No, why would it. BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the child of the is empty. Do they t

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

On 12/05/2008 10:45 AM, Ross Singer wrote: > Wait, has there actually been confirmation of this behavior? What > browser displays the "title" for a span? I haven't run across this. > If you tag things as "Some Text", most browsers will display the title as a tooltip over "Some Text". Which is

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

On Dec 4, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Tom Habing wrote: http://www.dlfaquifer.org/unapi " /> Yes, forgot to mention this piece. http://ethicshare.org/unapi " />

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

Wait, has there actually been confirmation of this behavior? What browser displays the "title" for a span? I haven't run across this. -Ross. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I had recently noticed indepedently, been unhappy with the way a COin