[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page
Since the Code4Lib wiki is live again, I put the link to Code4Lib Indoctrinationhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-9VtL7L_fUxl2hTF_YZSdFRfucaLtmHvLSzom6XPVM/edit?pli=1 Google Doc on the main page. Feel free to move to a different page if the main page is not the right place. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#About_Code4Lib If you haven't checked out the Google Doc, it's worth looking at. ~Bohyun
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page
When I saw the subject I immediately thought of the Borg: You will be assimilated. - Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S. Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dr...@tc3.edu Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 Online Identity: http://claimID.com/billdrew StrengthsQuest: Ideation, Input, Learner, Activator, Communication http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill_Drew/ From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bohyun Kim [k...@fiu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:55 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page Since the Code4Lib wiki is live again, I put the link to Code4Lib Indoctrinationhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-9VtL7L_fUxl2hTF_YZSdFRfucaLtmHvLSzom6XPVM/edit?pli=1 Google Doc on the main page. Feel free to move to a different page if the main page is not the right place. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#About_Code4Lib If you haven't checked out the Google Doc, it's worth looking at. ~Bohyun
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page
In my defense, I didn't pick the term, 'indoctrination.' =) But it shows something about the community, eh? The alternative title to the doc that someone added is also How do we make code4lib a more inclusive place for newcomers? Or, how do we quickly indoctrinate newbies to our values and ways of doing things? But again, these titles show that anyone can name things and it is likely to stick. So it is open to all to make changes. Perhaps some of us should form the Upright Code4Lib Brigade against the Indoctrination. Cheers, ~Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Wilfred Drew Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page When I saw the subject I immediately thought of the Borg: You will be assimilated. - Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S. Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dr...@tc3.edu Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 Online Identity: http://claimID.com/billdrew StrengthsQuest: Ideation, Input, Learner, Activator, Communication http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill_Drew/ From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bohyun Kim [k...@fiu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:55 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page Since the Code4Lib wiki is live again, I put the link to Code4Lib Indoctrinationhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-9VtL7L_fUxl2hTF_YZSdFRfucaLtmHvLSzom6XPVM/edit?pli=1 Google Doc on the main page. Feel free to move to a different page if the main page is not the right place. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#About_Code4Lib If you haven't checked out the Google Doc, it's worth looking at. ~Bohyun
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page
Would the upright code4lib brigade be opposed by the horizontal code4lib posse? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:49, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: In my defense, I didn't pick the term, 'indoctrination.' =) But it shows something about the community, eh? The alternative title to the doc that someone added is also How do we make code4lib a more inclusive place for newcomers? Or, how do we quickly indoctrinate newbies to our values and ways of doing things? But again, these titles show that anyone can name things and it is likely to stick. So it is open to all to make changes. Perhaps some of us should form the Upright Code4Lib Brigade against the Indoctrination. Cheers, ~Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Wilfred Drew Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page When I saw the subject I immediately thought of the Borg: You will be assimilated. - Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S. Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dr...@tc3.edu Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 Online Identity: http://claimID.com/billdrew StrengthsQuest: Ideation, Input, Learner, Activator, Communication http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill_Drew/ From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bohyun Kim [k...@fiu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:55 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page Since the Code4Lib wiki is live again, I put the link to Code4Lib Indoctrination https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-9VtL7L_fUxl2hTF_YZSdFRfucaLtmHvLSzom6XPVM/edit?pli=1 Google Doc on the main page. Feel free to move to a different page if the main page is not the right place. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#About_Code4Lib If you haven't checked out the Google Doc, it's worth looking at. ~Bohyun
[CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
Hi All, We're looking at implementing an issue tracker for internal use, so I'm looking for recommendations. What's key: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box 2) small scale is okay, we have a very small team 3) ideally, have an area for documentation and issue creation via email What does your institution use? What do you like and dislike most about it? Would you recommend it to others? Responses (short or detailed) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cynthia
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page
In my defense, I didn't pick the term, 'indoctrination.' =) But it shows something about the community, eh? The alternative title to the doc that someone added is also How do we make code4lib a more inclusive place for newcomers? Or, how do we quickly indoctrinate newbies to our values and ways of doing things? But again, these titles show that anyone can name things and it is likely to stick. So it is open to all to make changes. Perhaps some of us should form the Upright Code4Lib Brigade against the Indoctrination. If the indoctrination reminds some of the Borg... perhaps you should name the brigade Unimatrix^H^H^H^H^H^Hcode Zero? Ae.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page
I was thinking of the slouching code4lib mob, myself. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:00 AM, David Fiander da...@fiander.info wrote: Would the upright code4lib brigade be opposed by the horizontal code4lib posse? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:49, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: In my defense, I didn't pick the term, 'indoctrination.' =) But it shows something about the community, eh? The alternative title to the doc that someone added is also How do we make code4lib a more inclusive place for newcomers? Or, how do we quickly indoctrinate newbies to our values and ways of doing things? But again, these titles show that anyone can name things and it is likely to stick. So it is open to all to make changes. Perhaps some of us should form the Upright Code4Lib Brigade against the Indoctrination. Cheers, ~Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Wilfred Drew Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page When I saw the subject I immediately thought of the Borg: You will be assimilated. - Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S. Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dr...@tc3.edu Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 Online Identity: http://claimID.com/billdrew StrengthsQuest: Ideation, Input, Learner, Activator, Communication http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill_Drew/ From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bohyun Kim [k...@fiu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:55 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page Since the Code4Lib wiki is live again, I put the link to Code4Lib Indoctrination https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-9VtL7L_fUxl2hTF_YZSdFRfucaLtmHvLSzom6XPVM/edit?pli=1 Google Doc on the main page. Feel free to move to a different page if the main page is not the right place. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#About_Code4Lib If you haven't checked out the Google Doc, it's worth looking at. ~Bohyun
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:36, Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: What's key: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box 2) small scale is okay, we have a very small team 3) ideally, have an area for documentation and issue creation via email What does your institution use? What do you like and dislike most about it? Would you recommend it to others? We have been using Redmine for the past year or so. We use it for issues and for code repo integration and for tying issues to commits. We don't much use the wiki/doc functionality and we do not create issues via email, though I do believe it supports both of those features out of the box. We're very happy with it and would recommend it. It runs on Ruby on Rails, so make sure you can support that in your environment, needless to say. I've also used Trac in the past, which I also liked very much but I've found Redmine to be a little less fiddly though I recognize that is highly subjective. If it's easier to support Python/wsgi apps in your environment, Trac might be a better choice than than Redmine assuming its feature set matches your needs. -Mike
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
Not Jira. -Sean On 2/22/12 12:36 PM, Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We're looking at implementing an issue tracker for internal use, so I'm looking for recommendations. What's key: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box 2) small scale is okay, we have a very small team 3) ideally, have an area for documentation and issue creation via email What does your institution use? What do you like and dislike most about it? Would you recommend it to others? Responses (short or detailed) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cynthia
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
On 2/22/12 11:59 AM, Sean Hannan wrote: Not Jira. Not RT. ./fxk -- I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. -- Thomas Paine
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box You might look into github for this. If you're doing something internal with a small team, the $7 or $12/month plans might do well for you. -n
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
Most of our teams use Redmine. It's very lightweight. On smaller projects we use the wiki for documentation. The markup has shorthand for linking back to issues which comes in handy. There are two ways to setup email issue creation/closing. If you use the SMTP option, email is very easy to setup. The Sendmail option is a little more hacky. -Stephanie On 2/22/12 9:53 AM, Michael J. Giarlo leftw...@alumni.rutgers.edu wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:36, Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: What's key: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box 2) small scale is okay, we have a very small team 3) ideally, have an area for documentation and issue creation via email What does your institution use? What do you like and dislike most about it? Would you recommend it to others? We have been using Redmine for the past year or so. We use it for issues and for code repo integration and for tying issues to commits. We don't much use the wiki/doc functionality and we do not create issues via email, though I do believe it supports both of those features out of the box. We're very happy with it and would recommend it. It runs on Ruby on Rails, so make sure you can support that in your environment, needless to say. I've also used Trac in the past, which I also liked very much but I've found Redmine to be a little less fiddly though I recognize that is highly subjective. If it's easier to support Python/wsgi apps in your environment, Trac might be a better choice than than Redmine assuming its feature set matches your needs. -Mike
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
The SupportPress plugin for Wordpress may work for you. I haven't used it in a production setting but have been impressed with how customizable it is. It has a built-in knowledgebase but doesn't support issue creation by email yet. http://www.woothemes.com/2011/07/supportpress/ -- Erin White Web Systems Librarian, VCU Libraries 804-827-3552 | erwh...@vcu.edu | www.library.vcu.edu From: Nate Vack njv...@wisc.edu To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Date: 02/22/2012 01:08 PM Subject:Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations Sent by:Code for Libraries CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box You might look into github for this. If you're doing something internal with a small team, the $7 or $12/month plans might do well for you. -n
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
Redmine would probably be a very good fit for what you want. It does support email ticket creation. We like Jira, but dialing it in can take a pretty substantial effort. Cary On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We're looking at implementing an issue tracker for internal use, so I'm looking for recommendations. What's key: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box 2) small scale is okay, we have a very small team 3) ideally, have an area for documentation and issue creation via email What does your institution use? What do you like and dislike most about it? Would you recommend it to others? Responses (short or detailed) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cynthia -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
Unless your alternative is Footprints. Gah. On 2/22/12 12:59 PM, Sean Hannan shan...@jhu.edu wrote: Not Jira. -Sean On 2/22/12 12:36 PM, Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We're looking at implementing an issue tracker for internal use, so I'm looking for recommendations. What's key: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box 2) small scale is okay, we have a very small team 3) ideally, have an area for documentation and issue creation via email What does your institution use? What do you like and dislike most about it? Would you recommend it to others? Responses (short or detailed) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cynthia
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
On 2/22/12 12:05 PM, Nate Vack wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Cynthia Ngcynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box You might look into github for this. Oh yeah! Clever! If you're doing something internal with a small team, the $7 or $12/month plans might do well for you. If you are a .edu bitbucket[0] will save you the $7 or $12/month listed above. ./fxk [0] http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/bitbucket-academic-license.jsp -- He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp posts... for support rather than illumination. -- Andrew Lang
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
We have the heavyduty solution (JIRA/Greenhopper), but there's a lot of nice relatively cheap web stuff that I think might fit your bill. Just one of the many, many solutions out there: Github for documentation/lightweight issue tracking getdonedone can link to your github and has a lot more features. Luckily, almost every piece of web issue tracking has a free trial: so, it's really easy to see which ones feel nice. It is really up to you whether http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/RedmineInstall counts as minimal effort. I'd say, unless you've already got ruby 1.8 passenger stacks ready to go, it's probably not so much. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Varnum, Ken var...@umich.edu wrote: Unless your alternative is Footprints. Gah. On 2/22/12 12:59 PM, Sean Hannan shan...@jhu.edu wrote: Not Jira. -Sean On 2/22/12 12:36 PM, Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We're looking at implementing an issue tracker for internal use, so I'm looking for recommendations. What's key: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box 2) small scale is okay, we have a very small team 3) ideally, have an area for documentation and issue creation via email What does your institution use? What do you like and dislike most about it? Would you recommend it to others? Responses (short or detailed) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cynthia
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Cynthia Ng wrote: Hi All, We're looking at implementing an issue tracker for internal use, so I'm looking for recommendations. What's key: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box 2) small scale is okay, we have a very small team 3) ideally, have an area for documentation and issue creation via email What does your institution use? What do you like and dislike most about it? Would you recommend it to others? Responses (short or detailed) would be greatly appreciated. I've only managed Bugzilla and Trac. They both were a little annoying to set up (define all of your software components and versions, and who's responsible for each one, so they'll get notified if bugs are filed). Trac has good reporting wiki for documentation, and their markup syntax makes it easy to link trouble tickets within the documentation (and it'll scratch them out as they're marked as resolved). I did get into some problems, as we had it open to the public, and someone posted an attachment*, which triggered a 'security incident' (which didn't seem to reach the 'men with guns show up and seize your machines' like it had in the past ... instead, it was 'we're going to make you rebuild your machine over and over against until we say it's okay' so I wasted 2 weeks on it) It's also a bit of a pain to strip all occurrences of the term 'wiki' and 'trac' from the software, so that I didn't show up as 7 of the top 10 results in google for 'site:nasa.gov wiki'. If you're keeping it private, it might not be so bad. I also have no idea how useful the interaction with change control is ... we were using CVS, and it was still subversion specific back then. I've also helped to configure Remedy before, it was more than a decade ago, but it left a bad taste it my mouth (and it wasn't cheap) ... As others have mentioned github, I know there's other services out there ... one project here uses launchpad.net (which is tied to Bazaar), and they seem happy with it, but I've never administered it myself. -Joe * The attachment was an image which said 'I've hacked your machine'. Years later, when we switched virus scanning software, it found a backup that had that file in it, and it turns out there was a JPEG exploit in it ... but the security gestapo had thought that *my* server had been hacked, which is what triggered it all.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page
Slouching toward Chicago, waiting to drink good beer... -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Julia Bauder Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:48 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page I was thinking of the slouching code4lib mob, myself. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:00 AM, David Fiander da...@fiander.info wrote: Would the upright code4lib brigade be opposed by the horizontal code4lib posse? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:49, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: In my defense, I didn't pick the term, 'indoctrination.' =) But it shows something about the community, eh? The alternative title to the doc that someone added is also How do we make code4lib a more inclusive place for newcomers? Or, how do we quickly indoctrinate newbies to our values and ways of doing things? But again, these titles show that anyone can name things and it is likely to stick. So it is open to all to make changes. Perhaps some of us should form the Upright Code4Lib Brigade against the Indoctrination. Cheers, ~Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Wilfred Drew Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page When I saw the subject I immediately thought of the Borg: You will be assimilated. - Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S. Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dr...@tc3.edu Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 Online Identity: http://claimID.com/billdrew StrengthsQuest: Ideation, Input, Learner, Activator, Communication http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill_Drew/ From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bohyun Kim [k...@fiu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:55 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page Since the Code4Lib wiki is live again, I put the link to Code4Lib Indoctrination https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-9VtL7L_fUxl2hTF_YZSdFRfucaLtmHvL Szom6XPVM/edit?pli=1 Google Doc on the main page. Feel free to move to a different page if the main page is not the right place. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#About_Code4Lib If you haven't checked out the Google Doc, it's worth looking at. ~Bohyun
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
I've been happy with Trac. It does have good SCM integration. Many of the options listed have VMs available at places like turnkeylinux.org or bitnami.org. You might try out this custom google search I put together: http://ontherhoads.org/brad/2012/02/vm-search-engine/ --- www.maf.org/rhoads www.ontherhoads.org On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Joe Hourcle onei...@grace.nascom.nasa.gov wrote: On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Cynthia Ng wrote: Hi All, We're looking at implementing an issue tracker for internal use, so I'm looking for recommendations. What's key: 1) minimal effort in install/setup i.e. ready to use out of the box 2) small scale is okay, we have a very small team 3) ideally, have an area for documentation and issue creation via email What does your institution use? What do you like and dislike most about it? Would you recommend it to others? Responses (short or detailed) would be greatly appreciated. I've only managed Bugzilla and Trac. They both were a little annoying to set up (define all of your software components and versions, and who's responsible for each one, so they'll get notified if bugs are filed). Trac has good reporting wiki for documentation, and their markup syntax makes it easy to link trouble tickets within the documentation (and it'll scratch them out as they're marked as resolved). I did get into some problems, as we had it open to the public, and someone posted an attachment*, which triggered a 'security incident' (which didn't seem to reach the 'men with guns show up and seize your machines' like it had in the past ... instead, it was 'we're going to make you rebuild your machine over and over against until we say it's okay' so I wasted 2 weeks on it) It's also a bit of a pain to strip all occurrences of the term 'wiki' and 'trac' from the software, so that I didn't show up as 7 of the top 10 results in google for 'site:nasa.gov wiki'. If you're keeping it private, it might not be so bad. I also have no idea how useful the interaction with change control is ... we were using CVS, and it was still subversion specific back then. I've also helped to configure Remedy before, it was more than a decade ago, but it left a bad taste it my mouth (and it wasn't cheap) ... As others have mentioned github, I know there's other services out there ... one project here uses launchpad.net (which is tied to Bazaar), and they seem happy with it, but I've never administered it myself. -Joe * The attachment was an image which said 'I've hacked your machine'. Years later, when we switched virus scanning software, it found a backup that had that file in it, and it turns out there was a JPEG exploit in it ... but the security gestapo had thought that *my* server had been hacked, which is what triggered it all.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page
No slouching allowed. At OCLC-approved conferences, if you got time to lean you've got time to clean (authority files). -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Fleming, Declan Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:59 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page Slouching toward Chicago, waiting to drink good beer... -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Julia Bauder Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:48 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page I was thinking of the slouching code4lib mob, myself. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:00 AM, David Fiander da...@fiander.info wrote: Would the upright code4lib brigade be opposed by the horizontal code4lib posse? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:49, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: In my defense, I didn't pick the term, 'indoctrination.' =) But it shows something about the community, eh? The alternative title to the doc that someone added is also How do we make code4lib a more inclusive place for newcomers? Or, how do we quickly indoctrinate newbies to our values and ways of doing things? But again, these titles show that anyone can name things and it is likely to stick. So it is open to all to make changes. Perhaps some of us should form the Upright Code4Lib Brigade against the Indoctrination. Cheers, ~Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Wilfred Drew Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page When I saw the subject I immediately thought of the Borg: You will be assimilated. - Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S. Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dr...@tc3.edu Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 Online Identity: http://claimID.com/billdrew StrengthsQuest: Ideation, Input, Learner, Activator, Communication http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill_Drew/ From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bohyun Kim [k...@fiu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:55 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page Since the Code4Lib wiki is live again, I put the link to Code4Lib Indoctrination https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-9VtL7L_fUxl2hTF_YZSdFRfucaLtmHvL Szom6XPVM/edit?pli=1 Google Doc on the main page. Feel free to move to a different page if the main page is not the right place. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#About_Code4Lib If you haven't checked out the Google Doc, it's worth looking at. ~Bohyun
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page
Or Level 3 records for that manner... On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Suchy, Daniel dsu...@ucsd.edu wrote: No slouching allowed. At OCLC-approved conferences, if you got time to lean you've got time to clean (authority files). -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Fleming, Declan Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:59 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page Slouching toward Chicago, waiting to drink good beer... -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Julia Bauder Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:48 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page I was thinking of the slouching code4lib mob, myself. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:00 AM, David Fiander da...@fiander.info wrote: Would the upright code4lib brigade be opposed by the horizontal code4lib posse? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:49, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: In my defense, I didn't pick the term, 'indoctrination.' =) But it shows something about the community, eh? The alternative title to the doc that someone added is also How do we make code4lib a more inclusive place for newcomers? Or, how do we quickly indoctrinate newbies to our values and ways of doing things? But again, these titles show that anyone can name things and it is likely to stick. So it is open to all to make changes. Perhaps some of us should form the Upright Code4Lib Brigade against the Indoctrination. Cheers, ~Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Wilfred Drew Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page When I saw the subject I immediately thought of the Borg: You will be assimilated. - Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S. Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dr...@tc3.edu Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 Online Identity: http://claimID.com/billdrew StrengthsQuest: Ideation, Input, Learner, Activator, Communication http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill_Drew/ From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bohyun Kim [k...@fiu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:55 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page Since the Code4Lib wiki is live again, I put the link to Code4Lib Indoctrination https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-9VtL7L_fUxl2hTF_YZSdFRfucaLtmHvL Szom6XPVM/edit?pli=1 Google Doc on the main page. Feel free to move to a different page if the main page is not the right place. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#About_Code4Lib If you haven't checked out the Google Doc, it's worth looking at. ~Bohyun
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com What does your institution use? What do you like and dislike most about it? Would you recommend it to others? RT and Trac. RT has tons of features, is easy to extend and build lots of dependencies on, which is why it's still in use, but it can be a bit annoying/clunky to use, especially its web interface; whereas trac is easier to set up and use almost as easy to extend, although in a rather different way. I'd recommend Trac to others. I'd also like to nominate Jira, FogBugz and Pivotal Tracker as ones to run away from, mainly due to past bad experiences of email-mangling and/or upload-mangling. Hope that helps, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/
[CODE4LIB] fresh from the brewery shipping service
Since descriptions of code4lib always seem to include the term beery, I thought this somewhat noisy post would still be appropriate. I just discovered a service (www.beerjobber.com) that picks up beer direct from craft brewers and ships it you, removing the headache of interstate shipping from the small brewers and enabling you to get those great craft beers you can only get on special occasions like the annual code4lib craft brew drink up night. The FAQ has an interesting explanation about state and local restrictions on both interstate and intrastate shipping. I'm wondering if anyone has already used this service. I'm also curious what people think about using this service versus making special orders through a local vendor. -Josh
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page
Indoctrination is probably the correct term; it's the background briefing before being read in to the compartment. Simon On Feb 22, 2012 11:52 AM, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: In my defense, I didn't pick the term, 'indoctrination.' =) But it shows something about the community, eh? The alternative title to the doc that someone added is also How do we make code4lib a more inclusive place for newcomers? Or, how do we quickly indoctrinate newbies to our values and ways of doing things? But again, these titles show that anyone can name things and it is likely to stick. So it is open to all to make changes. Perhaps some of us should form the Upright Code4Lib Brigade against the Indoctrination. Cheers, ~Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Wilfred Drew Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page When I saw the subject I immediately thought of the Borg: You will be assimilated. - Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S. Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dr...@tc3.edu Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 Online Identity: http://claimID.com/billdrew StrengthsQuest: Ideation, Input, Learner, Activator, Communication http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill_Drew/ From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bohyun Kim [k...@fiu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:55 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page Since the Code4Lib wiki is live again, I put the link to Code4Lib Indoctrination https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-9VtL7L_fUxl2hTF_YZSdFRfucaLtmHvLSzom6XPVM/edit?pli=1 Google Doc on the main page. Feel free to move to a different page if the main page is not the right place. http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#About_Code4Lib If you haven't checked out the Google Doc, it's worth looking at. ~Bohyun
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
Thanks for all the responses, everyone. If there are any more, I'd still like to hear them. Should probably add that 4) it's more for issue tracking/documentation i.e. code versioning/repository is not a priority right now (though it's great if it has that feature) There will be discussions with the rest of the team and we'll have to talk to the programmer/server admin to see what he thinks is easier to implement, but we're likely to go with Redmine or Trac based on recommendations/needs.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
You might want to take a look at asana: http://asana.com/ -Nate Nathan Sarr Senior Software Engineer River Campus Libraries University of Rochester Rochester, NY 14627 (585) 275-0692 ns...@library.rochester.edu -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cynthia Ng Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:46 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations Thanks for all the responses, everyone. If there are any more, I'd still like to hear them. Should probably add that 4) it's more for issue tracking/documentation i.e. code versioning/repository is not a priority right now (though it's great if it has that feature) There will be discussions with the rest of the team and we'll have to talk to the programmer/server admin to see what he thinks is easier to implement, but we're likely to go with Redmine or Trac based on recommendations/needs.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2?
Erik, We did a study a few months ago to evaluate the Amazon EC2 as an alternative host to both physical and virtual server spaces managed in house. Won't go into too much detail on it (unless people are interested), but our benchmark tests showed the performance of the EC2 consistently beat the performance of our in-house servers. The only big issue we had was cost, where our estimation of the price of running our servers off the EC2 would make actually doing so prohibitive. There were also some confusing fees built in the payment model, the one off the top of my head being x cents per million I/O operations. As someone who went with the EC2 and is running one currently, could you comment quick on your monthly costs (though I understand though if you don't want to release that information.) Thanks. David K. Uspal Technology Development Specialist Falvey Memorial Library Phone: 610-519-8954 Email: david.us...@villanova.edu -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Erik Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:22 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2? Hi Nate When I was at Wake Forest University we moved a large chunk of our web services to Amazon and it worked out well. We chose Amazon because at the time they were the clear leader in IaaS stuff but since then a number of providers (Linode and Rackspace are two) have emerged as alternatives. As for why we moved that is a long story :) Erik On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for cross-posting. If yes, I'd love to hear why you chose to and how that is working out for you. Thanks! -- Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com http://www.natehill.net
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
Because Trac and Git have come up: Zotero has switched from Trac/SVN to Git and I (and I think everyone else involved) much prefers git, not least because of it's better issue handling. I found Trac slow, clumsy, and ugly. If, as you say, the code repository function isn't important, there may very well be better products for issue tracking only, but between Trac and github the latter is imho much superior. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Sarr, Nathan ns...@library.rochester.edu wrote: You might want to take a look at asana: http://asana.com/ -Nate Nathan Sarr Senior Software Engineer River Campus Libraries University of Rochester Rochester, NY 14627 (585) 275-0692 ns...@library.rochester.edu -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cynthia Ng Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:46 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations Thanks for all the responses, everyone. If there are any more, I'd still like to hear them. Should probably add that 4) it's more for issue tracking/documentation i.e. code versioning/repository is not a priority right now (though it's great if it has that feature) There will be discussions with the rest of the team and we'll have to talk to the programmer/server admin to see what he thinks is easier to implement, but we're likely to go with Redmine or Trac based on recommendations/needs. -- -- Sebastian Karcher Ph.D. Candidate Department of Political Science Northwestern University
Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2?
For what its worth, I posted the details of a month of running http://dltj.org/ out of an EC2 instance after I converted last year. The details are at: http://dltj.org/article/aws-hosting-cost/ It is a WordPress site that gets about 20,000 page views a month. Peter On Feb 22, 2012, at 5:00 PM, David Uspal wrote: Erik, We did a study a few months ago to evaluate the Amazon EC2 as an alternative host to both physical and virtual server spaces managed in house. Won't go into too much detail on it (unless people are interested), but our benchmark tests showed the performance of the EC2 consistently beat the performance of our in-house servers. The only big issue we had was cost, where our estimation of the price of running our servers off the EC2 would make actually doing so prohibitive. There were also some confusing fees built in the payment model, the one off the top of my head being x cents per million I/O operations. As someone who went with the EC2 and is running one currently, could you comment quick on your monthly costs (though I understand though if you don't want to release that information.) Thanks. David K. Uspal Technology Development Specialist Falvey Memorial Library Phone: 610-519-8954 Email: david.us...@villanova.edu -- Peter Murray Assistant Director, Technology Services Development LYRASIS peter.mur...@lyrasis.org +1 678-235-2955 1438 West Peachtree Street NW Suite 200 Atlanta, GA 30309 Toll Free: 800.999.8558 Fax: 404.892.7879 www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Great Libraries. Strong Communities. Innovative Answers.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2?
I'd also be interested in getting some real world cost information. I installed an app on EC2 that went mostly unused for a couple months but meanwhile racked up over $300 in charges. Color me surprised. Roy On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:00 PM, David Uspal david.us...@villanova.eduwrote: Erik, We did a study a few months ago to evaluate the Amazon EC2 as an alternative host to both physical and virtual server spaces managed in house. Won't go into too much detail on it (unless people are interested), but our benchmark tests showed the performance of the EC2 consistently beat the performance of our in-house servers. The only big issue we had was cost, where our estimation of the price of running our servers off the EC2 would make actually doing so prohibitive. There were also some confusing fees built in the payment model, the one off the top of my head being x cents per million I/O operations. As someone who went with the EC2 and is running one currently, could you comment quick on your monthly costs (though I understand though if you don't want to release that information.) Thanks. David K. Uspal Technology Development Specialist Falvey Memorial Library Phone: 610-519-8954 Email: david.us...@villanova.edu -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Erik Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:22 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2? Hi Nate When I was at Wake Forest University we moved a large chunk of our web services to Amazon and it worked out well. We chose Amazon because at the time they were the clear leader in IaaS stuff but since then a number of providers (Linode and Rackspace are two) have emerged as alternatives. As for why we moved that is a long story :) Erik On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for cross-posting. If yes, I'd love to hear why you chose to and how that is working out for you. Thanks! -- Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com http://www.natehill.net
Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations
On 2/22/2012 5:10 PM, Sebastian Karcher wrote: Because Trac and Git have come up: Zotero has switched from Trac/SVN to Git and I (and I think everyone else involved) much prefers git, not least because of it's better issue handling. I found Trac slow, clumsy, and ugly. I'm confused. Git is a source control repo, like svn. Trac is an issue tracker. Okay, you switched from svn to git (which to me seems somewhat orthogonal to issue tracker, although it's true that certain issue tracker software integrates with some versioning control systems and not others, like trac does with svn). But what are you using for issue tracking now, instead of Trac? git is not an issue tracker, so I'm not sure what you mean by git's better issue handling, git doesn't do issue handling (any more than svn does). Do you mean you're using github.com as your git host, and their issue tracker? Or something else? Jonathan If, as you say, the code repository function isn't important, there may very well be better products for issue tracking only, but between Trac and github the latter is imho much superior. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Sarr, Nathan ns...@library.rochester.edu wrote: You might want to take a look at asana: http://asana.com/ -Nate Nathan Sarr Senior Software Engineer River Campus Libraries University of Rochester Rochester, NY 14627 (585) 275-0692 ns...@library.rochester.edu -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cynthia Ng Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:46 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Issue Tracker Recommendations Thanks for all the responses, everyone. If there are any more, I'd still like to hear them. Should probably add that 4) it's more for issue tracking/documentation i.e. code versioning/repository is not a priority right now (though it's great if it has that feature) There will be discussions with the rest of the team and we'll have to talk to the programmer/server admin to see what he thinks is easier to implement, but we're likely to go with Redmine or Trac based on recommendations/needs.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2?
Roy Tennant writes I'd also be interested in getting some real world cost information. I installed an app on EC2 that went mostly unused for a couple months but meanwhile racked up over $300 in charges. Color me surprised. I am not impressed by Amazon either. I have an instance given to me by a sponsor, and there I have been taken aback by the old Debian kernel version this puts me in. I rent three root servers with Hetzner.de. That's for large-scale work. To run a blog, a 3TB disk 16 Gig ram box from Hetzner is overkill. With Hetzner you have the exchange rate risk but the cost structure is much simpler. Cheers, Thomas Krichelhttp://openlib.org/home/krichel http://authorprofile.org/pkr1 skype: thomaskrichel
Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2?
At Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:34:14 +0100, Thomas Krichel wrote: Roy Tennant writes I'd also be interested in getting some real world cost information. I installed an app on EC2 that went mostly unused for a couple months but meanwhile racked up over $300 in charges. Color me surprised. I am not impressed by Amazon either. I have an instance given to me by a sponsor, and there I have been taken aback by the old Debian kernel version this puts me in. I rent three root servers with Hetzner.de. That's for large-scale work. To run a blog, a 3TB disk 16 Gig ram box from Hetzner is overkill. With Hetzner you have the exchange rate risk but the cost structure is much simpler. Another satisfied customer. best, Erik Hetzner PS: But seriously, no relation. Sent from my free software system http://fsf.org/. pgpZvpL5tGJVN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2?
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Roy Tennant roytenn...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also be interested in getting some real world cost information. I installed an app on EC2 that went mostly unused for a couple months but meanwhile racked up over $300 in charges. Color me surprised. EC2 can be a bargain or a cash hog depending on what you do. Some aspects of their service are cheap, others are not so cheap. In all cases, you want to be very aware of what you're using and making sure you're not paying for things you don't need. For example, it's really important not to pay for excess capacity. In the regular world, you buy capacity for your highest potential use case. But if you do that with Amazon, you'll rack up charges quickly with such an approach. Set things up so you have what you need only when you actually need it. You have to pay attention to their pricing structures as doing the same thing on EC2 can cost wildly different amounts depending on how you do it. We've used EC2 for a few years, have been very happy with the experience, and are tending to shift more services in that direction. Provisioning what you need is a snap, changing what you have to meet your needs on the fly is easy, and it's been very cost effective for us. kyle -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.999.9787
[CODE4LIB] After we left Seattle...
...the Faerie Convention moved into our conference space. http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/02/13/seattle-faeriecon-2012-a-retrospective Unfortunately (for them), they didn't have Corey streaming their festivities.
Re: [CODE4LIB] After we left Seattle...
Is there a declicorn bounty on that last image? -nruest On 12-02-22 09:02 PM, Michael B. Klein wrote: ...the Faerie Convention moved into our conference space. http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/02/13/seattle-faeriecon-2012-a-retrospective Unfortunately (for them), they didn't have Corey streaming their festivities. -- -- Nick Ruest Digital Preservation Librarian, Repository Architect, and Digitization Coordinator President - McMaster University Academic Librarians' Association McMaster University Mills Memorial Library 1280 Main Street West Hamilton, ON L8S 4L6 Phone: 905.525.9140 ext. 21276 Email: rue...@mcmaster.ca http://library.mcmaster.ca/contact/ruest-nicholas http://ruebot.net/ Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned to a particular decade. It is a personal process embedded in the human spirit. - Abbie Hoffman
Re: [CODE4LIB] After we left Seattle...
most edible is a category? really? it seems like they're not taking this very seriously. - Tom On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Nick Ruest wrote: Is there a declicorn bounty on that last image? -nruest On 12-02-22 09:02 PM, Michael B. Klein wrote: ...the Faerie Convention moved into our conference space. http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/02/13/seattle-faeriecon-2012-a-retrospective Unfortunately (for them), they didn't have Corey streaming their festivities. -- -- Nick Ruest Digital Preservation Librarian, Repository Architect, and Digitization Coordinator President - McMaster University Academic Librarians' Association McMaster University Mills Memorial Library 1280 Main Street West Hamilton, ON L8S 4L6 Phone: 905.525.9140 ext. 21276 Email: rue...@mcmaster.ca http://library.mcmaster.ca/contact/ruest-nicholas http://ruebot.net/ Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned to a particular decade. It is a personal process embedded in the human spirit. - Abbie Hoffman
Re: [CODE4LIB] After we left Seattle...
Is that you on the left? http://www.thestranger.com/images/blogimages/2012/02/13/1329169799-fc-11.jpg On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Michael B. Klein mbkl...@gmail.com wrote: ...the Faerie Convention moved into our conference space. http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/02/13/seattle-faeriecon-2012-a-retrospective Unfortunately (for them), they didn't have Corey streaming their festivities. -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
[CODE4LIB] Project Management Software Question
Question for all the code4lib developers out there: --What project management software are you using? --What made you choose the system? --Has the system met all of your needs? If not, where does it fail? --Overall opinions? --What systems did you evaluate and decide not to recommend? Any information would be great! Thanks, Brian Brian McBride Head of Application Development J. Willard Marriott Library O: 801.585.7613 F: 801.585.5549 brian.mcbr...@utah.edumailto:brian.mcbr...@utah.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2?
Erik Hetzner writes Another satisfied customer. Actually I did not write that I was/am satisfied. ;-) They once managed to disassemble my server and I lost all the data on it. They were so embarrassed that they gave my sponsor the box for free for a year. I was fine because I had a backup so not much of a problem. The lesson learnt is that in any case you always need a backup, and it better be a local one or something hosted with a different company. There is no substitute for system administration skills. PS: But seriously, no relation. Neither do I have with them, other than being a customer. Cheers, Thomas Krichelhttp://openlib.org/home/krichel http://authorprofile.org/pkr1 skype: thomaskrichel
Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2?
EC2 works for a lot of models, but one that it does not work for is small traffic apps that need to be available 24/7. If you have a small instance (AWS term) running full time with a fixed IP, it costs about $75 a month. If you turn it on for 2 hours a day, it costs about $15/month. A large instance is about $325. Now where it gets interesting is if your app needs a large instance, but only run a few hours a month, you might be able to run a micro instance that is set to start a large (or ???) instance on demand, and run the whole thing for peanuts. Cary On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Roy Tennant roytenn...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also be interested in getting some real world cost information. I installed an app on EC2 that went mostly unused for a couple months but meanwhile racked up over $300 in charges. Color me surprised. Roy On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:00 PM, David Uspal david.us...@villanova.eduwrote: Erik, We did a study a few months ago to evaluate the Amazon EC2 as an alternative host to both physical and virtual server spaces managed in house. Won't go into too much detail on it (unless people are interested), but our benchmark tests showed the performance of the EC2 consistently beat the performance of our in-house servers. The only big issue we had was cost, where our estimation of the price of running our servers off the EC2 would make actually doing so prohibitive. There were also some confusing fees built in the payment model, the one off the top of my head being x cents per million I/O operations. As someone who went with the EC2 and is running one currently, could you comment quick on your monthly costs (though I understand though if you don't want to release that information.) Thanks. David K. Uspal Technology Development Specialist Falvey Memorial Library Phone: 610-519-8954 Email: david.us...@villanova.edu -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Erik Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:22 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2? Hi Nate When I was at Wake Forest University we moved a large chunk of our web services to Amazon and it worked out well. We chose Amazon because at the time they were the clear leader in IaaS stuff but since then a number of providers (Linode and Rackspace are two) have emerged as alternatives. As for why we moved that is a long story :) Erik On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for cross-posting. If yes, I'd love to hear why you chose to and how that is working out for you. Thanks! -- Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com http://www.natehill.net -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Any libraries have their sites hosted on Amazon EC2?
We did some tests on it, but found it a very poor fit for a site dependent on huge amount of data which much be present to the basically the whole system all the time and up-to-date. In other words, we found it didn't match a site based on MySQL slaves replicating here and there, and with memcached needing to be spot-on. Under some circumstances we'd consider shuffling some image rendering and delivery tasks to it, but that's about it. Tim LibraryThing
Re: [CODE4LIB] Project Management Software Question
I'm in the process of doing an evaluation. SmartSheet is a great tool for creating gantt charts. Overall, Redmine is looking pretty good. Not much info yet, but at least the list of products might be helpful: https://doc.maflt.org/Reviews-Comparisons/Project_Management --- www.maf.org/rhoads www.ontherhoads.org On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Brian McBride brian.mcbr...@utah.edu wrote: Question for all the code4lib developers out there: --What project management software are you using? --What made you choose the system? --Has the system met all of your needs? If not, where does it fail? --Overall opinions? --What systems did you evaluate and decide not to recommend? Any information would be great! Thanks, Brian Brian McBride Head of Application Development J. Willard Marriott Library O: 801.585.7613 F: 801.585.5549 brian.mcbr...@utah.edumailto:brian.mcbr...@utah.edu
