Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt contest winner

2011-12-23 Thread Simon Spero
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On Dec 22, 2011 10:53 PM, Ann Lally ala...@uw.edu wrote:

 Sean Hannan from Johns Hopkins University is the winner of the Code4Lib
 2012 t-shirt design contest! The voting was VERY close, but in the end,
 Sean pulled ahead and came out the winner.
 To see the winning design please visit:
 http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4l2012_t-shirtcontest

 Congratulations Sean!

 Angie Beiriger and Ann Lally
 T-shirt Committee



[CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-23 Thread Susan Kane
I think the repeating morning / afternoon concept has some merit, but
people would need to be assigned to the morning slot or the afternoon slot
on any given day to keep the room sizes reasonable.  Hard to enforce but
necessary.

Maybe there is a big get-together.  Maybe not.  Maybe the smaller
get-togethers that having so much non-presentation time will create are
more worthwhile anyway.

If you are giving one presentation, giving it twice either on the same day
or on another day that week is not what I would call overtime.  Especially
if you don't miss any other info.

You could repeat the conference at a totally different time of year ...
everyone who didn't get in is automatically registered for the second
conference later that year ... kinda wacky but ...

You could plan for a second conference of the same size in the same city
(different hotel).  After presentations for C4L1 are finalized, presenters
are sought on similar topics for C4L2.  Overflow registrations for C4L1
automatically go to C4L2.  Similar content means that institutions who paid
for you to come to learn about X will hopefully not be upset if you learn
about X from a different person across the street.  Everyone hangs out
informally during off-presentation times.

One could call that tracks but I'm trying for more of a mirror download
site concept.

Or ... you just go Big and you accept it and then you think about how to
have other conferences (maybe regional, maybe not) that are Small.

-- Susan


Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Susan Kane wrote:

[trimmed]

 You could repeat the conference at a totally different time of year ...
 everyone who didn't get in is automatically registered for the second
 conference later that year ... kinda wacky but ...
 
 You could plan for a second conference of the same size in the same city
 (different hotel).  After presentations for C4L1 are finalized, presenters
 are sought on similar topics for C4L2.  Overflow registrations for C4L1
 automatically go to C4L2.  Similar content means that institutions who paid
 for you to come to learn about X will hopefully not be upset if you learn
 about X from a different person across the street.  Everyone hangs out
 informally during off-presentation times.
 
 One could call that tracks but I'm trying for more of a mirror download
 site concept.

[trimmed]

For some reason, this jogged my memory --

The DC-IA (Information Architecture) group used to hold an meeting
after the IA Summit to basically recap what was discussed at the IA
Summit.  (I think they called it the 'IA Redux')

As there was more than one track, it allowed people who did go to
the summit to hear more about the other presentations they missed,
and for those who didn't go at all, it gave them a chance to at least
hear second-hand what was discussed.

Obviously, it wasn't nearly as complete as the original, and lost some
in translation, but I found it to be informative.

Particularly when you consider the proposal to limit the number of
attendees from one organization, this means that you spread the
number of attendees out, who can then spread the gospel to the others
that weren't able to attend.

Now, I'm not saying that people have to go out and take copious notes
and then try to get them into some format for dissemination (I did that
for the last RDAP meeting ... it's a lot of work trying to get 'em into a
format that others might understand), but if you get a few people
together who were at the meeting, and they can talk about what they
thought was interesting (possibly referring to notes they might've
jotted down), and that often spurs interesting discussions in itself.

-Joe

ps.  as an example of understandability, compare:
http://vso1.nascom.nasa.gov/joe/notes/rdap/RDAP_2011_notes.txt
http://vso1.nascom.nasa.gov/joe/notes/rdap/RDAP_2011_report.html
(and I took the original notes by hand, not typed, so I was spending
my nights at the meeting typing, then making 'em understandable for
the next week or so)


Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-23 Thread Roy Tennant
I feel like this discussion is missing the boat. Let's be clear: there
are some aspects of small conferences that simply cannot be achieved
by large conferences -- you get to where you are swapping one bad
situation for another. Having said that, I think those of us who pine
for the small conference experience of Code4Lib need to get over it.

Nothing could be simpler than single-tracking. Getting 500 people into
a room designed to hold that many is relatively trivial, and yet we
are cooking up incredible schemes to attempt to cut that number to 250
people in a room for no reason that I can fathom.

Having been one of those aforementioned people whining about the small
conference experience, I hereby withdraw any objections I may have
had. Let's celebrate the success of this community in its ability to
welcome an ever-widening circle of technical librarians of all stripes
and keep on truckin'.

Let's see some proposals for next year that offer the ability to host
a much larger conference than this year's and see what we can do with
it. If it's a disaster then we can try something else.
Roy

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Joe Hourcle
onei...@grace.nascom.nasa.gov wrote:
 On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Susan Kane wrote:

 [trimmed]

 You could repeat the conference at a totally different time of year ...
 everyone who didn't get in is automatically registered for the second
 conference later that year ... kinda wacky but ...

 You could plan for a second conference of the same size in the same city
 (different hotel).  After presentations for C4L1 are finalized, presenters
 are sought on similar topics for C4L2.  Overflow registrations for C4L1
 automatically go to C4L2.  Similar content means that institutions who paid
 for you to come to learn about X will hopefully not be upset if you learn
 about X from a different person across the street.  Everyone hangs out
 informally during off-presentation times.

 One could call that tracks but I'm trying for more of a mirror download
 site concept.

 [trimmed]

 For some reason, this jogged my memory --

 The DC-IA (Information Architecture) group used to hold an meeting
 after the IA Summit to basically recap what was discussed at the IA
 Summit.  (I think they called it the 'IA Redux')

 As there was more than one track, it allowed people who did go to
 the summit to hear more about the other presentations they missed,
 and for those who didn't go at all, it gave them a chance to at least
 hear second-hand what was discussed.

 Obviously, it wasn't nearly as complete as the original, and lost some
 in translation, but I found it to be informative.

 Particularly when you consider the proposal to limit the number of
 attendees from one organization, this means that you spread the
 number of attendees out, who can then spread the gospel to the others
 that weren't able to attend.

 Now, I'm not saying that people have to go out and take copious notes
 and then try to get them into some format for dissemination (I did that
 for the last RDAP meeting ... it's a lot of work trying to get 'em into a
 format that others might understand), but if you get a few people
 together who were at the meeting, and they can talk about what they
 thought was interesting (possibly referring to notes they might've
 jotted down), and that often spurs interesting discussions in itself.

 -Joe

 ps.  as an example of understandability, compare:
        http://vso1.nascom.nasa.gov/joe/notes/rdap/RDAP_2011_notes.txt
        http://vso1.nascom.nasa.gov/joe/notes/rdap/RDAP_2011_report.html
 (and I took the original notes by hand, not typed, so I was spending
 my nights at the meeting typing, then making 'em understandable for
 the next week or so)


Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-23 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Roy Tennant roytenn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Having been one of those aforementioned people whining about the small
 conference experience, I hereby withdraw any objections I may have
 had. Let's celebrate the success of this community in its ability to
 welcome an ever-widening circle of technical librarians of all stripes
 and keep on truckin'.

 Let's see some proposals for next year that offer the ability to host
 a much larger conference than this year's and see what we can do with
 it.

I don't think there is a need for people who want the smaller
conference to withdraw their objections (unless they want to, of
course).  What it all boils down to, in my opinion, is the last
paragraph above.

Propose a conference of the style and size that you want and the
community will vote on it!

If the majority of the folks want a large conference with a different
style, that's what we'll have.  It may be that the people pining for
smaller conferences will then put more focus on the regional ones.

What it all depends on, in my opinion, is someone willing to step up
and say, I'm willing to do the work to make X happen.  X might be a
small regional code4libcamp or it might be a large annual conference
(or it might be a small annual conference with better streaming, etc.)

The community has always had these long sprawling email conversations,
but what it really boils down to, in my opinion, is people from the
community willing to step up and put in the work to make something
happen.  Scratch your itches, folks!

Fwiw,
Kevin


Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-23 Thread Nate Vack
As a guide to how many seats we may need to open up, it could be worth
looking at the size of this mailing list compared to the number of
registrations (waitlist included) for the conference.

Is there a relatively easy way to get that data? Historical list size
seems like it might be tricky...

-n


Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-23 Thread Paul Cummins

On 12/23/2011 1:17 PM, Nate Vack wrote:

As a guide to how many seats we may need to open up, it could be worth
looking at the size of this mailing list compared to the number of
registrations (waitlist included) for the conference.

Is there a relatively easy way to get that data? Historical list size
seems like it might be tricky...

-n



 puzzles are fun. Sorry if this doesn't make any sense but I have to 
jump in here.
   Maybe think about institutions/organizations instead of people, give 
each institution a weight depending on how many they might send. For 
instance, an institution has 10 Code4Lib followers but the reality is 
that they will never send more than one person. So they get a weight of 
one, versus an institution that sends 10 people and their weight could 
be affected by the limit someone talked about. But, if an institution 
volunteered to host, their weight could be increased for 2 years.
   Now have C4L poll the list of slots( institutions) and if they don't 
have their person ready to go, close the slot and go to the next.

 Put the availability responsibility on the institution.

ok, back to last minute shopping, I think I had too much coffee.

PaulC


Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-23 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
Ah, wasn't sure if that's what you were doing or not...

Yeah, Eric would have to supply those numbers (if they're even available?)

Kevin


On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Nate Vack njv...@wisc.edu wrote:
 Right... but I don't have those messages going back to the first c4l.

 This year, it sounds like about 1/4 as many people registered for the
 conference as are on the list. Does that relationship hold for past
 years?

 -n

 On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another source... when you post to the list, you get an
 acknowledgement back that includes:

 [Your message] has been successfully distributed to the CODE4LIB list
 (1904 recipients)

 Eric, love the map...

 Kevin



 On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote:
 The mailing list includes approximately 1800 people:

 http://infomotions.com/blog/2011/03/where-in-the-world-is-the-mail-going/

  --
 ELM


Re: [CODE4LIB] Rare opportunity to join the elite IRC Access Code4LibCon committee

2011-12-23 Thread Michael B. Klein
I wrote up a piece on how to ask Freenode to temporarily raise/remove the
connection limit from the conference's IP block for the duration of the
conference. That has made a huge difference the past two years:

http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/How_To_Plan_A_Code4LibCon#Freenode_IRC_connection

I'm happy to be the point of contact with Freenode again, or let someone
else do the honors. If that means signing up for a committee, well, then
fine. :)

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:

 So far, it is so elite that it is just me, and it has been a long time
 since I accessed IRC from anything other than Apple products.

 It would be great if I could get volunteers from the world of Windows
 and the league of Linux for the IRC Access committee.


 http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php?title=2012_committees_sign-up_pageaction=editsection=15

 Please note that this is, for reasons beyond my ken, distinct from the
 IRC Evangelists committee. Perhaps we could join forces.

 Thanks,

 Cary

 --
 Cary Gordon
 The Cherry Hill Company
 http://chillco.com