Re: [CODE4LIB] reading early versions of FrameMaker...
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: > At PARC, we have some digital documents from the early '90's in FrameMaker > version 1 and 2. But we have no versions of FrameMaker suitable for opening > them, and re-rendering them in a more accessible format. I'm wondering if > others have faced this issue in making archives accessible, and if so, what > they did about it? > > Bill > Well, initially I wondered--assumed--the files would be too old to be read, but after Googling, it appears Frame Technologies, and later Adobe, has been extremely good at preserving as much compatibility as possible, though the files if not in an interchange format, can still be finicky to open. Which then makes me wonder, is it the lack of FrameMaker software, itself, or have you encountered errors opening such files? Reminds me of efforts in preserving old video games, we really should try to preserve the ability to run old software too, despite copyright, particularly where vendors don't exist any more. (Unlike Adobe, in this example.) Back to opening old FM files, we have to potentially deal with the change from FrameRoman text encoding to Unicode in versions after 7.2, but this may still be in the realm of possibility. Posts from 2010 on the Adobe forums say: Just today I found a CD-ROM with FrameMaker 3 demo files (for the > Macintosh). > The problem with seemingly missing fonts can be solved by editing the font > mappings in maker.ini. > But the problem with missing characters cannot be solved this way. Just > last week I had a call from someone using very old fonts, which in part do > not follow standard Windows codepage rules. My recommendation: > 1) Open the files with any pre-Unicode version of FrameMaker (all versions > including 7.2). Don’t care about missing fonts. > 2) Make sure your system shows Fonts like Arial CYR in FrameMaker’s font > list. If not, add the Russian keyboard setting (in Control Panels, Regional > Settings) to your machine. > 3) Try to apply Arial CYR to the text. > a) all characters appear fine: lucky you! > b) still missing characters: They have to be corrected. > 4) Open the cleaned files with FrameMaker 9 and you should be all set and > prepared for further work. From: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3048805 Seeing FM3 files opening in FM7 or later versions, made me then wonder if having a copy of FM1 or 2 would really be necessary to open such files. Sure enough, if you get a message saying a file can't be opened with this version of FrameMaker, that usually means it's a newer-version file: FM is usually quite good about backwards compatibility. The message usually > indicates that you've gotten files that are a newer release than the 7.0 > that you are using. You'll need to have the files sent to you in MIF format > or saved with backwards compatibility to FM7 , if they are from FM8. ... > If you you need to know the version that created the FM file, CAREFULLY > open it in a word processor or text editor. The first line will be something > like: . DO NOT SAVE THE FILE. In this case, it indicates > FrameMaker 9.0. From: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440870 Again in 2010, this time on a thread involving errors in opening FMv3 files, someone tried opening a file that failed to open in v5, in v4, but it didn't work in either. Apparently this version also predates a "heroic open" option which may try to bypass errors and read it anyway: Got your files, but unfortunately I've been unable to open them in FM4. When > I try I'm told that they are damaged. I tried using a heroic open, but that > doesn't seem to have existed in FM4 (when I use it I end up with a "H" in > the current document, which indicates that the Esc o H key sequence isn't > defined). > I suppose that it *is* possible that these files are in fact corrupt. When > I open them in a text editor, they have the basic chunks of stuff that you'd > expect, but there could be some extra binary bits at the end that may be > causing the problem. FM4 doesn't have a "SaveAs FM3" option so I can't > compare a "good" file against yours. You can open them in a text editor and > pick out some of the words in plain text, but that's probably not terribly > useful. And later someone else named Frank Stearns chimes in saying: I came late to the conversation, but sorry to say your files are probably > corrupt. I recall opening FM3 files with FM5.5, and I'm pretty sure those opens even > worked with FM7. (Only had a second to look on our main system here just > now; found some 16 year old FM4 files that open fine in 7.2; I know we have > FM2.1 and FM3 files out on optical media somewhere but did not enough time > to go look at the moment). Frame has historically been fairly good about cleanly opening old version > files with newer version FM, even skipping several generations, so that > probably wasn't an issue in your case. The side-topic question I have (given that we're in the middle of trying > find the best
[CODE4LIB] reading early versions of FrameMaker...
At PARC, we have some digital documents from the early '90's in FrameMaker version 1 and 2. But we have no versions of FrameMaker suitable for opening them, and re-rendering them in a more accessible format. I'm wondering if others have faced this issue in making archives accessible, and if so, what they did about it? Bill
Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
I am driving, so I can take any extra beer home with me! However, for airplanes, the plastic zip-lock bags and put in the middle of the suitcase wrapped with clothing has worked for me in the past, but I never had one break, so I am not sure what would happen if I did. The diapers do sound like a good idea though. Edward On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: > There are some among us who aren't even bringing luggage and will > smell like beer all week. > > Perhaps those two facts are related... > > Cary > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Joshua Gomez wrote: >> Do you guys have any tips on transporting your brews? I've seen a bottle of >> tequila that exploded in a friend's suitcase on the way back from Mexico and >> I'd rather not smell like beer all week. >> >> -Josh >> >> > "Mark A. Matienzo" 1/24/2011 9:41 AM >>> >> Do you like really good beer and/or would you possibly be willing to >> bring some in your luggage to Bloomington? >> >> A small group of Code4libbers is self-organizing a Craft Brew Drinkup >> at Code4lib. The general idea is that people bring beer that they love >> or at least think other people should try. We'll find a time to sit >> and taste everyone's selections. You don't have to bring beer to >> attend or participate, but it certainly helps to ensure that we have >> enough to go around. If you're a homebrewer, you're welcome to bring >> your own if you think it will pass our muster. >> >> I have created a signup sheet on the wiki - please post there with >> your name, location, ideas of what you might bring, and potential >> requests for others. >> >> http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Craft_Brew_Drinkup >> >> Mark A. Matienzo >> Digital Archivist, Manuscripts and Archives >> Yale University Library >> > > > > -- > Cary Gordon > The Cherry Hill Company > http://chillco.com >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
There are some among us who aren't even bringing luggage and will smell like beer all week. Perhaps those two facts are related... Cary On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Joshua Gomez wrote: > Do you guys have any tips on transporting your brews? I've seen a bottle of > tequila that exploded in a friend's suitcase on the way back from Mexico and > I'd rather not smell like beer all week. > > -Josh > > "Mark A. Matienzo" 1/24/2011 9:41 AM >>> > Do you like really good beer and/or would you possibly be willing to > bring some in your luggage to Bloomington? > > A small group of Code4libbers is self-organizing a Craft Brew Drinkup > at Code4lib. The general idea is that people bring beer that they love > or at least think other people should try. We'll find a time to sit > and taste everyone's selections. You don't have to bring beer to > attend or participate, but it certainly helps to ensure that we have > enough to go around. If you're a homebrewer, you're welcome to bring > your own if you think it will pass our muster. > > I have created a signup sheet on the wiki - please post there with > your name, location, ideas of what you might bring, and potential > requests for others. > > http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Craft_Brew_Drinkup > > Mark A. Matienzo > Digital Archivist, Manuscripts and Archives > Yale University Library > -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 13:46, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: > Please keep in mind the existence of a mailing list called code4libcon: > That's for conference planning, right, not for anything related to the conference? Not all attendees are on code4libcon. (But I appreciate your evilness, elm!)
Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
Please keep in mind the existence of a mailing list called code4libcon: http://groups.google.com/group/code4libcon -- Eric "The Evil Moderator" Morgan
Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
Another option are these beer diapers: http://goo.gl/AMCPx. I've used them on several trips and they work like a charm. I'm bringing several, so will likely have a couple left over for folks who find a Bloomington beer that they want to take back. Dan -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Junior Tidal Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 10:37 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011 Since we're on the topic, I highly recommend visiting the Bloomington Brewing Company. Their pale ale is excellent from what I remember as an IU SLIS student. Junior Tidal Assistant Professor Web Services and Multimedia Librarian New York City College of Technology, CUNY 300 Jay Street Brooklyn, NY 11210 718.260.5481 http://library.citytech.cuny.edu >>> "Mark A. Matienzo" 1/24/2011 12:30 PM >>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Joshua Gomez wrote: > Do you guys have any tips on transporting your brews? I've seen a bottle of > tequila that exploded in a friend's suitcase on the way back from Mexico and > I'd rather not smell like beer all week. I usually pack 22 ounce bottles of beer in Ziploc freezer bags. Two bottles per bag fit nicely; three can be a little tight but still works. Then I just pile my clothes on and around the bags of bottles. Mark
[CODE4LIB] z39.50 client for ruby 1.9.2?
Is there a z39.50 client for ruby 1.9.2? I've tried ruby-zoom. It works with 1.8, but when I install on 1.9.2 I get errors. Brice Stacey
Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
Since we're on the topic, I highly recommend visiting the Bloomington Brewing Company. Their pale ale is excellent from what I remember as an IU SLIS student. Junior Tidal Assistant Professor Web Services and Multimedia Librarian New York City College of Technology, CUNY 300 Jay Street Brooklyn, NY 11210 718.260.5481 http://library.citytech.cuny.edu >>> "Mark A. Matienzo" 1/24/2011 12:30 PM >>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Joshua Gomez wrote: > Do you guys have any tips on transporting your brews? I've seen a bottle of > tequila that exploded in a friend's suitcase on the way back from Mexico and > I'd rather not smell like beer all week. I usually pack 22 ounce bottles of beer in Ziploc freezer bags. Two bottles per bag fit nicely; three can be a little tight but still works. Then I just pile my clothes on and around the bags of bottles. Mark
Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:10, Joshua Gomez wrote: > Do you guys have any tips on transporting your brews? I've seen a bottle of > tequila that exploded in a friend's suitcase on the way back from Mexico and > I'd rather not smell like beer all week. > When I ported four 750mL bottles of Dogfish to Chicago via Amtrak, I wrapped the bottles in plastic bags to contain any possible explosions and then used a combination of bubble wrap and various items of winter outerwear to protect the bottles. Worked like a charm. Authentic Mexican tequila does explode, though. It's a feature. -Mike
Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Joshua Gomez wrote: > Do you guys have any tips on transporting your brews? I've seen a bottle of > tequila that exploded in a friend's suitcase on the way back from Mexico and > I'd rather not smell like beer all week. I usually pack 22 ounce bottles of beer in Ziploc freezer bags. Two bottles per bag fit nicely; three can be a little tight but still works. Then I just pile my clothes on and around the bags of bottles. Mark
Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
Wow, I'd hate to do a border crossing with exploded bottles. I've driven from PA to FL with cases in picnic coolers. Freeze some ice packs. I use the flexible plastic types. Cool brew -- then include several ice packs in the center of the cooler. -- I have never tried, but could work... Fill empties 1/2 way with water, leave uncapped (allow for expansion of H2O), freeze. Once frozen -- use your capping tool to cap the bottles, include in the mix. Be sure to label frozen water as such -- avoid confusion :) James Gilbert, BS, MLIS Systems Librarian Whitehall Township Public Library 3700 Mechanicsville Road Whitehall, PA 18052 610-432-4330 ext: 203 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Joshua Gomez Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:11 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011 Do you guys have any tips on transporting your brews? I've seen a bottle of tequila that exploded in a friend's suitcase on the way back from Mexico and I'd rather not smell like beer all week. -Josh >>> "Mark A. Matienzo" 1/24/2011 9:41 AM >>> Do you like really good beer and/or would you possibly be willing to bring some in your luggage to Bloomington? A small group of Code4libbers is self-organizing a Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib. The general idea is that people bring beer that they love or at least think other people should try. We'll find a time to sit and taste everyone's selections. You don't have to bring beer to attend or participate, but it certainly helps to ensure that we have enough to go around. If you're a homebrewer, you're welcome to bring your own if you think it will pass our muster. I have created a signup sheet on the wiki - please post there with your name, location, ideas of what you might bring, and potential requests for others. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Craft_Brew_Drinkup Mark A. Matienzo Digital Archivist, Manuscripts and Archives Yale University Library
Re: [CODE4LIB] more general travel considerations: airport transportation
It turns out that there was already a rideshare page on the wiki: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_rideshare It just didn't have a category tag to associate it with the conference; it does now. Better living through metadata, Ken -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard, Joel M Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:33 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] more general travel considerations: airport transportation I would be amenable to a wiki page. My schedule means I'm going to either sprint to make a 10:40 shuttle or wait roughly two hours waiting for the 12:40 shuttle, but I know that's monday and some (most) people will be arriving sunday. (I couldn't swing the extra hotel night) --Joel Joel Richard IT Specialist, Web Services Department Smithsonian Institution Libraries | http://www.sil.si.edu/ (202) 633-1706 | (202) 786-2861 (f) | richar...@si.edu On Jan 24, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Ken Irwin wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there any effort currently underway to help folks get from the airport > to/from the conference? If not, shall we start one? I'll be driving thru > Indianapolis to/from the event and would be glad to pick up a person or two > on the way. > > I'm sure we don't need to work that all out on the mailing list, but if > there's not such an effort already underway, perhaps a wiki page to > coordinate? > > Ken
Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
Do you guys have any tips on transporting your brews? I've seen a bottle of tequila that exploded in a friend's suitcase on the way back from Mexico and I'd rather not smell like beer all week. -Josh >>> "Mark A. Matienzo" 1/24/2011 9:41 AM >>> Do you like really good beer and/or would you possibly be willing to bring some in your luggage to Bloomington? A small group of Code4libbers is self-organizing a Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib. The general idea is that people bring beer that they love or at least think other people should try. We'll find a time to sit and taste everyone's selections. You don't have to bring beer to attend or participate, but it certainly helps to ensure that we have enough to go around. If you're a homebrewer, you're welcome to bring your own if you think it will pass our muster. I have created a signup sheet on the wiki - please post there with your name, location, ideas of what you might bring, and potential requests for others. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Craft_Brew_Drinkup Mark A. Matienzo Digital Archivist, Manuscripts and Archives Yale University Library
Re: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
Hi Mark, You might also consider including homebrew in the luggage :) With budgets and all, I won't be able to attend. However, I'm sure I'm not the only Systems Librarian who homebrews. James Gilbert, BS, MLIS Systems Librarian Whitehall Township Public Library 3700 Mechanicsville Road Whitehall, PA 18052 610-432-4330 ext: 203 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark A. Matienzo Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:42 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011 Do you like really good beer and/or would you possibly be willing to bring some in your luggage to Bloomington? A small group of Code4libbers is self-organizing a Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib. The general idea is that people bring beer that they love or at least think other people should try. We'll find a time to sit and taste everyone's selections. You don't have to bring beer to attend or participate, but it certainly helps to ensure that we have enough to go around. If you're a homebrewer, you're welcome to bring your own if you think it will pass our muster. I have created a signup sheet on the wiki - please post there with your name, location, ideas of what you might bring, and potential requests for others. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Craft_Brew_Drinkup Mark A. Matienzo Digital Archivist, Manuscripts and Archives Yale University Library
Re: [CODE4LIB] more general travel considerations: airport transportation
FYI, this is already set up and has been for some time. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4L2011_rideshare --Joel On Jan 24, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Ken Irwin wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there any effort currently underway to help folks get from the airport > to/from the conference? If not, shall we start one? I'll be driving thru > Indianapolis to/from the event and would be glad to pick up a person or two > on the way. > > I'm sure we don't need to work that all out on the mailing list, but if > there's not such an effort already underway, perhaps a wiki page to > coordinate? > > Ken
[CODE4LIB] Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib 2011
Do you like really good beer and/or would you possibly be willing to bring some in your luggage to Bloomington? A small group of Code4libbers is self-organizing a Craft Brew Drinkup at Code4lib. The general idea is that people bring beer that they love or at least think other people should try. We'll find a time to sit and taste everyone's selections. You don't have to bring beer to attend or participate, but it certainly helps to ensure that we have enough to go around. If you're a homebrewer, you're welcome to bring your own if you think it will pass our muster. I have created a signup sheet on the wiki - please post there with your name, location, ideas of what you might bring, and potential requests for others. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Craft_Brew_Drinkup Mark A. Matienzo Digital Archivist, Manuscripts and Archives Yale University Library
Re: [CODE4LIB] more general travel considerations: airport transportation
I would be amenable to a wiki page. My schedule means I'm going to either sprint to make a 10:40 shuttle or wait roughly two hours waiting for the 12:40 shuttle, but I know that's monday and some (most) people will be arriving sunday. (I couldn't swing the extra hotel night) --Joel Joel Richard IT Specialist, Web Services Department Smithsonian Institution Libraries | http://www.sil.si.edu/ (202) 633-1706 | (202) 786-2861 (f) | richar...@si.edu On Jan 24, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Ken Irwin wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there any effort currently underway to help folks get from the airport > to/from the conference? If not, shall we start one? I'll be driving thru > Indianapolis to/from the event and would be glad to pick up a person or two > on the way. > > I'm sure we don't need to work that all out on the mailing list, but if > there's not such an effort already underway, perhaps a wiki page to > coordinate? > > Ken
Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference Travel and the Super Bowl
Nick's is a good place to go, but if it's crowded, Buffa Louie's around the corner on Indiana Ave. (in the old Gable's/Book Nook restaurant) also has a lot of televisions. Another couple spots with good football TV watching are just north of the downtown square - Scotty's at 7th and Walnut St or Coaches at 7th and College Ave. Try Nick's or any of those places and more than likely there will be some room to sit and watch. It will be a mixed bag of Packers and Steelers fans and folks who are still mad the Colts aren't there, so it shouldn't matter where you go. I will be wearing my Cheesehead hat, but really only because I have one. Go Colts (next year)! Buffa Louie's 114 S. Indiana Ave. 812-333-3030 Scotty's Brewhouse 302 N. Walnut St 812-333-5151 Coaches Bar & Grille 245 N. College Ave 812-339-3537 Julie On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Mads Villadsen wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 08:37 +0100, Michael B. Klein wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> Due to a complete lack of convenient flights from the Bay Area to the Cold >> Area, it looks like I'm going to be making my connection in Chicago on >> Sunday about the same time the Packers and Steelers are kicking off in >> Dallas. I'm scheduled to get into Indianapolis around 7:15. Then I'll rent a >> car and drive to Bloomington. Thanks to the bloat added by the extra >> commercials and extended halftime show, I *might* make it in time to catch >> some of the 4th quarter. >> >> Anyone else planning to watch the game, in whole or in part? Got any >> specifics on where? > > I'll be dragging a colleague along to watch it with me. Hopefully we'll > be able to watch the game right from the kick off but it all depends on > what shuttle bus we manage to catch from Indianapolis. > > I know absolutely nothing about the sports bars (or anything else for > that matter) in Bloomington but Nick's English Hut seems like a nice > enough place and it is located pretty close to the IMU Hotel. > > So is anyone else up for watching the game? > > Location details (if anyone knows a better place just say so): > > Nick's English Hut > 423 East Kirkwood Avenue, Bloomington, IN 47408 > > -- > Mads Villadsen > Statsbiblioteket > It-udvikler >
[CODE4LIB] more general travel considerations: airport transportation
Hi all, Is there any effort currently underway to help folks get from the airport to/from the conference? If not, shall we start one? I'll be driving thru Indianapolis to/from the event and would be glad to pick up a person or two on the way. I'm sure we don't need to work that all out on the mailing list, but if there's not such an effort already underway, perhaps a wiki page to coordinate? Ken
Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference Travel and the Super Bowl
On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 08:37 +0100, Michael B. Klein wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Due to a complete lack of convenient flights from the Bay Area to the Cold > Area, it looks like I'm going to be making my connection in Chicago on > Sunday about the same time the Packers and Steelers are kicking off in > Dallas. I'm scheduled to get into Indianapolis around 7:15. Then I'll rent a > car and drive to Bloomington. Thanks to the bloat added by the extra > commercials and extended halftime show, I *might* make it in time to catch > some of the 4th quarter. > > Anyone else planning to watch the game, in whole or in part? Got any > specifics on where? I'll be dragging a colleague along to watch it with me. Hopefully we'll be able to watch the game right from the kick off but it all depends on what shuttle bus we manage to catch from Indianapolis. I know absolutely nothing about the sports bars (or anything else for that matter) in Bloomington but Nick's English Hut seems like a nice enough place and it is located pretty close to the IMU Hotel. So is anyone else up for watching the game? Location details (if anyone knows a better place just say so): Nick's English Hut 423 East Kirkwood Avenue, Bloomington, IN 47408 -- Mads Villadsen Statsbiblioteket It-udvikler
