Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata

2012-02-13 Thread Graham Triggs
On 13 February 2012 15:57, Nate Vack wrote: > My take on this discussion, coming from a research lab: Metadata isn't meta. Well, coming from a publishing and repositories world, my take is slightly different. > For example, in recordings of, say, blood pressure over time, it's > common to think

Re: [CODE4LIB] neo4j

2012-02-13 Thread Kent Fitch
Hi Chris, Gremlin is the only Tinkerpop technology we've used so far. Re the boosting, we've ended up storing the document boost as a neo4j property on the node, and post-processing the hit list from lucene to get each node and combine the lucene score with the boost to determine our final releva

Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata

2012-02-13 Thread Kåre Fiedler Christiansen
You realize, of course, that discussing the use of the word metametadata could be described as metametametadata? Which would make my post metametametametadata. At which point it all turns into silliness (which it certainly wasn't before... right? :-) ). Best, Kåre > From: Code for Libraries

Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata

2012-02-13 Thread Richard, Joel M
Genny, I agree that the actual data is not in the catalog per se, but it IS in a database somewhere. And the beauty of that digital information (which is where we are all headed) is that all of it can really now be mashed together to produce something new. The contents of _A Tale of Two Cities_

Re: [CODE4LIB] neo4j

2012-02-13 Thread Brian Tingle
My proposal for code4lib on this topic was not selected, but I was invited to give the same talk at the Berkeley Information School Friday afternoon seminar last week (but I had about 40 mins rather than 20). Here are the notes from my talk last Friday: http://tingletech.github.com/296a-1-2012/

Re: [CODE4LIB] RDF advice

2012-02-13 Thread Karen Coyle
On 2/13/12 1:43 PM, Ethan Gruber wrote: Hi Patrick, Thanks. That does make sense. Hopefully others will weigh in with agreement (or disagreement). Sometimes these semantic languages are so flexible that it's unsettling. There are a million ways to do something with only de facto standards ra

Re: [CODE4LIB] RDF advice

2012-02-13 Thread Richard Wallis
Hi Ethan, I will defer to those with greater insight, into what has been discussed earlier in this thread, than myself as to some of the semantics you are trying to crystallise here. What I can offer instead is a bit of advice as to lubricating the process. Firstly, stay as far away from XML as

Re: [CODE4LIB] Berkeley DB and NOID

2012-02-13 Thread John A. Kunze
The standard BerkeleyDB library probably changed when you upgraded Ubuntu, and it complains that the NOID database (written with the old library) is incompatible. You should be able to use db_upgrade to convert the NOID database (NOID/noid.bdb). db_upgrade is a command line utility that comes wi

Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata

2012-02-13 Thread Nate Vack
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Genny Engel wrote: > You simply can't use the average library catalog to look up Author X's novel > that starts with the sentence "So a string walks into a bar."  The actual > data (the novel) is not in the catalog (which is composed only of metadata). That's a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata

2012-02-13 Thread Genny Engel
I think this is a rather different situation from the one libraries commonly deal with, where there is a pretty clear distinction between data representing the full text of a 189-page book by Author X, and the descriptive data that is made up by catalogers or publishers, and is not part of Autho

Re: [CODE4LIB] neo4j

2012-02-13 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
Hey Kent, Awesome. thanks for the info. So, using gremlin, are you using some of the other Tinkerpop technologies? And, haha, in researching stuff this weekend, I actually saw an email you sent to the neo4j google group about the lucene boosting issue… I started playing around with RDF.rb , and

Re: [CODE4LIB] RDF advice

2012-02-13 Thread Ethan Gruber
Hi Patrick, Thanks. That does make sense. Hopefully others will weigh in with agreement (or disagreement). Sometimes these semantic languages are so flexible that it's unsettling. There are a million ways to do something with only de facto standards rather than restricted schemas. For what it

Re: [CODE4LIB] RDF advice

2012-02-13 Thread Patrick Murray-John
Ethan, The semantics do seem odd there. It doesn't seem like a skos:Concept would typically link to a metadata record about -- if I'm following you right -- a specific coin. Is this sort of a FRBRish approach, where your skos:Concept is similar to the abstraction of a frbr:Work (that is, the

[CODE4LIB] Berkeley DB and NOID

2012-02-13 Thread Joshua Gomez
Does anyone here have expertise with Berkeley DB? I was running an instance of NOID (which uses Berkeley DB) to mint and resolve ARKs. I updated the OS for the server it was running on from Ubuntu 9 to Ubuntu 10. Now NOID has stopped working and complains that the db version doesn't match: "Prog

Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata

2012-02-13 Thread Kurt Nordstrom
I got such dirty looks when I used the term "metametadata" to describe something. ;) -Kurt On 02/13/2012 02:39 PM, Becky Yoose wrote: Could this conversation be described as metametadata? *runs, hides* Thanks, Becky

Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata

2012-02-13 Thread Becky Yoose
Could this conversation be described as metametadata? *runs, hides* Thanks, Becky Bonus: Metacow - http://wisconsin.cowparade.com/cow/detail/3973/ On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Richard, Joel M wrote: > I'll second this "amen". It was only when I entered the library world that > I learned

Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata

2012-02-13 Thread Richard, Joel M
I'll second this "amen". It was only when I entered the library world that I learned about the concept of metadata. Of course, I'd been using metadata for 12 years, but I'd never labeled it as such. To me it was just data. Useful information. It took time for this concept of metadata to mesh wit

Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata

2012-02-13 Thread Rosalyn Metz
amen! On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Nate Vack wrote: > My take on this discussion, coming from a research lab: Metadata isn't > meta. > > For example, in recordings of, say, blood pressure over time, it's > common to think about things such as participant identifiers, > acquisition dates, ev

Re: [CODE4LIB] Touch Screens in the Library

2012-02-13 Thread Suchy, Daniel
Last year I spoke with Jennifer Rosenfeld from Woodbury (@jenro on the twitters) about her early homebrew attempt at installing iPads as information look-up devices: http://www.flickr.com/photos/redbobsled/sets/72157624705494862/detail/ She had lots of practical advice, and would be worth conta

Re: [CODE4LIB] Touch Screens in the Library

2012-02-13 Thread Tara Robertson
We've bolted an ipad to our circ desk for students to search our course reserves interface: http://www.tararobertson.ca/diy-kiosk/ The industrial design shop technicians are building a bunch of secure enclosures for our grad show. I can see if they are willing to share their design. Cheers,

[CODE4LIB] breakout topics c4l12

2012-02-13 Thread Shearer, Timothy J
Hi All, I meant to write down the breakout topics from both tues and wed, but didn't. Did anyone? And if so, would you forward to me off-list? I would also like to throw out my thanks to the organizers and others who made it such a successful and productive conference! Thanks, Tim

Re: [CODE4LIB] Touch Screens in the Library

2012-02-13 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Cynthia Ng wrote: > Hi All, > > I was wondering if anyone has implemented (or plan to implement) touch > screens in their library? We're looking mostly at doing it for > wayfinding (finding items, rooms, etc.) but I'd definitely be > interested in hearing about any

Re: [CODE4LIB] Touch Screens in the Library

2012-02-13 Thread Andreas Orphanides
Oh, I should amend that article with a comment. I just switched over from Firefox to Opera because OH MY GOD FIREFOX YOU USED TO BE A GOOD WEB BROWSER. Opera actually works pretty well for our implementation -- it has a nice built in kiosk mode and URL whitelist, and there were minimal changes req

Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata

2012-02-13 Thread Nate Vack
My take on this discussion, coming from a research lab: Metadata isn't meta. For example, in recordings of, say, blood pressure over time, it's common to think about things such as participant identifiers, acquisition dates, event markers, and sampling rates as "metadata," and the actual measureme

Re: [CODE4LIB] Touch Screens in the Library

2012-02-13 Thread Tod Olson
NCSU has done some work you might be interested in. See this article: Lessons in Public Touchscreen Development by Andreas K. Orphanides In October 2010, the NCSU Libraries debuted its first public touchscreen information kiosk, designed to provide on-demand access to useful and commonly consu

[CODE4LIB] Touch Screens in the Library

2012-02-13 Thread Cynthia Ng
Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has implemented (or plan to implement) touch screens in their library? We're looking mostly at doing it for wayfinding (finding items, rooms, etc.) but I'd definitely be interested in hearing about any other uses. What kind of hardware did you choose? What softw

[CODE4LIB] Job Posting: Electronic Resources Librarian, University of Notre Dame Hesburgh Libraries

2012-02-13 Thread Benjamin Heet
Electronic Resources Librarian February 13, 2012 The University of Notre Dame Hesburgh Libraries seeks a knowledgeable, creative and dynamic individual for the position of Electronic Resources Librarian. Working in a collaborative team environment this position will be responsible for im

Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata

2012-02-13 Thread Becky Yoose
Great discussion! My cataloger heart says that you can never have enough, but my manager brain says that you only have a limited amount of resources and time to dedicate. ;cD I agree with Diane saying that metadata is not static. Your use cases will change in the future due to changed user needs o