Re: [CODE4LIB] AquaBrowser Libraries Group

2009-10-26 Thread Joe Atzberger
I'm fairly confident there is not, just that the new list intends to (self-)
select just licensed users.
--Joe

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Cloutman, David
dclout...@co.marin.ca.uswrote:

 Interesting. Our catalog consortium just bought Aquabrowser. Is there
 some sort of NDA that you know of that would limit the discussion to
 private forums? I hadn't heard of such a thing, but then maybe no one
 thought to tell me.



 ---
 David Cloutman dclout...@co.marin.ca.us
 Electronic Services Librarian
 Marin County Free Library

 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
 Gabriel Farrell
 Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:02 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] AquaBrowser Libraries Group


 While the Interesting difference... bit may be read as snarky, I
 appreciated Jeffrey's post for pointing out that most discussions about
 AquaBrowser can't take place on this list due to its lack of membership
 restrictions.


 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45:24AM -0400, Edward M. Corrado wrote:
  I don't see this as an interesting difference at all. Almost all
  [larger] vendor-supplied products in the library world have their
  own discussion lists that are limited to people that use/license
  their products. We even see this with Open Source products such as
  Koha. Although I do not use AquaBrowser, unlike almost all other
  library specific-software of this magnitude I understand that
  AquaBrowser does not have a user group (formal or informal). There
  currently is very few ways (no way?) for users of this product to
  converse with each other and share ideas.
 
  There are numerous reasons for wanting to share information on a
  closed list that can range from not wanting to spam a larger
  community with a how do activate a widget in product A to asking
  questions/sharing information that for whatever reason you don't
  want to or can't share with the whole world (e.g. non-disclosure
  agreements, public relations concerns, privacy concerns, not wanting
  your name in open archives attached to something, etc.).  In fact,
  in some cases you may not even want the vendor on the list the way
  some Voyager systems administrators created a list that excluded
  Endeavor (and now Ex Libris) and non-systems people at Voyager
  sites. This made people feel much more comfortable asking questions
  that maybe they would otherwise be embarrassed or reluctant to ask.
 
  I applaud Kathryn for taking the initiative to organize the
  AquaBrowser community by creating the AquaBrowser Libraries Group.
  From what I understand from people that use the product this is
  something that is overdue for the community.
 
  What the library technology world needs is more people like Kathryn
  that try to build community to help each other with whatever
  software product they are using. Sure, in a perfect world maybe
  everything would be completely Open but that is not reality. People
  that take initiative should be praised. They should not be met with
  snarky comments.
 
  Edward
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
  mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
  Barnett, Jeffrey
  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:05 AM
  To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
  Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] AquaBrowser Libraries Group
 
  Good point Ed, but I think by the phrase Licensed sites only the
  intent of the AquaBrowser discussion _is_ to exclude open source.
  Interesting difference...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
  mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
  Ed Summers
  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:19 PM
  To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
  Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] AquaBrowser Libraries Group
 
  You should also feel free to discuss AquaBrowser on here too ... the
  code4lib discussion isn't limited to opensource software.
 
  //Ed
  - Hide quoted text -
 
  On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Kathryn Frederick
  kfred...@skidmore.edu mailto:kfred...@skidmore.edu wrote:
   Please excuse cross-posting.
  
   I've set up an AquaBrowser Google Group to share tips and post
   questions. If your library uses AquaBrowser, please consider
 joining.
   This group is restricted, email me at kfred...@skidmore.edu
  mailto:kfred...@skidmore.edu and I'll
   send you an invite.
  
   Licensed sites only, please.
  
   Thanks,
   Kathryn



Re: [CODE4LIB] AquaBrowser Libraries Group

2009-10-26 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
But that doesnt' prevent people discussing AquaBrowser in other forums 
as well, does it?


Joe Atzberger wrote:

I'm fairly confident there is not, just that the new list intends to (self-)
select just licensed users.
--Joe

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Cloutman, David
dclout...@co.marin.ca.uswrote:

  

Interesting. Our catalog consortium just bought Aquabrowser. Is there
some sort of NDA that you know of that would limit the discussion to
private forums? I hadn't heard of such a thing, but then maybe no one
thought to tell me.



---
David Cloutman dclout...@co.marin.ca.us
Electronic Services Librarian
Marin County Free Library

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
Gabriel Farrell
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:02 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] AquaBrowser Libraries Group


While the Interesting difference... bit may be read as snarky, I
appreciated Jeffrey's post for pointing out that most discussions about
AquaBrowser can't take place on this list due to its lack of membership
restrictions.


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45:24AM -0400, Edward M. Corrado wrote:


I don't see this as an interesting difference at all. Almost all
[larger] vendor-supplied products in the library world have their
own discussion lists that are limited to people that use/license
their products. We even see this with Open Source products such as
Koha. Although I do not use AquaBrowser, unlike almost all other
library specific-software of this magnitude I understand that
AquaBrowser does not have a user group (formal or informal). There
currently is very few ways (no way?) for users of this product to
converse with each other and share ideas.

There are numerous reasons for wanting to share information on a
closed list that can range from not wanting to spam a larger
community with a how do activate a widget in product A to asking
questions/sharing information that for whatever reason you don't
want to or can't share with the whole world (e.g. non-disclosure
agreements, public relations concerns, privacy concerns, not wanting
your name in open archives attached to something, etc.).  In fact,
in some cases you may not even want the vendor on the list the way
some Voyager systems administrators created a list that excluded
Endeavor (and now Ex Libris) and non-systems people at Voyager
sites. This made people feel much more comfortable asking questions
that maybe they would otherwise be embarrassed or reluctant to ask.

I applaud Kathryn for taking the initiative to organize the
AquaBrowser community by creating the AquaBrowser Libraries Group.
From what I understand from people that use the product this is
something that is overdue for the community.

What the library technology world needs is more people like Kathryn
that try to build community to help each other with whatever
software product they are using. Sure, in a perfect world maybe
everything would be completely Open but that is not reality. People
that take initiative should be praised. They should not be met with
snarky comments.

Edward

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
Barnett, Jeffrey
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:05 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] AquaBrowser Libraries Group

Good point Ed, but I think by the phrase Licensed sites only the
intent of the AquaBrowser discussion _is_ to exclude open source.
Interesting difference...

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
Ed Summers
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:19 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] AquaBrowser Libraries Group

You should also feel free to discuss AquaBrowser on here too ... the
code4lib discussion isn't limited to opensource software.

//Ed
- Hide quoted text -

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Kathryn Frederick
kfred...@skidmore.edu mailto:kfred...@skidmore.edu wrote:
  

Please excuse cross-posting.

I've set up an AquaBrowser Google Group to share tips and post
questions. If your library uses AquaBrowser, please consider


joining.


This group is restricted, email me at kfred...@skidmore.edu


mailto:kfred...@skidmore.edu and I'll
  

send you an invite.

Licensed sites only, please.

Thanks,
Kathryn



Re: [CODE4LIB] alternatives to Digital Archive

2009-10-26 Thread Michael J. Bennett
Ed,

DuraCloud, perhaps at some point in time.  See #5 from 
http://duraspace.org/faq.php

Michael  

=
Michael J. Bennett
Digital Projects Librarian 
Institutional Repository Coordinator
University of Connecticut
Homer Babbidge Library
369 Fairfield Way, U2005-P
Storrs, CT 06269
860-486-5276
860-486-6017 fax
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-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Edward 
Iglesias
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:47 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] alternatives to Digital Archive

Does anyone have any suggestions to OCLC's Digital Archive product?  From
what I can tell it's OCLC, S3 or attched storage.


Edward Iglesias


Re: [CODE4LIB] alternatives to Digital Archive

2009-10-26 Thread stuart yeates
We have a couple of dspace installs (one light and one dark) which we've 
kept deliberately simple and only moderately skinned on the basis that 
the whole dspace / fedora thing is going to take a while to settle down 
but that once it does it's almost certainly going to be worth moving to.


cheers
stuart

Michael J. Bennett wrote:

Ed,

DuraCloud, perhaps at some point in time.  See #5 from 
http://duraspace.org/faq.php

Michael  


=
Michael J. Bennett
Digital Projects Librarian 
Institutional Repository Coordinator
University of Connecticut
Homer Babbidge Library
369 Fairfield Way, U2005-P
Storrs, CT 06269
860-486-5276
860-486-6017 fax
=


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Edward 
Iglesias
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:47 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] alternatives to Digital Archive

Does anyone have any suggestions to OCLC's Digital Archive product?  From
what I can tell it's OCLC, S3 or attched storage.


Edward Iglesias




--
Stuart Yeates
http://www.nzetc.org/   New Zealand Electronic Text Centre
http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/ Institutional Repository