Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
If you are interested in an open-source Google App Engine Python application that was customized for Western State College's ELibrary and other internal apps; check-out eCataloger at http://code.google.com/p/ecataloger/. I haven't been developing much on this project since I left Western but I would be happy to help out if you have any questions. Western's current E-Library (http://www.western.edu/academics/library/e-library.html) is running on version 1.2. Jeremy Nelson Metadata and Systems Librarian Tutt Library Colorado College -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of ... Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:15 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library. Hello, Some folks in the VuFind library suggested I ask here. We are starting a small library and thinking of using VuFind as our online catalog. As for the ILS we would like something small and simple (evergreen and others seem massive for the small amount of functionality we need), and especially something which is flexible enough to allow us to base our library on book sharing rather than an institutionally owned collection. book sharing will probably happen through creative use of inter-library loan functionality, and so an ILS that has a solid and flexible ILL is necessary. We will probably have less than 1,000 books (perhaps a couple thousand if things really take off) and less than 100 borrowers. Probably about as many book sharers (ie, partner libraries) as borrowers. Does anyone have experience with the ILS which already have drivers for VuFind? I think the list is: * SirsiDynix Horizon * Sirsi Unicorn * Voyager: * VTLS Virtua * Innovative: * DAIA / OCLC PICA: * NewGenLib: If you can, please comment on the suitability of these ILS for our system (low complexity and flexible ILL system). I have considered just writing some administrative scripts in python. It would be a good project and not ridiculously difficult. I would much rather write the whole thing from scratch than try to write a VuFind driver for an ILS not yet supported. Thanks for reading, Elliot
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
On Monday, September 27, 2010 5:15 PM, Elliot ... [offonoffoffon...@gmail.com] wrote: Some folks in the VuFind library suggested I ask here. We are starting a small library and thinking of using VuFind as our online catalog. As for the ILS we would like something small and simple (evergreen and others seem massive for the small amount of functionality we need), and especially something which is flexible enough to allow us to base our library on book sharing rather than an institutionally owned collection. I didn't see Koha on your list (though I have almost no direct experience with it and so can't comment on its suitability for your needs). A discussion on what appears to have been the Vufind-tech mailing list [1] around Friday, March 05, 2010 9:01 AM, indicates some work remained to be done to make Koha and VuFind work together. [1] The original site had trouble coming up on my browser, so I was only able to read via Google's cached version: http://bit.ly/aFZQIU I hope this helps, Bryan Baldus bryan.bal...@quality-books.com eij...@cpan.org http://home.comcast.net/~eijabb/
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
great suggestions, I will sort through all this. the vufind mailing list informed me that the koha driver is broken and it was also not well recomended by people using it, though alot of people not using it said i should try it : ) thanks
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
BTW, I think that we have tried to avoid anonymous participation. Most of us are happy -- perhaps too happy sometimes -- to make our identities known. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:43 AM, ... offonoffoffon...@gmail.com wrote: great suggestions, I will sort through all this. the vufind mailing list informed me that the koha driver is broken and it was also not well recomended by people using it, though alot of people not using it said i should try it : ) thanks -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] III Mobile Catalog
Hi all, I just wanted to invite anyone using or testing MobileCat to join the new google group http://groups.google.com/group/mobilecat so we can help each other out. Best, Anna TriCollege Libraries On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 14:03, Amy desch...@simmons.edu wrote: We are researching possibilities for a mobile version of our III catalog and are wondering what success people have had. Right now our list of possible solutions include: - AirPac from III - does anyone have any feedback on this product? - MobileCat from the Tri-College Libraries (http://code.google.com/p/mobilecat/) - Other options? MobileCat is more attractive than AirPac because it's free, but I can't find much information of others out there who have implemented it successfully. Does anyone have feedback on either of these solutions or does anyone know of another mobile catalog option for III? Any thoughts would be most appreciated. Thanks Amy -- Amy Deschenes Library Assistant, Library Technology Simmons College Library Boston, MA desch...@simmons.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
Others of us have no problem with pseudonymous or anonymous subscriptions to the listserv, I hadn't been aware that there was any general disapproval of this, although of course everyone can have their own opinion. It is however, I agree, nice to develop professional relationships with people on the listserv when you know who they are. Cary Gordon wrote: BTW, I think that we have tried to avoid anonymous participation. Most of us are happy -- perhaps too happy sometimes -- to make our identities known. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:43 AM, ... offonoffoffon...@gmail.com wrote: great suggestions, I will sort through all this. the vufind mailing list informed me that the koha driver is broken and it was also not well recomended by people using it, though alot of people not using it said i should try it : ) thanks
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
If it's worth enough to someone, I expect the co-op or another Koha support provider would be willing to help fix it. Usually the other big problem with things like drivers is getting access to test kit, but I don't know if that's the case with VuFind. Writing a VuFind driver is definitely not a major undertaking if you understand the architecture of the system you are working with... and since Koha is open source, that can only help. The main reason VuFind doesn't have a Koha driver is that (to the best of my knowledge) no Koha library has chosen to implement VuFind yet (and I realize that is a self-perpetuating problem). If any Koha developers are interested in closing this gap, I'm happy to work with them as needed -- I do think it's important for open source discovery layers to support open source ILS's! - Demian
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
What is the upside of not identifying yourself? I can imagine that there are some (many, legions) code4lib users who eschew their employers' institutional views, and feel the need to keep a very low profile. Other than that, I really enjoy the collegial atmosphere and esprit de corps of this group On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: Others of us have no problem with pseudonymous or anonymous subscriptions to the listserv, I hadn't been aware that there was any general disapproval of this, although of course everyone can have their own opinion. It is however, I agree, nice to develop professional relationships with people on the listserv when you know who they are. Cary Gordon wrote: BTW, I think that we have tried to avoid anonymous participation. Most of us are happy -- perhaps too happy sometimes -- to make our identities known. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:43 AM, ... offonoffoffon...@gmail.com wrote: great suggestions, I will sort through all this. the vufind mailing list informed me that the koha driver is broken and it was also not well recomended by people using it, though alot of people not using it said i should try it : ) thanks -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
[CODE4LIB] Library Systems-related jobs in Binghamton NY
Hello Code4Libers, Binghamton University (Binghamton NY) has an opening for a Library Systems Specialist. A Bachelors degree is required, along with a minimum of two years working in an Information Technology environment. This is a professional appointment. Full details can be found at: http://binghamton.interviewexchange.com/jobofferdetails.jsp?JOBID=20864 Also, I was asked by someone from Broome Community College (also located in Binghamton NY) to spread the word about a Systems Librarian position that they have open. This is a 12-month tenure track position at the rank of Assistant Librarian. Details can be found at: http://www.sunybroome.edu/aboutbcc/hr/faculty.php I don't know much about the Broome Community College position, but if you have questions about the Binghamton area, I might be able to help with that. And while I am on the subject of librarian jobs, although maybe not Code4Lib-related Binghamton University has two librarian positions (12-month tenure track position) open. One is for a Metadata/Catalog librarian (Review of applications will begin on October 1, 2010) and the other is for a Subject Librarian for Social Sciences (Review of applications will begin on October 18, 2010). Details on those two positions can be found at http://library.binghamton.edu/about/employment/faculty/index.html - Edward -- Edward M. Corrado Assistant Director for Library Technology Binghamton University Libraries P.O. Box 6012, Binghamton, NY 13902 USA Phone: +1-607-777-4909 | Fax: +1-607-777-4848 ecorr...@binghamton.edu | http://library.binghamton.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
A simple upside is the security of feeling one's information is kept private. In today's digital age, I find many people are technophobic to search engines finding so much information relating back to a single individual. Harmless data or not, many people feel this is a negative big brother-esque situation. By posting anonymously, they may simply be fulfilling the desire to keep private. We may not perceive it as being harmful by any means, but not everyone thinks the same way, and if some small action - such as posting anonymously - makes them feel more secure, I personally see no problem with it. In my eyes, it's like religion - I wouldn't want to force my views on someone else just like I wouldn't want someone forcing their views on me, it feels...uncomfortable. I'm not saying that's what this is - this is simply a discussion, I am only explaining my viewpoint as fully as possible. Brendon Kozlowski Web Administrator Saratoga Springs Public Library 49 Henry Street Saratoga Springs, NY, 12866 [518] 584-7860 x217 Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: Code for Libraries on behalf of Cary Gordon Sent: Tue 9/28/2010 3:57 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library. What is the upside of not identifying yourself? I can imagine that there are some (many, legions) code4lib users who eschew their employers' institutional views, and feel the need to keep a very low profile. Other than that, I really enjoy the collegial atmosphere and esprit de corps of this group On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: Others of us have no problem with pseudonymous or anonymous subscriptions to the listserv, I hadn't been aware that there was any general disapproval of this, although of course everyone can have their own opinion. It is however, I agree, nice to develop professional relationships with people on the listserv when you know who they are. Cary Gordon wrote: BTW, I think that we have tried to avoid anonymous participation. Most of us are happy -- perhaps too happy sometimes -- to make our identities known. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:43 AM, ... offonoffoffon...@gmail.com wrote: great suggestions, I will sort through all this. the vufind mailing list informed me that the koha driver is broken and it was also not well recomended by people using it, though alot of people not using it said i should try it : ) thanks -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com http://chillco.com/ To report this message as spam, offensive, or if you feel you have received this in error, please send e-mail to ab...@sals.edu including the entire contents and subject of the message. It will be reviewed by staff and acted upon appropriately.
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
? sorry to bog down the thread with useless chatter, but with name or pseudonym what's the difference? all names are false. I am Elliot Hallmark. so what? I am 010010. who cares? Do you think I am spam or a saboteur, using 'clever' names to trick you? You'll have more luck discovering details of posting habits searching for the URI rather than the common name, so it is hardly anoynomous. Used to be coders knew eachother by handles and nicknames, and that was plenty professional. Dont remember when that changed (actually listu...@chillco.com is the first one to mention to me that it might have). I almost wrote more but it is hardly interesting enough to do so. My apologies to anyone who feels alienated by different customs/traditions. Identifiers are identifiers.
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
Perhaps you´ll find interesting this proposal. http://www.campi.uns.edu.ar/ Your view of the role of catalogs is shared here. too bad I dont speak spanish. I do intend to learn, but not in time to finish this project. Thanks
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
Here's what I have done some time ago toward a simple flexible ILS for a small library: http://www.avantilibrarysystems.com/microlcs.html Peter Schlumpf www.avantilibrarysystems.com -Original Message- From: ... offonoffoffon...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 28, 2010 9:43 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library. Perhaps you´ll find interesting this proposal. http://www.campi.uns.edu.ar/ Your view of the role of catalogs is shared here. too bad I dont speak spanish. I do intend to learn, but not in time to finish this project. Thanks
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
I think your functional requirement that made this non-trivial was your mention of it needing ILL functionality. There's a definite threshold that has to be crossed before you start seeing something like that integrated into the ILS. If you've got some other way to deal with ILL, I'd suggest OpenBiblio (http://obiblio.sourceforge.net/) as a super simple, super basic ILS. It deals with inventory, borrowers, circulation, etc. but nothing terribly sophisticated. You could use it with VuFind via the Jangle connector: http://jangle.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/connectors/openbiblio/ -Ross. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:15 PM, ... offonoffoffon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Some folks in the VuFind library suggested I ask here. We are starting a small library and thinking of using VuFind as our online catalog. As for the ILS we would like something small and simple (evergreen and others seem massive for the small amount of functionality we need), and especially something which is flexible enough to allow us to base our library on book sharing rather than an institutionally owned collection. book sharing will probably happen through creative use of inter-library loan functionality, and so an ILS that has a solid and flexible ILL is necessary. We will probably have less than 1,000 books (perhaps a couple thousand if things really take off) and less than 100 borrowers. Probably about as many book sharers (ie, partner libraries) as borrowers. Does anyone have experience with the ILS which already have drivers for VuFind? I think the list is: * SirsiDynix Horizon * Sirsi Unicorn * Voyager: * VTLS Virtua * Innovative: * DAIA / OCLC PICA: * NewGenLib: If you can, please comment on the suitability of these ILS for our system (low complexity and flexible ILL system). I have considered just writing some administrative scripts in python. It would be a good project and not ridiculously difficult. I would much rather write the whole thing from scratch than try to write a VuFind driver for an ILS not yet supported. Thanks for reading, Elliot
Re: [CODE4LIB] simple,flexible ILS for a small library.
I think your functional requirement that made this non-trivial was your mention of it needing ILL functionality. Exactly. There's a definite threshold that has to be crossed before you start seeing something like that integrated into the ILS. Perhaps from a usual library perspective, ILL is fancy, but programatically, it isn't any more complicated than a borrower. Except a lender checks a book in first and simultaneously creates a record for it. Openbiblio doesn't seem to handle ILL. I'm not sure I want to use an established ILS but have to try to do ILL stuff outside of it, especially since it is central to the library's purpose. Newgenlib has a page about their library networks. Unfortunately, the search function on their site is broken. (seacrh for book comes up negative). I'll keep looking into it. If even an ILS with support for library hierarchies doesn't work out, then I guess simple home-brew command line administration is the way to go. -elliot
