Von: dariah-info-boun...@gwdg.de [dariah-info-boun...@gwdg.de] im Auftrag
von Nagham Salman [nagham.sal...@bsc.es]
Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Januar 2013 13:13
An: eudat-n...@postit.csc.fi
Betreff: [dariah-info] [eudat-news] RDA Conference Invitation
Dear colleagues,
On behalf of Peter
While we're on this topic, can I also ask if it is the intention of someone to
log and publicly post the channel logs? That will also tend to tamp down the
more outlandish behavior.
Peter
--
Peter Murray
Assistant Director, Technology Services Development
LYRASIS
peter.mur...@lyrasis.org
+1
As a Newberry inmate, I've had it on my mental to-do list to look into
the possibility of arranging something for C4L beyond the Thursday
canned tour. Now that you've reminded me, I'd be happy to ask for you
if you would like me to. I'm not sure what might be possible for
seeing things behind the
On 18 January 2013, Linda Ballinger wrote:
As a Newberry inmate, I've had it on my mental to-do list to look into
the possibility of arranging something for C4L beyond the Thursday
canned tour. Now that you've reminded me, I'd be happy to ask for you
if you would like me to. I'm not sure what
Bill, I realize that. That's opt-out, and anyone new to IRC is not going
to know that. So I am asking for the opposite, which may not be a
current feature of IRC, but that those who wish to see Zoia's replies
(and who therefore know about Zoia) should opt-in.
Another option is a separate
... and BTW, if people see Zoia as a bit of a problem during the
conference, doesn't that mean that Zoia is a bit of a problem all of the
time? Is there a reason to be polite and inclusive during the conference
but not every day? Could this have any relation to the felt need to
create
Karen, I don't think there's any way we could do that. zoia is just another
participant in the channel, just like you or I would be, so it's exactly like
interacting with another person.
And one thing that I think is *somewhat* important to note before we give zoia
the bum's rush or something
On 18 January 2013, Karen Coyle wrote:
Bill, I realize that. That's opt-out, and anyone new to IRC is not going to
know that. So I am asking for the opposite, which may not be a current
feature of IRC, but that those who wish to see Zoia's replies (and who
therefore know about Zoia) should
Just because zoia has always been there (or panizzi) doesn't mean zoia
ought to be there going forward. Karen's point I think deserves
consideration. If zoia is in violation of the Code of Conduct, then
remedial action is warranted. I think in this case, rather then getting rid
of the bot, we can
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Devon dec...@gmail.com wrote:
If zoia is in violation of the Code of Conduct, then
remedial action is warranted. I think in this case, rather then getting rid
of the bot, we can just remove the offending plugins.
+1
On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Devon dec...@gmail.com wrote:
Just because zoia has always been there (or panizzi) doesn't mean zoia
ought to be there going forward. Karen's point I think deserves
consideration. If zoia is in violation of the Code of Conduct, then
remedial action is warranted.
On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote:
The offensive and/or annoying plugins don't serve any real purpose besides
entertainment value. I would much rather cut them away (we've done it plenty
of times in the past: jive, markov, etc.) then ditch the bot
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
... and BTW, if people see Zoia as a bit of a problem during the conference,
doesn't that mean that Zoia is a bit of a problem all of the time? Is there
a reason to be polite and inclusive during the conference but not every
On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Devon dec...@gmail.com wrote:
If zoia is in violation of the Code of Conduct, then
remedial action is warranted. I think in this case, rather then getting rid
of the bot, we can just
Actually, I find the playing with Zoia itself offensive. As per my
response to my own message.
It objectifies women. Treats them as play-things. Makes me very
uncomfortable. If we want to have an information bot, perhaps like the
one used by W3C which takes minutes for meetings (Zakim, I
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Actually, I find the playing with Zoia itself offensive. As per my
response to my own message.
It objectifies women. Treats them as play-things. Makes me very
uncomfortable.
I think you're reading too much into Zoia's
On 13-01-18 10:26 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Actually, I find the playing with Zoia itself offensive. As per my
response to my own message.
It objectifies women. Treats them as play-things. Makes me very
uncomfortable. If we want to have an information bot, perhaps like the
one
Yes, I believe zoia was named as a tribute to Zoia Horn, FWIW.
-Mike
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Actually, I find the playing with Zoia itself offensive. As per my
response
+1
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Misty De Meo
misty.de@museumforhumanrights.ca wrote:
On 13-01-18 10:26 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Actually, I find the playing with Zoia itself offensive. As per my
response to my own message.
It objectifies women. Treats them as
On 1/18/13 8:46 AM, Misty De Meo wrote
I would strongly disagree with this point. As a code4lib newbie a year
ago, I found that zoia was a kind of participatory in-joke that made it
*easier* for me to acclimatize to the culture of the room. I became
comfortable more quickly thanks to zoia.
The
Salvete!
Code4Lib's female bot Zoia beats Koha's male bot Wahanui any day of the
week.
I have to say, when I first saw this thread rev up, I thought Heavens!
What are those ruffians teaching my darling girl?! I think I've witnessed
irreverent quips from time to time, but I don't think
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Michael J. Giarlo
leftw...@alumni.rutgers.edu wrote:
Yes, I believe zoia was named as a tribute to Zoia Horn, FWIW.
I did name zoia as a tribute to Zoia Horn. My copy of *ZOIA! Memoirs of
Zoia Horn, Battler for the People’s Right to Know* holds a special
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Gabriel Farrell gsf...@gmail.com wrote:
I've also been working on a new IRC bot framework in node.js called n0d3 (
https://github.com/gsf/n0d3).
... How exactly do you pronounce that?
You need a plugin to pronounce that.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.eduwrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Gabriel Farrell gsf...@gmail.com
wrote:
I've also been working on a new IRC bot framework in node.js called n0d3
(
On Friday, January 18, 2013, Gabriel Farrell wrote:
I've also been working on a new IRC bot framework in node.js called n0d3 (
https://github.com/gsf/n0d3). I introduced emerac to #code4lib as a hubot
a
year or so ago, and was planning to reintroduce it as an n0d3 bot at some
point. Could
FWIW, there are a few zoia commands I've noticed that could come across
as sexist (especially if you see Zoia as being a female bot).
I don't think they are used that frequently, but I have seen:
@poledance (have zoia display a poledancer)
@euph (have zoia respond in a euphemism)
This isn't
+1 for renaming @poledance to @rsinger.
On Friday, January 18, 2013, Tim Donohue wrote:
FWIW, there are a few zoia commands I've noticed that could come across as
sexist (especially if you see Zoia as being a female bot).
I don't think they are used that frequently, but I have seen:
It also sounds like our channel @helpers and the @help command could help
by spreading the word about /ignore. If you like the #code4lib experience
and find Zoia annoying, please do yourself a favor and /ignore zoia so you
don't have to miss out.
-Mike
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Jay
I think there has been general consensus that there are some offensive
plugins and that the bot should be held to the same level we expect
from a person, but noone (yet) has stepped up to volunteer to go
through all that's available and make an effort at cleaning things up.
As we all know, things
On 1/17/13 5:55 PM, Doran, Michael D wrote:
Okay, I promise that this is my last take on the topic:
[cid:image001.png@01CDF4D2.0B32A3B0]
Yes that *is* Roy wailing on guitar.
Full resolution available from here: http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/oclc/
Admittedly a crude job,
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jay Luker lb...@reallywow.com wrote:
On Friday, January 18, 2013, Gabriel Farrell wrote:
I've also been working on a new IRC bot framework in node.js called n0d3
(
https://github.com/gsf/n0d3). I introduced emerac to #code4lib as a
hubot a
year or so
Hey guys,
I hope I'll be forgiven for making what is essentially a commercial post
-- it is just that the subject matter is so much inspired by our work
with library developers, I'd feel like a chump not to mention it.
Apologies, then; I will keep it short.
Basically, we've launched a service
I've seen the inside of this tech, and I have to say it is really neat and
useful. This is a nice tool to have in your toolbox if you want to build
machine APIs to systems that don't have machine APIs: Wikipedia, arXiv,
CiteSeer, etc.
Peter
/me was not paid for this endorsement.
On Jan
Is it the plugins themselves or the content? I suspect that some plugins
lend themselves to more joking around and possible inappropriateness,
but I'm not sure that it's plugin problem, perhaps its a user error.
kc
On 1/18/13 10:17 AM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote:
I think there has been general
On 1/18/13 10:38 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
... and BTW, if people see Zoia as a bit of a problem during the
conference, doesn't that mean that Zoia is a bit of a problem all of the
time?
Yes.
Is there a reason to be polite and inclusive during the conference
but not every day?
FWIW, I am both an active #libtechwomen participant and someone who is so
thoroughly charmed by zoia I am frequently bothered she isn't right there
*in my real life*. (Yes, I have tried to issue zoia commands during
face-to-face conversations with non-Code4Libbers.)
I think a collaboratively
Systems Support Specialist needed to participate in
operation of servers, networks and software for the North Of Boston Library
Exchange (NOBLE) in Danvers. Operate and
update servers, troubleshoot issues, file bug reports, working with NOBLE
staff, staff of other networks, system vendors and the
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Is it the plugins themselves or the content? I suspect that some plugins
lend themselves to more joking around and possible inappropriateness, but
I'm not sure that it's plugin problem, perhaps its a user error.
I seem to be
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Andromeda Yelton
andromeda.yel...@gmail.com wrote:
But not having zoia would make me sad. And defining zoia to be
woman-unfriendly, when zoia-lovers and zoia-haters appear to span the
gender spectrum and have a variety of reasons (both gendered and non) for
Merged #4. --ay
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Nick Ruest rue...@gmail.com wrote:
Starting the work.
Remove poledance and euph: https://github.com/code4lib/**
supybot-plugins/pull/4https://github.com/code4lib/supybot-plugins/pull/4
-nruest
On 13-01-18 01:17 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote:
I'm looking at the supybot code in c4l's github and don't see @mf here
in any of the three folders. Can you say what it does?
Thanks,
kc
On 1/18/13 11:46 AM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Is it the plugins themselves or the
@mf just returns a large ASCII image of a hand flicking the bird (or
what do the kids call it nowadays?) That is, sticking up its middle
finger.
Kevin
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
I'm looking at the supybot code in c4l's github and don't see @mf here in
Have some more.
https://github.com/code4lib/supybot-plugins/pull/5
-nruest
On 13-01-18 02:56 PM, Andromeda Yelton wrote:
Merged #4. --ay
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Nick Ruest rue...@gmail.com wrote:
Starting the work.
Remove poledance and euph: https://github.com/code4lib/**
(with apologies for cross-posting)
The Open Discovery Initiative (ODI), a volunteer work group within the
National Information Standards Organization (NISO), was formed to develop a
recommended practice related to the index-based discovery services for
libraries. The ODI aims to investigate and
I personally regard the IRC channel as a particular flavor of c4l, rather
than the primary flavor. For example, this discussion is happening on the
mailing list and not in the IRC channel. I'd say IRC is one of the main
flavors, but I'm not sure I would call anything primary. I really like
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