Re: [CODE4LIB] Heroku

2016-06-07 Thread Andromeda Yelton
I'm a freelance software developer not embedded in a library, but I use Heroku routinely to host apps I'm developing for fun, or as a testing site, and one of my clients deploys its production app on Heroku. It took me a while to wrap my head around, but I love it to little tiny pieces (and once

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Salazar, Christina < christina.sala...@csuci.edu> wrote: > Having gone to C4L in 2007 in Athens, when it was I think 150 people (ha! > Let's be honest: 145 men and 5 women) and then again in 2015 in Portland > and 2014 in Raleigh, the Code 4 Lib that once was is no

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Morgan McKeehan
I’ve been wondering if Code4Lib could consider applying for membership + fiscal sponsorship through Fractured Atlas, which is a non-profit that provides fiscal sponsorship for non-commercial arts (/cultural sector?) organizations that do not have 501 c 3 status. Here’s their page about fiscal

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Chris Moschini
Having been through something like this in the past that went very badly, a small bit of advice: If the impetus for forming a company is protection from liability for the Annual Conference, form it solely for that purpose. Leaving it open-ended will bring in everyone's ideas. Many of them will

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Salazar, Christina
I want to boost Terry's thread as well. Having gone to C4L in 2007 in Athens, when it was I think 150 people (ha! Let's be honest: 145 men and 5 women) and then again in 2015 in Portland and 2014 in Raleigh, the Code 4 Lib that once was is no more. Long live Code4Lib. If we continue to want a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Edward M. Corrado
Thanks for the information Peter (and best of luck at Index Data). Edward On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Peter Murray wrote: > I did look at this while I was at LYRASIS a few years ago. (I'm now at > Cherry Hill -- soon to be at Index Data -- http://dltj.org/p27236 ). At >

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Ruth Tillman
I also am unsure, Eric, how you imagine we could have a "smaller" annual meeting. Clearly the community wants to go. It is large. Tickets sell out quickly. I couldn't have gotten a ticket for this year's even if I had not been in the process of moving to Notre Dame and thus between funding,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Shirley Lincicum
+1 Terry Shirley On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Terry Reese wrote: > >> Fiscal agents are ultimately responsible for the contracts they are > >> going to be signing. In the case of this conference, that is easily > well over $200K. > > I think that this is the first

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Peter Murray
I did look at this while I was at LYRASIS a few years ago. (I'm now at Cherry Hill -- soon to be at Index Data -- http://dltj.org/p27236 ). At the time they had an "association management" division that did this sort of thing. They disbanded that division before I left, but they are under

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Nate Hill
Fwiw over here at the Metropolitan New York Library Council we might be able to help from an organizational perspective. I'd certainly be open to the idea. Not sure exactly what it means though. Nate On Tuesday, June 7, 2016, Coral Sheldon-Hess wrote: > I think this

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Terry Reese
>> Fiscal agents are ultimately responsible for the contracts they are >> going to be signing. In the case of this conference, that is easily well >> over $200K. I think that this is the first pertinent question for the community to decide. The conference wasn't always this big, this

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Ruth Tillman
++ to Tom on this as I see a tremendous emotional and bureaucratic expense every year for the organizing committee (or at least the last 2, where I've paid attention to it). It is certainly distributed in different locales who are hosting, but it already exists. I don't think we can deny that it's

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Salazar, Christina
In an effort to um... help this conversation, I think it's useful to think about the fiduciary agent issue as being separate from formalizing Code4Lib as a whole. Please, please, please don't let our reluctance to be organized kill the idea that we're proposing of reintroducing some sort of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Joshua Klingbeil
I'm pretty new to C4L, mostly just an evesdropper. Sounds though what the group is looking for is to form a lightweight as possible NGO / Non Profit style entity that can operate as an organization independent of its constituent parts for purposes of liability. A business law expert, more

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Coral Sheldon-Hess
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: > On Jun 7, 2016, at 10:53 PM, Mike Giarlo wrote: > > > > > Can you say more about what you expect "the emotional and bureaucratic > expense" to be? > > Bureaucratic and emotional expenses include

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Andromeda Yelton
Eric, I agree that I wouldn't want to have an organization that existed to govern all things Code4lib - but I don't think that's what's on the table here. What I'm hearing is a call for a persistent entity that can do things like sign contracts and hold funds from year to year, pursuant to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Chad Nelson
I would take issue with the idea that "an existing library non-profit might be able to do this without that much overhead." I think that we, as a community, severely underestimate the amount of work it takes to coordinate a conference like ours. Fiscal agents are ultimately responsible for the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Angela Galvan
> The inside will make decisions and the outside won’t understand and feel left out. This happens in all groups at a certain size, regardless of their structure or organizational mechanism. > Somebody will always come forward. It will just happen. That's a faith I wish I shared. The liability

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Jun 7, 2016, at 10:53 PM, Mike Giarlo wrote: >>> I'm also interested in investigating how to formalize Code4Lib as an >>> entity, for all of the reasons listed earlier in the thread… >> >> -1 because I don’t think the benefits will outweigh the emotional and >>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Lynch, Katherine E
Would be interested to know this too — from my role and perspective in the 2016 conference, the fiscal organization’s responsibility is a big one, but the overhead of securing one every year is a lot more work, emotional and bureaucratic, than having an established one would be. I would

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Kudzia, Megan
++ Tom – I think the Code4LibConDocs efforts have been an attempt to remediate that somewhat. However, from my perspective, it really makes clear how difficult this process is, and how much we’re all asking of the really small number of our colleagues who volunteer (!) to take on this task

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Tom Johnson
> Can you say more about what you expect "the emotional and bureaucratic expense" to be? And especially, how it doesn't just reflect the existing costs of running the conferences? Do we really believe there is overhead associated with establishing a fiscal organization once, rather than doing it

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Dunn, Jon William Butcher
Another example to look at is Open Repositories, which entered into an MOU with CLIR last year to serve as "financial sponsor" for the OR conference series. In this model, CLIR does not bear the financial risk of the annual conference but essentially serves as a banker for any surplus

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Mike Giarlo
Can you say more about what you expect "the emotional and bureaucratic expense" to be? -Mike From: Code for Libraries on behalf of Eric Lease Morgan Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 13:49 To:

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
> I'm also interested in investigating how to formalize Code4Lib as an > entity, for all of the reasons listed earlier in the thread… -1 because I don’t think the benefits will outweigh the emotional and bureaucratic expense. We already have enough rules. — ELM

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread LeVan,Ralph
We are establishing a relationship with the DLF for email purposes. Might they be willing to be our organization? Ralph -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Esmé Cowles Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 3:41 PM To:

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Edward M. Corrado
At one point Lyrasis offered to do this when Peter Murray was there. I don't remeber to what degree this was investigated but at the time the community generally wasn't in favor. I have no idea if Lyrasis would be interested (and Peter is now elsewhere, I believe) but it might be somethign to look

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Esmé Cowles
I don't think there is any Hydra legal entity (hence the need for a financial host), and the MOU is signed on behalf of the leadership committee. So I think it boils down to being organized enough for the financial host to be comfortable entering into an agreement with them. I can ask the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Update Regarding C4L17 in Chattanooga

2016-06-07 Thread Shearer, Timothy
+1 This is a big deal. And one that has no great outcome. Y'all deserve the appreciation and thanks of the community. You certainly have mine. Tim >My thanks to the Tennessee folks for handling this with such grace.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Jenn C
This sounds like an intriguing option. What is "Hydra" that it is able to enter into an MOU - is the steering group an incorporated entity? On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Esmé Cowles wrote: > I remember another option being brought up: picking an official >

[CODE4LIB] Chat bot

2016-06-07 Thread Jeffrey Sabol
Greetings, Has anybody created a chat bot to answer basic questions (what are the hours, how many books can I check out) for the Library's chat reference service? If so would you be willing to share your code? I have just started to explore this so any direction or resources would be of help.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Update Regarding C4L17 in Chattanooga

2016-06-07 Thread Tom Johnson
My thanks to the Tennessee folks for handling this with such grace. I can recall with visceral physicality the feeling of staring at the budget commitments for 2015, in the days before registration opened. It's a deep pit we dig ourselves into each year; and it's great that we reliably refill it,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Tom Johnson
Thanks Carol! And +1. Apart from any concern for the the relative benefits or pitfalls of any kind of *-ocracy, it seems abundantly clear that in order to continue to hold a large scale national conference each year we need someone to "do" a stable fiscal agent for that purpose. It would be wise

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Esmé Cowles
I remember another option being brought up: picking an official organizational home for C4L that would handle being the financial host for the conference, and possibly other things (conference carryover, scholarship fundraising, holding intellectual property, etc.). An existing library

[CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?

2016-06-07 Thread Coral Sheldon-Hess
I think this deserves its own thread--thanks for bringing it up, Christina! I'm also interested in investigating how to formalize Code4Lib as an entity, for all of the reasons listed earlier in the thread. I can't volunteer to be the leader/torch-bearer/main source of energy behind the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Update Regarding C4L17 in Chattanooga

2016-06-07 Thread Coral Sheldon-Hess
This can't have been an easy decision. Thank you, to the Chattanooga local committee, for all of the work you've already put in -- much of which will be, sadly, even more invisible, now that we are not holding the conference there. I'm not sad that we aren't holding the conference in

[CODE4LIB] Library Juice Academy courses offered in and July, August, and September

2016-06-07 Thread Rory Litwin
Library Juice Academy courses offered in and July, August, and September Apologies for cross-posting. Please share as appropriate. Most of the classes listed below are four weeks in length, with a price of $175. We accept registrations through the first week of class (unless they are full).

Re: [CODE4LIB] Public Computers

2016-06-07 Thread Joshua Klingbeil
Hi John, Nice to see a fellow Wisconsinite on here! Many of the libraries in the WVLS system do just what you're thinking about doing. That is, they utilize Deep Freeze to maintain systems' states but also utilize fairly open configs for patron computers. Standard local user accounts vs admin

Re: [CODE4LIB] viaf and the levenshtein algorithm

2016-06-07 Thread P. S. Mukhopadhyay
Congrats Eric Lease Morgan. A real eye opener for me. Best wishes On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:18 PM, McAulay, Lisa wrote: > Hi Eric, > > I really enjoyed this message. Thanks for sharing! > > Best, > Lisa > > > On Jun 7, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Eric Lease Morgan

Re: [CODE4LIB] Update Regarding C4L17 in Chattanooga

2016-06-07 Thread Schurr, Andrea
Not only quite difficult, but fiscally irresponsible... We'd be asking an organization unaffiliated with Code4Lib to guarantee contracts for hundreds of thousands of dollars -- when there is a legitimate concern that Tennessee could pass legislation that would cause almost half of our

Re: [CODE4LIB] Update Regarding C4L17 in Chattanooga

2016-06-07 Thread Brian Rogers
It is a confluence of considerations, rather than a question of percentage.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Update Regarding C4L17 in Chattanooga

2016-06-07 Thread Collier, Aaron
I would guess that the swing between "current" and "if passed" makes securing the financial sponsor quite difficult. -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Matt Sherman Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:20 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU

Re: [CODE4LIB] Update Regarding C4L17 in Chattanooga

2016-06-07 Thread Matt Sherman
Just listening in, part of the discussion on Slack and IRC made it sound like the financing was the bigger issue. On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Matt Connolly wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Brian Rogers > > wrote: > >

[CODE4LIB] Public Computers

2016-06-07 Thread John Klima
This is cross-posted on LITA-L. Apologies if you're seeing this twice. We're in the process of making some updates to our public computers and I thought I would survey the crowd to see what people are doing to lock up access to the 'guts' of the computer. The computers are all running Windows

Re: [CODE4LIB] Update Regarding C4L17 in Chattanooga

2016-06-07 Thread Matt Connolly
On Jun 7, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Brian Rogers > wrote: We’ve determined that given this community’s commitment to providing a safe and accommodating environment for all attendees, it is morally and fiscally irresponsible to continue the effort of

Re: [CODE4LIB] viaf and the levenshtein algorithm

2016-06-07 Thread McAulay, Lisa
Hi Eric, I really enjoyed this message. Thanks for sharing! Best, Lisa > On Jun 7, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: > > In the past few weeks I have had some interesting experiences with WorldCat, > VIAF, and the Levenshtein algorithm. [1, 2] > > In short, I was

Re: [CODE4LIB] Update Regarding C4L17 in Chattanooga

2016-06-07 Thread Salazar, Christina
It's probably too late for a 2017 but I really do think it's time to reopen the question of formalizing Code4Lib IF ONLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF BEING THE FIDUCIARY AGENT for the annual conference. Local (and national) politics aside, it's very difficult to stand in front of your boss (or worse, a

[CODE4LIB] Update Regarding C4L17 in Chattanooga

2016-06-07 Thread Brian Rogers
Greetings from the Chattanooga C4L17 Planning Committee: This is a follow-up to Andrea Schurr’s May 18th email (https://goo.gl/bs2au7) regarding the survey around potential impact on attendance of the 2017 Code4Lib conference, given the host of discriminatory/concerning legislation in

[CODE4LIB] Job: Content Manager in a non-library position at Analog Devices

2016-06-07 Thread jobs
Content Manager in a non-library position Analog Devices Wilmington Sales Teams Library Content Manager HR Title: Sales Enablement Program Specialist: Job ID 160999 Description Being organized and ensuring that the sales enablement platform is predictably delivering the correct content

[CODE4LIB] Job: Data Services Librarian at University of Maryland, College Park

2016-06-07 Thread jobs
Data Services Librarian University of Maryland, College Park College Park **Title:**Data Services Librarian **Category: **Librarian (Open Rank) **Department: **Digital Programs and Initiatives **Benefits:**22 Days Annual Leave, 15 Days of Sick Leave, 3 Days Personal Leave, 15 Paid Holidays

[CODE4LIB] OPF webinar: Pre Commercial Procurement for the long-term Preservation of Digital Cultural Heritage, 14 June

2016-06-07 Thread Becky McGuinness
*apologies for cross-posting* OPF webinar: Pre Commercial Procurement for the long-term Preservation of Digital Cultural Heritage Tuesday 14 June Programme: 1. Background and context, Börje Justrell (10 mins) 2. The PCP/PPI instrument and how it is implemented in PREFORMA, Antonella Fresa (10

[CODE4LIB] viaf and the levenshtein algorithm

2016-06-07 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
In the past few weeks I have had some interesting experiences with WorldCat, VIAF, and the Levenshtein algorithm. [1, 2] In short, I was given a set of authority records with the goal of associating each name with a VIAF identifier. To accomplish this goal I first created a rudimentary

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib mailing list [dlf]

2016-06-07 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On May 12, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: >> Alas, the Code4Lib mailing list software will most likely need to be >> migrated before the end of summer, and I’m proposing a number possible >> options for the lists continued existence... > > Our list — Code4Lib —