Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis)

2014-08-17 Thread Kyle Banerjee
You need to cut holes so you can see -- I should have mentioned that. Be
sure to wear sunglasses to confound remote retinal scanners...


On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:

 I tried a paper bag, but it was very hard to find books.


 On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jason Bengtson j.bengtson...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
   ...
  
   Generally speaking, I think  surveillance is wretched stuff. But there
  is a
   point at which the hand wringing becomes a bit much. I agree with Jon
 in
   that, while things are at a critical point, the technologies of
 security
   and anonymity will inevitable improve. In fact, the cruddy state of
  things
   has been adding momentum to that progress...
  
 
  And there are always the tried and tested technologies that have been
  around for ages. For example, if users wore paper bags over their heads,
 it
  would protect their anonymity and afford some privacy while they used
  resources in the library -- particularly when they need assistance.
   Anonymous checkout privileges secured with a bitcoin deposit could
 ensure
  accountability.
 
  As things stand, many if not most library staff know all kinds of things
  about their users. The paper bag solution (actually another material
 should
  be chosen to make it safer for smokers) is a major step towards
 rectifying
  this privacy and service issue. ;-)
 



 --
 Cary Gordon
 The Cherry Hill Company
 http://chillco.com



Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis)

2014-08-17 Thread Riley Childs
Maybe you need a cloak of invisibility

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Cary Gordonmailto:listu...@chillco.com
Sent: ‎8/‎16/‎2014 5:00 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDUmailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by 
AddThis)

I tried a paper bag, but it was very hard to find books.


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jason Bengtson j.bengtson...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  ...
 
  Generally speaking, I think  surveillance is wretched stuff. But there
 is a
  point at which the hand wringing becomes a bit much. I agree with Jon in
  that, while things are at a critical point, the technologies of security
  and anonymity will inevitable improve. In fact, the cruddy state of
 things
  has been adding momentum to that progress...
 

 And there are always the tried and tested technologies that have been
 around for ages. For example, if users wore paper bags over their heads, it
 would protect their anonymity and afford some privacy while they used
 resources in the library -- particularly when they need assistance.
  Anonymous checkout privileges secured with a bitcoin deposit could ensure
 accountability.

 As things stand, many if not most library staff know all kinds of things
 about their users. The paper bag solution (actually another material should
 be chosen to make it safer for smokers) is a major step towards rectifying
 this privacy and service issue. ;-)




--
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com


Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis)

2014-08-17 Thread Riley Childs
I would like to note, roy4lib uses addthis... ;)

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Kyle Banerjeemailto:kyle.baner...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎8/‎17/‎2014 2:16 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDUmailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by 
AddThis)

You need to cut holes so you can see -- I should have mentioned that. Be
sure to wear sunglasses to confound remote retinal scanners...


On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:

 I tried a paper bag, but it was very hard to find books.


 On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jason Bengtson j.bengtson...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
   ...
  
   Generally speaking, I think  surveillance is wretched stuff. But there
  is a
   point at which the hand wringing becomes a bit much. I agree with Jon
 in
   that, while things are at a critical point, the technologies of
 security
   and anonymity will inevitable improve. In fact, the cruddy state of
  things
   has been adding momentum to that progress...
  
 
  And there are always the tried and tested technologies that have been
  around for ages. For example, if users wore paper bags over their heads,
 it
  would protect their anonymity and afford some privacy while they used
  resources in the library -- particularly when they need assistance.
   Anonymous checkout privileges secured with a bitcoin deposit could
 ensure
  accountability.
 
  As things stand, many if not most library staff know all kinds of things
  about their users. The paper bag solution (actually another material
 should
  be chosen to make it safer for smokers) is a major step towards
 rectifying
  this privacy and service issue. ;-)
 



 --
 Cary Gordon
 The Cherry Hill Company
 http://chillco.com



Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis)

2014-08-17 Thread Debra Shapiro
Conversation between 2 instructional staff at a library school:

Staff 1, “Say, I went down to our departmental library, and had to use the 
little paper slip to take out a book, because it’s summer and after hours. You 
have to fill in the book title, book bar code, and your own name  ID barcode. 
The fold the paper in half and stick it in a box. It’s got a little disclaimer 
on the bottom that the slip of paper will be destroyed as soon as the infor is 
entered into the system.”

Staff 2, “That’s adorable.”




On Aug 15, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Jason Bengtson j.bengtson...@gmail.com wrote:

 Generally speaking, I think  surveillance is wretched stuff. But there is a
 point at which the hand wringing becomes a bit much. 

dsshap...@wisc.edu
Debra Shapiro
UW-Madison SLIS
Helen C. White Hall, Rm. 4282
600 N. Park St.
Madison WI 53706
608 262 9195
mobile 608 712 6368
FAX 608 263 4849


Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis)

2014-08-17 Thread Karen Coyle
:-) Well, I don't know that I would use the word adorable, but it does 
warm my heart.


I found, to my pleasure, that libraries were shredding the paper 
computer sign-up sheets every evening (or when they filled up). That was 
good. But then I found, to my displeasure, that they had a box on the 
table in the childrens' room where summer reading program kids wrote 
their name, school, and age, and that the box was not secured in any way 
from scrutiny by others. Gulp! So it's a mixed bag in most libraries. 
Plus, there's always a hoarder or two who will not get rid of obsolete 
records. One value of an audit is that timely record destruction becomes 
a *policy*.


kc


On 8/17/14, 11:54 AM, Debra Shapiro wrote:

Conversation between 2 instructional staff at a library school:

Staff 1, “Say, I went down to our departmental library, and had to use the little 
paper slip to take out a book, because it’s summer and after hours. You have to 
fill in the book title, book bar code, and your own name  ID barcode. The fold 
the paper in half and stick it in a box. It’s got a little disclaimer on the bottom 
that the slip of paper will be destroyed as soon as the infor is entered into the 
system.”

Staff 2, “That’s adorable.”




On Aug 15, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Jason Bengtson j.bengtson...@gmail.com wrote:


Generally speaking, I think  surveillance is wretched stuff. But there is a
point at which the hand wringing becomes a bit much.

dsshap...@wisc.edu
Debra Shapiro
UW-Madison SLIS
Helen C. White Hall, Rm. 4282
600 N. Park St.
Madison WI 53706
608 262 9195
mobile 608 712 6368
FAX 608 263 4849


--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: +1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600