Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals

2009-11-17 Thread David A. Faler
I'd like a basic session as well.  Something for people like me that hear Solr 
is great, but aren't even sure exactly what it is.

Also, is there a conference price, or is it just the hotel room?  I can't find 
anything on the website price wise other than $119/night for the hotel.

Thank you,

David Faler
IT Quality Control and Testing
The Library Corporation


- Declan Fleming dflem...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 Hi - I understand that getting a package up and running can be fairly
 quick, but going over simple (then complex) examples really helps me
 fully understand what's happening.  Remember those perl by Example
 books?  I loved that approach to showing concretely what happens
 every
 step of the way.  It probably seems dead simple once you've climbed
 the
 learning curve, I just haven't had the time committed to do that yet,
 especially in a space with people who could help me.
 
 Yes, it IS all about me.  ;)
 
 D
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf
 Of
 Gabriel Farrell
 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:11 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals
 
 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote:
  If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the
 morning.
  Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running.
  
  Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session.
  
  Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a
 conference
  breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced
 session!
 
 The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if
 the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the
 particulars right off the bat in the morning.  There are only a few
 steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our
 custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be
 helpful.  
 
 You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF
 session.
 I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr.  
 
 
 Gabriel


Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals

2009-11-17 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
David,

There is a registration fee for the conference, but it appears to have
fallen out of the template this year.  It's traditionally hovered
around $120.

-Mike



On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:13, David A. Faler dfa...@tlcdelivers.com wrote:
 I'd like a basic session as well.  Something for people like me that hear 
 Solr is great, but aren't even sure exactly what it is.

 Also, is there a conference price, or is it just the hotel room?  I can't 
 find anything on the website price wise other than $119/night for the hotel.

 Thank you,

 David Faler
 IT Quality Control and Testing
 The Library Corporation


 - Declan Fleming dflem...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 Hi - I understand that getting a package up and running can be fairly
 quick, but going over simple (then complex) examples really helps me
 fully understand what's happening.  Remember those perl by Example
 books?  I loved that approach to showing concretely what happens
 every
 step of the way.  It probably seems dead simple once you've climbed
 the
 learning curve, I just haven't had the time committed to do that yet,
 especially in a space with people who could help me.

 Yes, it IS all about me.  ;)

 D

 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf
 Of
 Gabriel Farrell
 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:11 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals

 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote:
  If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the
 morning.
  Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running.
 
  Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session.
 
  Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a
 conference
  breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced
 session!

 The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if
 the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the
 particulars right off the bat in the morning.  There are only a few
 steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our
 custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be
 helpful.

 You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF
 session.
 I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr.


 Gabriel



Re: [CODE4LIB] Vote for code4lib 2010 presentations!

2009-11-17 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
A quick addendum for talk proposers:

We have 47 proposals and approximately 17 slots.  That means 30 or
more disappointed talk proposers.  But fret not!  The conference will
have ample opportunities to share your ideas in lightning talks,
breakout sessions, and (most importantly) brewpub chats.

-Mike



On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:00, Michael J. Giarlo
leftw...@alumni.rutgers.edu wrote:
 The opportunity to submit a proposal for a 20-minute prepared talk at
 the 2010 Code4Lib Conference in Asheville, NC has now closed. We
 received 47 great proposals in what must surely be our best year ever
 for talk submissions.

 Voting on these proposals is now open to anyone who has registered at
 code4lib.org (accounts are freely available to anyone). Head to the
 voting site as soon as possible to ensure that your username and
 password work as expected.  Enter your code4lib.org.org login to vote;
 should you run into any difficulties authenticating, do not hesitate
 to contact myself leftw...@alumni.rutgers.edu and Ryan Wick
 ryanw...@gmail.com.

 Here is the ballot:

     http://vote.code4lib.org/election/index/13

 To vote, assign any number from 1 to 3 for any talk for which you wish
 to vote; 1 means would somewhat like to see this and 3 means I
 would be disappointed NOT to see this OMGOMGOMG. You may change your
 vote as often as you wish until voting closes.  Vote early, vote
 often really is our motto.

 The vote will remain open through 12:00AM (midnight) Eastern on
 December 1, 2009.  This tends to trip folks up, so just to clarify: I
 am referring to the very minute of 11:59PM Eastern on November 30,
 2009.  Don't expect to vote on 12/1!

 Track voting results by hopping on to the #code4lib IRC channel on the
 Freenode network and typing @talks2010.  Or check it over the web:
 http://vote.code4lib.org/election/results/13

 Thanks to Ross Singer for doing the ballot dance, to Roy Tennant for
 lolcat-herding, and to various individuals from whom this call for
 voting was plagiarized!

 -Mike



[CODE4LIB] Conference: Want to help?

2009-11-17 Thread Jodi Schneider
Want to get involved with the Asheville conference but don't know where to
start?

Several committees could use your help, especially T-shirt and Hospitality
Suite Committees.
Getting involved is really easy--just add your name to the wiki:
http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Committees_sign-up_page

-Jodi


[CODE4LIB] Save the Date! Code4Lib Northwest in Portland, OR on June 7, 2010

2009-11-17 Thread Kyle Banerjee
Code4lib Northwest is returning to  White Stag in Portland on June 7, 2010!

Code4Lib Northwest connects developers, innovators, and problem
solvers so they can share information about projects, trends and
technologies. Most importantly, it seeks to develop a community where
people share information and experience and collaborate on work
towards common goals.

If you weren't able to attend last year or are unfamiliar with the
format, you're in for a treat. Mix it up with some the best library
technologists in the PNW! If you want to find out what people are up
to, this is the place. The format is patterned after code4lib, so
presentations are are either 5 or 20 minutes. By keeping things short,
a wide variety of ideas can be presented even those at early stages of
development.  Interaction is maximized so you get to learn about what
really interests you.

Event Information:

When:  June 7th, 2010
Start: 9 AM
End: 4:00 PM
Where:  White Stag, Portland, Oregon
Cost:  $50 (primarily to cover snacks, refreshments and lunch for the group)
Size:  Facility can accommodate approximately 60 participants.

Registration and proposal details to follow soon!

Questions/Comments:

If you have questions, you can send them to either Terry Reese
(terry.re...@oregonstate.edu), Kyle Banerjee (baner...@uoregon.edu) or
submit them to the pnwcode4lib Google Group.

kyle

-- 
--
Kyle Banerjee
Digital Services Program Manager
Orbis Cascade Alliance
baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.999.9787


[CODE4LIB] Limit EBSCO Search Box Builder by date

2009-11-17 Thread Joel Marchesoni
Hi Everyone,

One feature missing from the EBSCO Search Box Builder is the ability to limit 
by date.  Does anyone know of a way to do this from the search box code?  I 
tried all the values from the results page with no success.

I'm having a hard time finding any information about this online and was hoping 
a fellow coder has figured it out already.

Thanks!

Joel


[CODE4LIB] Assigning DOI for local content

2009-11-17 Thread Ranti Junus
Hi All,

I was asked by somebody from a college @ my institution whether they
should go with assigning DOI for their journal articles:
http://llt.msu.edu/

I can see the advantage of this approach and my first thought is more
about whether they have resources in running their purl server, or
whether they would need to do it through crossref (or any other
agency.) Has anybody had any experience about this?

Moreover, are there other factors that one should consider (pros and
cons) about this? Or, looking at the structure of their content,
whether they ever need DOI? Any ideas and/or suggestions?


Any insights about this is much appreciated.


thanks,
ranti.

-- 
Bulk mail.  Postage paid.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Assigning DOI for local content

2009-11-17 Thread Jonathan Rochkind

So I have no actual experience with this.

But you have to pay for DOI's.  I've never done it, but I don't think 
you neccesarily have to run your own purl server -- CrossRef takes care 
of it.  Of course, if your documents are going to be moving all over the 
place, if you run your own purl server and register your purls with 
CrossRef, then when a document moves, you can update your local purl 
server; otherwise, you can update CrossRef, heh.


It certainly is useful to have DOIs, I agree.  I would suggest they 
should just contact cross-ref and get information on the cost, and what 
their responsibilities are, and then they'll be able to decide.  If the 
'structure of their content' is journal articles, then, sure DOI is 
pretty handy for people wanting to cite or link to those articles.


Jonathan

Ranti Junus wrote:

Hi All,

I was asked by somebody from a college @ my institution whether they
should go with assigning DOI for their journal articles:
http://llt.msu.edu/

I can see the advantage of this approach and my first thought is more
about whether they have resources in running their purl server, or
whether they would need to do it through crossref (or any other
agency.) Has anybody had any experience about this?

Moreover, are there other factors that one should consider (pros and
cons) about this? Or, looking at the structure of their content,
whether they ever need DOI? Any ideas and/or suggestions?


Any insights about this is much appreciated.


thanks,
ranti.

  


Re: [CODE4LIB] Assigning DOI for local content

2009-11-17 Thread Bucknell, Terry
You should be able to find all the information you need about CrossRef fees and 
rules at:

http://www.crossref.org/02publishers/20pub_fees.html

and

http://www.crossref.org/02publishers/59pub_rules.html

Information about the system of registering and maintaining DOIs is at:

http://www.crossref.org/help/

Note that as well as registering DOIs for the articles in LLT, LLT would be 
obliged to link to the articles cited by LLT articles (for cited articles that 
have DOIs too). Looking at the LLT site, it looks like they would have to 
change their 'abstract' pages to 'abstract plus cited refs', or change the way 
that their PDFs are created so that they include DOI links for cited 
references. (Without this the whole system would fail: publishers would expect 
traffic to come to them, but wouldn't have to send traffic elsewhere).

I'd agree that DOIs are in general a Good Thing (and for e-books / e-book 
chapters, and reference work entries as well as e-journal articles). The 
CrossRef fees are deliberately set so as not to exclude single-title 
publishers. Here's an example of a single-title, university-based e-journal in 
the UK that provides DOIs, so it must be a CrossRef member: 
http://www.bioscience.heacademy.ac.uk/journal/.


Terry Bucknell
Electronic Resources Manager
University of Liverpool


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Rochkind
Sent: 17 November 2009 23:20
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Assigning DOI for local content

So I have no actual experience with this.

But you have to pay for DOI's.  I've never done it, but I don't think 
you neccesarily have to run your own purl server -- CrossRef takes care 
of it.  Of course, if your documents are going to be moving all over the 
place, if you run your own purl server and register your purls with 
CrossRef, then when a document moves, you can update your local purl 
server; otherwise, you can update CrossRef, heh.

It certainly is useful to have DOIs, I agree.  I would suggest they 
should just contact cross-ref and get information on the cost, and what 
their responsibilities are, and then they'll be able to decide.  If the 
'structure of their content' is journal articles, then, sure DOI is 
pretty handy for people wanting to cite or link to those articles.

Jonathan

Ranti Junus wrote:
 Hi All,

 I was asked by somebody from a college @ my institution whether they
 should go with assigning DOI for their journal articles:
 http://llt.msu.edu/

 I can see the advantage of this approach and my first thought is more
 about whether they have resources in running their purl server, or
 whether they would need to do it through crossref (or any other
 agency.) Has anybody had any experience about this?

 Moreover, are there other factors that one should consider (pros and
 cons) about this? Or, looking at the structure of their content,
 whether they ever need DOI? Any ideas and/or suggestions?


 Any insights about this is much appreciated.


 thanks,
 ranti.

   


Re: [CODE4LIB] Assigning DOI for local content

2009-11-17 Thread Jonathan Rochkind

Bucknell, Terry wrote:

Note that as well as registering DOIs for the articles in LLT, LLT would be 
obliged to link to the articles cited by LLT articles (for cited articles that 
have DOIs too).


Huh, I didn't know that. I understand the motivation, but investigating 
whether every cited article has a DOI and then making sure to include 
it... is non-trivial labor.


Jonathan


Re: [CODE4LIB] Assigning DOI for local content

2009-11-17 Thread Jodi Schneider
The first question is: what are they trying to accomplish by having DOIs?

Do they have a long-term plan for persistence of their content? Financial
plan?

If they're looking for persistent identifiers, I don't understand (a
priori), why DOI is better, as an identifier scheme, than any other
'persistent identifier scheme' (ARK [1], PURL, Handle, etc[2]). (Though I
really like CrossRef and the things they're doing.)

[1] http://www.cdlib.org/inside/diglib/ark/
[2] http://www.persistent-identifier.de/english/204-examples.php

-Jodi

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Bucknell, Terry 
t.d.buckn...@liverpool.ac.uk wrote:

 You should be able to find all the information you need about CrossRef fees
 and rules at:

 http://www.crossref.org/02publishers/20pub_fees.html

 and

 http://www.crossref.org/02publishers/59pub_rules.html

 Information about the system of registering and maintaining DOIs is at:

 http://www.crossref.org/help/

 Note that as well as registering DOIs for the articles in LLT, LLT would be
 obliged to link to the articles cited by LLT articles (for cited articles
 that have DOIs too). Looking at the LLT site, it looks like they would have
 to change their 'abstract' pages to 'abstract plus cited refs', or change
 the way that their PDFs are created so that they include DOI links for cited
 references. (Without this the whole system would fail: publishers would
 expect traffic to come to them, but wouldn't have to send traffic
 elsewhere).

 I'd agree that DOIs are in general a Good Thing (and for e-books / e-book
 chapters, and reference work entries as well as e-journal articles). The
 CrossRef fees are deliberately set so as not to exclude single-title
 publishers. Here's an example of a single-title, university-based e-journal
 in the UK that provides DOIs, so it must be a CrossRef member:
 http://www.bioscience.heacademy.ac.uk/journal/.


 Terry Bucknell
 Electronic Resources Manager
 University of Liverpool


 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
 Jonathan Rochkind
 Sent: 17 November 2009 23:20
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Assigning DOI for local content

 So I have no actual experience with this.

 But you have to pay for DOI's.  I've never done it, but I don't think
 you neccesarily have to run your own purl server -- CrossRef takes care
 of it.  Of course, if your documents are going to be moving all over the
 place, if you run your own purl server and register your purls with
 CrossRef, then when a document moves, you can update your local purl
 server; otherwise, you can update CrossRef, heh.

 It certainly is useful to have DOIs, I agree.  I would suggest they
 should just contact cross-ref and get information on the cost, and what
 their responsibilities are, and then they'll be able to decide.  If the
 'structure of their content' is journal articles, then, sure DOI is
 pretty handy for people wanting to cite or link to those articles.

 Jonathan

 Ranti Junus wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I was asked by somebody from a college @ my institution whether they
  should go with assigning DOI for their journal articles:
  http://llt.msu.edu/
 
  I can see the advantage of this approach and my first thought is more
  about whether they have resources in running their purl server, or
  whether they would need to do it through crossref (or any other
  agency.) Has anybody had any experience about this?
 
  Moreover, are there other factors that one should consider (pros and
  cons) about this? Or, looking at the structure of their content,
  whether they ever need DOI? Any ideas and/or suggestions?
 
 
  Any insights about this is much appreciated.
 
 
  thanks,
  ranti.
 
 



Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals

2009-11-17 Thread Fleming, Declan
Heh, Declan can't even make Declan do pushups... ;)

D

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
Bess Sadler
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:25 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals

Dear David and Declan,

It sounds like you're both looking for Solr White Belt which I am  
planning to teach. Can't wait to see you there!

So, if we're going with this karate theme, does that mean I can make  
Declan do pushups when he acts out?

See http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2010_Preconference_Proposals  
for the current pre-conf descriptions.

Bess

On 17-Nov-09, at 8:13 AM, David A. Faler wrote:

 I'd like a basic session as well.  Something for people like me that  
 hear Solr is great, but aren't even sure exactly what it is.

 Also, is there a conference price, or is it just the hotel room?  I  
 can't find anything on the website price wise other than $119/night  
 for the hotel.

 Thank you,

 David Faler
 IT Quality Control and Testing
 The Library Corporation


 - Declan Fleming dflem...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 Hi - I understand that getting a package up and running can be fairly
 quick, but going over simple (then complex) examples really helps me
 fully understand what's happening.  Remember those perl by Example
 books?  I loved that approach to showing concretely what happens
 every
 step of the way.  It probably seems dead simple once you've climbed
 the
 learning curve, I just haven't had the time committed to do that yet,
 especially in a space with people who could help me.

 Yes, it IS all about me.  ;)

 D

 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf
 Of
 Gabriel Farrell
 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:11 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals

 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote:
 If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the
 morning.
 Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running.

 Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session.

 Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a
 conference
 breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced
 session!