[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib North: Car pooling from Brock residences to downtown

2015-06-01 Thread David Fiander
I'm staying at Brock for C4LN this week, but I won't have a car with me, 
so who's going to be around that I could catch a ride with downtown?


- David


[CODE4LIB] Something is messed up with the code4lib wiki main page

2015-02-26 Thread David Fiander
The main page (http://wiki.code4lib.org/Main_Page) is displaying as 
blank, and the history does not indicate any changes that would cause it 
to be so. In fact, the history for EARLIER changes (eg, my change to 
remove the new! text from the link to C4LN) are not displaying 
properly in the diffs.


So, I suspect that something is scrambled.

- David


Re: [CODE4LIB] Anybody using the Open Library APIs?

2013-01-22 Thread David Fiander
Ross,

You can do it, but it's a two-step process. The RESTful API will give you
the book information based on the ISBN, and that book information has the
work key in it. So you can then fetch the work details with all the ISBNs
in it, but it's not pretty.

- David
 On Jan 22, 2013 12:57 PM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jan 21, 2013, at 8:04 PM, David Fiander da...@fiander.info wrote:
  The documentation for the APIs is weak, and it looks like it hasn't been
  updated for a while. Has anybody used them much, or know what the state
 of
  ongoing development of them is?

 I am pretty sure that there is no ongoing development of Open Library.
  Others may be able to provide more details.
 
  All I'm really looking for at this point is a way to convert an ISBN into
  basic bibliographic data, and to find any related ISBNs, a la OCLC's
 xISBN
  service.

 You can't do this via the API, because there's no way to search for
 work_id (at least none that I'm aware of).  I was running an xISBN clone
 with the OL data, but it stopped working when Talis shut down the
 Platform...

 The dataset isn't that large, however.  It may be worthwhile to download
 it and create your own xisbn style services.  It might be even better to
 hack up something at Code4lib13 (or, elsewhere) to take the monthly dumps
 and create a similar service.  I imagine you're not alone in wanting this.

 -Ross.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Anybody using the Open Library APIs?

2013-01-22 Thread David Fiander
Karen,

Thanks for the details. Like I said, this is for a research project. So,
while I don't need more than 1,000 requests / day right now, given the
current size of my dataset, it will grow larger in the future. But that
means I can start programming and testing without the affiliate ID, and
then once I've got one, I can stop worrying about getting throttled right
when things are getting exciting.

- David
 On Jan 22, 2013 1:07 PM, Karen Coombs librarywebc...@gmail.com wrote:

 So the xISBN service will give you the workset and basic metadata about
 each item in that workset.


 http://xisbn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/isbn/0596002815?method=getEditionsformat=xmlfl=*

 You can get 1000 request/day without even having to get an affiliate ID.

 Another possibility is the inline Schema.org markup in WorldCat.org.

 You can link into WorldCat by ISBN -
 http://www.worldcat.org/isbn/0451462645

 Basic metadata is there in RDFa. There is actually a little demo
 bookmarklet which grabs the metadata from a Schema.org encoded page and
 sends it over so it can be added to Goodreads. -
 http://www.oclc.org/developer/prototypes/schemaorg-markup-extractor

 I think the WorldCat.org option is better because it is a little closer to
 getting work level metadata.

 Karen


 On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Jan 21, 2013, at 8:04 PM, David Fiander da...@fiander.info wrote:
   The documentation for the APIs is weak, and it looks like it hasn't
 been
   updated for a while. Has anybody used them much, or know what the state
  of
   ongoing development of them is?
 
  I am pretty sure that there is no ongoing development of Open Library.
   Others may be able to provide more details.
  
   All I'm really looking for at this point is a way to convert an ISBN
 into
   basic bibliographic data, and to find any related ISBNs, a la OCLC's
  xISBN
   service.
 
  You can't do this via the API, because there's no way to search for
  work_id (at least none that I'm aware of).  I was running an xISBN clone
  with the OL data, but it stopped working when Talis shut down the
  Platform...
 
  The dataset isn't that large, however.  It may be worthwhile to download
  it and create your own xisbn style services.  It might be even better to
  hack up something at Code4lib13 (or, elsewhere) to take the monthly dumps
  and create a similar service.  I imagine you're not alone in wanting
 this.
 
  -Ross.



Re: [CODE4LIB] Anybody using the Open Library APIs?

2013-01-22 Thread David Fiander
Oh, we're cataloguing members. And the head of tech services has already
emailed out contact about what needs to happen for me to get hooked up.


On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Karen Coombs librarywebc...@gmail.comwrote:

 So when you need a higher level of access you'll have to fill out an xISBN
 request and have your eligibility verified. Your library has to be a
 cataloging member to get the higher level of access but we can tweak the
 usage based on your needs if you're eligible.

 Karen


 On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, David Fiander da...@fiander.info wrote:

  Karen,
 
  Thanks for the details. Like I said, this is for a research project. So,
  while I don't need more than 1,000 requests / day right now, given the
  current size of my dataset, it will grow larger in the future. But that
  means I can start programming and testing without the affiliate ID, and
  then once I've got one, I can stop worrying about getting throttled right
  when things are getting exciting.
 
  - David
   On Jan 22, 2013 1:07 PM, Karen Coombs librarywebc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   So the xISBN service will give you the workset and basic metadata about
   each item in that workset.
  
  
  
 
 http://xisbn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/isbn/0596002815?method=getEditionsformat=xmlfl=*
  
   You can get 1000 request/day without even having to get an affiliate
 ID.
  
   Another possibility is the inline Schema.org markup in WorldCat.org.
  
   You can link into WorldCat by ISBN -
   http://www.worldcat.org/isbn/0451462645
  
   Basic metadata is there in RDFa. There is actually a little demo
   bookmarklet which grabs the metadata from a Schema.org encoded page and
   sends it over so it can be added to Goodreads. -
   http://www.oclc.org/developer/prototypes/schemaorg-markup-extractor
  
   I think the WorldCat.org option is better because it is a little closer
  to
   getting work level metadata.
  
   Karen
  
  
   On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
On Jan 21, 2013, at 8:04 PM, David Fiander da...@fiander.info
 wrote:
 The documentation for the APIs is weak, and it looks like it hasn't
   been
 updated for a while. Has anybody used them much, or know what the
  state
of
 ongoing development of them is?
   
I am pretty sure that there is no ongoing development of Open
 Library.
 Others may be able to provide more details.

 All I'm really looking for at this point is a way to convert an
 ISBN
   into
 basic bibliographic data, and to find any related ISBNs, a la
 OCLC's
xISBN
 service.
   
You can't do this via the API, because there's no way to search for
work_id (at least none that I'm aware of).  I was running an xISBN
  clone
with the OL data, but it stopped working when Talis shut down the
Platform...
   
The dataset isn't that large, however.  It may be worthwhile to
  download
it and create your own xisbn style services.  It might be even better
  to
hack up something at Code4lib13 (or, elsewhere) to take the monthly
  dumps
and create a similar service.  I imagine you're not alone in wanting
   this.
   
-Ross.
  
 



Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Gender Survey

2012-11-28 Thread David Fiander
This just sounds like you don't care about counting the gender variant
members of the community.


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Rosalyn Metz rosalynm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm going to leave it as is for now, let's think of this as a first draft.
 As I think I said to the list (not sure because lots of people have
 contacted me directly) I'd hate to change it now because that'd just make
 the first half of the answers useless/inconsistent/different than the rest.

 Next time around we can add in an other option. Sound good?
 On Nov 27, 2012 4:22 PM, Gabriel Farrell gsf...@gmail.com wrote:

  Great first step, Rosalyn. Could we include an other for those in the
  community that may not be covered by the gender binary?
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   I'm pretty sure I said if you're unsure which means maybe you've
 never
   thought about it or not really clear as to what 'part of the community'
   means.
  
   I mean, I'm not trying to annex the unsuspecting or anything.
  
   -Ross.
  
   On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke rand...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
Um, no.  Anyone who takes the survey has to have gotten the incoming
  link
from somewhere.  This listserv is the most likely source.  So, by
 your
definition almost anyone with the URL for the survey is a community
member.
   
Self-defining as part of the community is about how people see their
   role.
Otherwise the survey could just list all those things you said and
 ask
  if
the person did them.
   
-Wilhelmina Randtke
   
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
To second Rosy's point, if you are unsure if you are 'part of the
community' and you can answer yes to any of the following questions,
  you
absolutely can say 'yes' in the survey:
   
You are on the CODE4LIB mailing list
You have attended a Code4Lib conference
You have submitted to a CfP to a Code4Lib conference
You tried to attend a Code4Lib conference but didn't register in
 time
You have a registered account on code4lib.org
You have a registered account on wiki.code4lib.org
You have submitted to or read the Code4lib journal
You follow planet.code4lib.org
You have been in the #code4lib IRC channel
   
What I'm saying is that Code4Lib's community takes a lot of forms,
   don't
feel you need to be a regular in the IRC channel or something.
   
-Ross.
   
On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Rosalyn Metz rosalynm...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
To our dear dear lurking friends,
   
We would also like you to take the survey.  I put the Do you
  consider
yourself a part of the Code4Lib community. question in the survey
because
I  wanted to make sure that people that were part of Code4Lib were
separated from the random people that might take the survey -- like
  oh
say
my mom (I'm not kidding, she would take the survey if she saw it).
   
But then I was reminded that I once thought I wasn't part of the
community.
I read the listserv all the time and then I decided to start a
 blog.
And
then I went to a conference where I gave a lightning talk.  And now
Michael
Klein is yelling at me to come back to the conference and IRC chat
   room.
   
So now my hope for that question is that folks like you -- who
 think
   they
are just a lurker -- will take the survey and respond no to the
 first
question.  Then maybe we can figure out a way to turn some of those
  nos
to
yeses.
   
:)
A former lurker
   
   
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Rosalyn Metz 
 rosalynm...@gmail.com
  
wrote:
   
Ok Folks,
   
I'm starting off small.  Let's do a quick survey of the community
  and
see
what the gender breakdown is.
   
Survey Link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/68G5TBG
   
It should take 1 minute to fill out.  It closes at the end of the
  day
Friday (midnight).  I'll share the results here on Monday when
 we're
   all
back to work and can have a lively discussion about what they
 mean.
Expect
a chart (I like charts in addition to surveys).
   
Rosalyn
   
P.S. can someone share on the twitters?
   
   
  
 



Re: [CODE4LIB] EPUB and ILS indexing update : Question on CIP Usage for e-books

2012-11-05 Thread David Fiander
On 12-11-05 10:31, Henri-Damien LAURENT wrote:
 Hi
 I have managed to create marcrecord from epub files fairly easily :
   a) unzip my_epub.epub content.opf
   b) xsltproc DC2MARC21slim.xsl content.opf my_epub.marcxml
 And you get a fairly good MARC21slim bibliorecord. Thanks Library of
 Congress for your wonderful xslts.
 Some notes :
  ** EPUB files happen to contain my_epub.opf rather than content.opf,
 but this is rather anecdotic. One could use
 for i in *.epub
 do
 unzip $i *.opf -d `basename $i epub`
 done
and get a list of directories containing the *.opf file.

The OPF file in an EPUB can have any name at all. The correct way to
find the OPF file is top open the container.xml file in the EPUB and
parse it, looking for the rootfile tag that specifies the OPF name.


Re: [CODE4LIB] It's all job postings!

2012-08-15 Thread David Fiander
I'd buy that shirt.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu wrote:
 Second the motion to stop beating this dead horse.



 Dang, and I was already working on this 2013 conference t-shirt design...



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 -Original Message-

 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of

 Friscia, Michael

 Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:46 AM

 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU

 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] It's all job postings!



 Second the motion to stop beating this dead horse.



 ___

 Michael Friscia

 Manager, Digital Library  Programming Services



 Yale University Library

 (203) 432-1856





 -Original Message-

 From: Code for Libraries 
 [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]mailto:[mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of

 Carol Bean

 Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:43 AM

 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDUmailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU

 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] It's all job postings!



 No.



 Just no. Vote taken. Preferences noted. Done.



 Carol



 Sent from my iPhone



 On Aug 15, 2012, at 4:50 AM, Graham Triggs 
 grahamtri...@gmail.commailto:grahamtri...@gmail.com

 wrote:



  On 6 August 2012 13:19, Ed Summers e...@pobox.commailto:e...@pobox.com 
  wrote:

  150 people responded about whether jobs.code4lib.org posting should

  come to the discussion list:

 

 yes: 132

 no: 10

 who cares: 8

 

  93% in support or agnostic seems to be a good indicator that the

  postings should continue to come to the list for now.

 

  I'm not entirely convinced about that assessment. I quite readily

  agree that the jobs should be posted to *a* mailing list, I'm not so

  sure that it should be this mailing list.

 

  It's been discussed about filtering the jobs sent to the list, but I

  already filter the code4lib mailing list into a tag. It's been a bit

  of a faff, but I've subdivided the filtering so that I can get the

  messages sent from jobs@... to go to a different tag. But then Ed

  replied to one, so now it appears in both tags, and because I'm using

  Gmail, it takes the whole thread with it.

 

  So filtering really isn't a solution.

 

  Rather than just asking whether jobs should come to this mailing list,

  maybe we can ask whether a separate mailing list should be set up,

  specifically for jobs. The two mailing lists could be cross promoted

  (e.g. a standard footer), and people can choose whether they want or

  don't want to receive them. And we can still have

  discussions/follow-ups about those jobs on that mailing list.

 

  Even though the vast majority of the postings aren't applicable to me,

  I would probably still sign up to a separate jobs mailing list as it

  is of interest - but I would at least then be able to keep that

  separate from the main discussions, which is something I can't

  effectively do right now.

 

  G


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page

2012-02-22 Thread David Fiander
Would the upright code4lib brigade be opposed by the horizontal code4lib
posse?


On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:49, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote:

 In my defense, I didn't pick the term, 'indoctrination.'  =)  But it shows
 something about the community, eh?  The alternative title to the doc that
 someone added is also How do we make code4lib a more inclusive place for
 newcomers? Or, how do we quickly indoctrinate newbies to our values and
 ways of doing things?

 But again, these titles show that anyone can name things and it is likely
 to stick. So it is open to all to make changes. Perhaps some of us should
 form the Upright Code4Lib Brigade against the Indoctrination.

 Cheers,
 ~Bohyun

 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
 Wilfred Drew
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki
 main page

 When I saw the subject I immediately thought of the Borg: You will be
 assimilated.
 -
 Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S.
 Assistant Professor
 Librarian, Systems and Tech Services
 Tompkins Cortland Community College  (TC3) Library:
 http://www.tc3.edu/library/ Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139
 E-mail: dr...@tc3.edu
 Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406
 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4
 Online Identity: http://claimID.com/billdrew
 StrengthsQuest: Ideation, Input, Learner, Activator, Communication
 http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill_Drew/
 
 From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bohyun
 Kim [k...@fiu.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:55 AM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main
 page

 Since the Code4Lib wiki is live again, I put the link to Code4Lib
 Indoctrination
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-9VtL7L_fUxl2hTF_YZSdFRfucaLtmHvLSzom6XPVM/edit?pli=1
 Google Doc on the main page.

 Feel free to move to a different page if the main page is not the right
 place.
 http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#About_Code4Lib

 If you haven't checked out the Google Doc, it's worth looking at.

 ~Bohyun



Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib North : May 2012 : The University of Windsor : is a go!

2012-02-15 Thread David Fiander
Don't forget that May 21 is Victoria Day, so that could be a either a good
thing or a bad thing for scheduling at the end of the previous week.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:07, Mita Williams mita.willi...@gmail.comwrote:

 The third installment of Code4Lib North is a go!

 http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/North#Third_Meeting:_University_of_Windsor.2C_May_.3F.3F.3F.2C_2012

 We have the okay from our administration, we (tentatively) we have a place
 to meet up in the University's new Engineering Building, and we have a team
 of folks from the Leddy Library who will endeavour to extend the same kind
 hospitality that both McMaster and Queen's University demonstrated in the
 past.  And there's a chance that we might be able to hold a social event in
 the soon to be reopened Walkerville Brewery.

 Code4Lib Community: do have any suggestions for what sort of format we
 should pursue?  At the moment, I'm thinking along the lines of being two
 days with the first being a hackfest and the second being lightning talks
 and presentations.  Should we also include an 'ask me anything' on the
 first day? the second?  If we get the space we want, we might have access
 to a 3D printer.  Should we try to incorporate some hardware hacking?
 Also, we're not well versed in livestreaming and archiving video of
 presentations here but if it's important to the community, we can give it
 our best shot.  How important is live video/archived video to you?

 And perhaps, most importantly, what week in May would work best for you?

 Here are some mitigating factors (please let me know of any that I may have
 missed)

 - April 20-22 : GreatLakes THATCamp (London, Ontario)
 - May 5th : Weird Al is playing the Detroit Fox Theatre
 - June/July : tentative Code4Lib Midwest meetup at Michigan State

 Please let me know, on or off-list. Thanks!
 Mita



Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata war stories...

2012-01-28 Thread David Fiander
Stephen, regarding the question of ambiguity about chronology vs
enumeration, this is what I did with my parser:

# If items are identified by chronology only, with no separate
# enumeration (eg, a newspaper issue), then the chronology is
# recorded in the enumeration subfields $a - $f.  We can tell
# that this is the case if there are $a - $f subfields and no
# chronology subfields ($i-$k), and none of the $a-$f subfields
# have associated $u or $v subfields, but there's a $w and no $x

So, if there are ONLY enumeration fields, and none of the enumeration
fields have corresponding frequency or continuity indicators, AND there's a
publication frequency but no indication of when in the calendar the highest
level of enumeration changes, THEN the enumerations are really chronology.

Of course, this will still get certain patterns wrong, but it's the best
one can do.


On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:37, Stephen Meyer sme...@library.wisc.eduwrote:

 War is hell, right? Lately we have been dealing with a particular
 combination of two circles of the metadata Inferno: the first (limbo) and
 sixth (heresy):

 The limbo I'll define as a poorly designed metadata spec: the MARC
 holdings standard. The poor design in question is the ambiguity of
 enumeration/chronology subfield assignment, specifically this rule:

  When only chronology is used on an item (that is, the item
  carries no enumeration), the chronology is contained in the
  relevant enumeration subfield ($a-$h) instead of the chronology
  subfields ($i-$m).
  
 http://www.loc.gov/marc/**holdings/hd863865.htmlhttp://www.loc.gov/marc/holdings/hd863865.html

 This means that as a programmer trying to parse enumeration and chronology
 data from our holdings data *that uses a standard* I cannot reliably know
 that a subfield which has been defined as containing First level of
 enumeration will in fact contain enumeration rather than chronology.
 What's a programmer to do? Limbo, limbo.

 Others in this thread have already described the common heresy involved in
 MARC cataloging: embedding data in a record intended for a single
 institution, or worse, a specific OPAC.

 Due to the ambiguity in the spec and the desire to just make it look the
 way I want it to look in my OPAC, the temptation is simply too great. In
 the end, we have data that couldn't possibly meet the standard as it is
 described and means that we spend more time than we expected parsing it in
 the next system.

 In our case we work through these issues with an army of code tests. Our
 catalogers and reference staff find broken examples of MARC holdings data
 parsing in our newest discovery system, we gather the real-world MARC
 records as a test data set and then we write a bunch of Rspec tests so we
 don't undo previous bug fixes as we deal with the current ones. The
 challenge is coming up with a fast and responsive mechanism/process for
 adding a record to the test set once identified.

 -Steve

 Bess Sadler wrote, On 1/27/12 8:26 PM:

  I remember the required field operation of... aught six? aught seven?
 It all runs together at my age. Turns out, for years people had been making
 shell catalog records for items in the collection that needed to be checked
 out but hadn't yet been barcoded. Some percentage of these people opted not
 to record any information about the item other than the barcode it left the
 building under, presumably because they were in a hurry. If there was
 such a thing as a metadata crime, that'd be it.

 We were young and naive, we thought why not just index all our catalog
 records into solr? Little did we know what unholy abominations we would
 uncover. Out of nowhere, we were surrounded by zombie marc records,
 horrible half-created things, never meant to roam the earth or even to
 exist in a sane mind. They could tell us nothing about who they were, what
 book they had once tried to describe, they could only stare blankly and
 repeat in mangled agony required field! required field! required
 field! over and over…

 It took us weeks to put them all out of their misery.

 This is the first time I've ever spoken of this publicly. The support
 group is helping with the nightmares, but sometimes still, I wake in a cold
 sweat, wondering… did we really find them all?


 On Jan 27, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Ethan Gruber wrote:

  EDIT ME

 http://ead.lib.virginia.edu/**vivaxtf/view?docId=uva-sc/**
 viu00888.xml;query=;brand=**default#adminlinkhttp://ead.lib.virginia.edu/vivaxtf/view?docId=uva-sc/viu00888.xml;query=;brand=default#adminlink

 On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Roy Tennantroytenn...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  Oh, I should have also mentioned that some of the worst problems occur
 when people treat their metadata like it will never leave their
 institution. When that happens you get all kinds of crazy cruft in a
 record. For example, just off the top of my head:

 * Embedded HTML markup (one of my favorites is animg  tag)
 * URLs to remote resources that are 

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hotel registration - This was a test, right?

2011-11-16 Thread David Fiander
But then you would get fewer nickels. We need to figure out the equilibrium
point for this function now.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 21:23, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:

 I concur.

 If I had a nickel for every clueless person who makes more money than
 me, I would make more money than I do.

 Cary

 On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Joe Hourcle
 onei...@grace.nascom.nasa.gov wrote:
  On Nov 16, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
 
  I just registered for an overflow block room at
 
 https://resweb.passkey.com/Resweb.do?mode=welcome_gi_newgroupID=7466136
 
  I noticed when I got to the Guest Details page that there was a
  checkbox in the Contact Information block -- Yes, I'd like to be
  notified… -- which was checked (not surprising) and not changeable
  (that was surprising). Peeking at the code, I noticed that the form
  tag had the words, checked and disabled.
 
  Now, since nobody could be so slimy as to do this intentionally
  (right?). I helped them out by using my in-browser editor to correct
  this oversight, because I wouldn't want them to waste electrons
  sending me email that I don't want.
 
  Unless they're doing something to un-disable the form when you submit,
  there shouldn't be an issue in most browsers, as the 'disable' also
 implies
  'don't bother sending when submitting'.
 
  It's implied in the HTML4 spec, but I don't know if it's required
 behavior:
 
 http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.12
 
 
  Now, if they had set it 'readonly', then yes, you should worry.  Or that
  whoever made the form doesn't know what they're doing, and as I've
  often found out, those people seem to get paid way more money than
  I do even though they're clueless.
 
 
  -Joe
 



 --
 Cary Gordon
 The Cherry Hill Company
 http://chillco.com



Re: [CODE4LIB] A suggested role for text mining in library catalogs?

2011-02-23 Thread David Fiander
One of the difficulties with your surface analysis of Thoreau vs Austen is
that Thoreau wrote a memoir and Austen wrote fictional narrative. If the
texts were available, it might be interesting to see how something like
Bridget Jones compares. It will clearly have a lot of female 3rd person in
it, but it will also have a lot of 1st person.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 19:02, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote:

 On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Cindy Harper wrote:

  It's not ironic - my post was musing inspired by your work.  I guess I
 wasn't sure if I understood your results. You were looking at the overall
 POS usage in the entire texts as a possible way of ranking the texts. I was
 wondering about POS of particular search terms - those that could take on
 several POS


 Initially I wanted to see if I could classify works based on their POS
 usage. [1] I was hoping to find lots of action verbs in one work and call it
 an action story. I was hoping to find lots of nouns in another story and
 call it... I don't know, something else. Instead, after rudimentary
 investigation, I discovered that all of of the works I analyzed had the same
 relative percentage of nouns, pronouns, verbs, adverbs, adjectives, etc.
 Maybe such a thing is indicative of the English language.

 On the other hand, I did notice a difference in the use of particular
 pronouns between works. In Walden by Thoreau, a story about an individual
 living on the banks of a pond, there was a lot of use of the word I, but
 in a different story, where the author and his brother canoe down a river,
 the word we predominated. Similarly, three Jane Austen stories have many
 words like she and her where those words are less frequent in the works
 by Thoreau. While my analysis was trivial and thin, I think we might be able
 to classify some works by gender or speaking voice.

 Similar things may be possible with other parts-of-speech, like adjectives,
 specifically colors. For example 214 of the 117,540 words in Walden (0.18%)
 are colors  [1] But only 13  of 121,917 words in Pride and Prejudice (0.01%)
 are color words. Despite the similar lengths of the works, Walden is 18
 times more colorful than Pride. Interesting? This only begs other
 questions. Is 0.18% a high value or a low value? Is the relative use of
 colors similar within a particular author or not? Has the use of color
 changed over time or indicative of genres? Does the use of specific colors
 actually denote mood?

 In the past libraries did not have a whole lot of full text in order to
 evaluate content. That is not true now-a-days. It is now possible to
 literally count and measure a book's characteristics. Since this metadata is
 numeric in nature, it lends itself to visualization. (Think Karen C's
 presentation at Code4Lib.) And this whole thing is good fodder for search,
 discovery, and evaluation. Too much of our metadata is qualitative.


 [1] foray's into POS - http://bit.ly/aM2eZx
 [2] color words in Walden - http://t.co/hlg5ibL
 [3] color words in Pride - http://t.co/VflNf3n

 --
 Eric Lease Morgan



Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib North | Meetup!

2011-02-20 Thread David Fiander
Right now both weekends work for me.  I know that for me, and probably for
many others, the sooner the date is made firm, the easier it will be to make
sure that the chosen one *cough* will stay free for this.

- David


On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 13:02, Graham McCarthy gmccar...@ryerson.ca wrote:

 +1 for full day hackfest. both weekends work for me too!

 On 18 February 2011 08:55, Jennifer O'Donnell 
 jennifer.s.odonn...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  +1 for a full day hackfest.  Thanks for organising this Nick and John!
 
  Jennifer
 
  On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Dileshni Jayasinghe 
  d.jayasin...@utoronto.ca wrote:
 
   Vote for a full day hackfest too. More time to come up with something
   interesting.
  
   Dileshni
  
  
  
   Tim Ribaric wrote:
  
   code4lib North ++
  
   Thanks for putting this together.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf
 Of
   William Denton
   Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:15 PM
   To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
   Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib North | Meetup!
  
   On 17 February 2011, Nick Ruest wrote:
  
  
  
   It is getting close to that time to start planning for another
 Code4Lib
   North meetup! In anticipation, John Fink and I have been working
 behind
  the
   scenes here at McMaster to convince our administration to allow us to
  throw
   in proposal to host it.
  
  
  
   Hurray!
  
  
  
   When
   - May 5/6, 2011 or May 12/13, 2011
  
  
  
   Those both seem like good dates.  And they both work for me.  I'd love
  to
   come.
  
   I vote for a full-day hackfest, though.  A half-day isn't enough to
  really
   get into things.  I don't mind getting my own lunch.
  
   Thanks, Nick and John.  I'm looking forward to it.
  
   Bill
   --
   William Denton, Toronto : miskatonic.org www.frbr.org openfrbr.org
  
  
  
   --
   Dileshni Jayasinghe
   Programmer Analyst
   Scholars Portal, OCUL
  
 



 --
 Graham McCarthy
 Innovative Technologies Librarian
 Ryerson University
 350 Victoria St. Toronto ON M5B 2K3

 p: 416 979 5000 x2119
 f: 416 979 5215



Re: [CODE4LIB] to link or not to link: PURLs

2011-01-26 Thread David Fiander
If you don't have any confidence in the URL, then why would you bother
giving it out at all? Links are links. Make them active.

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 14:57, Pottinger, Hardy J. pottinge...@umsystem.edu
 wrote:

 Hi, this topic has come up for discussion with some of my colleagues, and I
 was hoping to get a few other perspectives. For a public interface to a
 repository and/or digital library, would you make the handle/PURL an active
 hyperlink, or just provide the URL in text form? And why?

 My feeling is, making the URL an active hyperlink implies confidence in the
 PURL/Handle, and provides the user with functionality they expect of a
 hyperlink (right or option-click to copy, or bookmark).

 Thanks for your input.

 --
 HARDY POTTINGER pottinge...@umsystem.edu
 University of Missouri Library Systems
 http://lso.umsystem.edu/~pottingerhj/http://lso.umsystem.edu/%7Epottingerhj/
 No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone,
 turn back. --Turkish proverb



Re: [CODE4LIB] SIP2 SDK available

2010-11-04 Thread David Fiander
Yes, LibLime took that code that I wrote for the Evergreen OpenILS project
and incorporated it into the Koha codebase without attribution. Once it was
finished, it was pretty stable, and there have been very few problems with
it, although I have heard that there might be problems with the checksum
code on 64-bit servers.

- David

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 14:18, Schneider, Wayne wschnei...@hclib.org wrote:

 There is a perl implementation of the server (or ACS, in SIP
 terminology) side, which I believe is incorporated into the Koha code. A
 CVS repository is available from SourceForge
 (http://openncip.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openncip/). It doesn't
 appear to be too actively worked on at the moment. I don't know if how
 helpful it will be, since you're probably looking at libraries for the
 client side, but there may be useful stuff in there for you.

wayne

 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
 Migell Acosta
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:19 AM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: [CODE4LIB] SIP2 SDK available

 Hello everyone, my name is Migell Acosta and I am new to the list.  I am
 at the County of Los Angeles Public Library.

 I am interested in developing our own automated check in system because
 the commercial offerings are a bit pricey and not very innovative.

 So, my task will be to write the user interface, but I'd like to avoid
 writing the SIP2 component from scratch.  Does anyone know of a SIP2 SDK
 or software library available as FOSS or paid license?  I'm not too
 picky about programming language.  We have a developer on staff who can
 adapt to a few different languages.

 Thanks very much.


 Migell Acosta
 County of Los Angeles Public Library
 Interim Assistant Director, Information Systems
 562-940-8418
 maco...@library.lacounty.gov



Re: [CODE4LIB] mailing list administratativia

2010-10-27 Thread David Fiander
Ray, I think that the constraint makes more sense as a positive real number.
While the length of a thread will never be exactly a non-integer length, it
will eventually exceed any finite real-valued limit imposed, which is all
that's necessary.

(Actually, the non-negative part is optional. A limit that is = 0 will
still allow the first message through before the list is throttled.)

- David

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 18:18, Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress 
r...@loc.gov wrote:

 I think the constraint is that it has to be a rational number.

 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
 Eric
 Hellman
 Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:58 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] mailing list administratativia

 I vote for changing the limit threshold to

 PI * (eventual length of this meta-thread).

 On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Alexander Johannesen wrote:

  On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu wrote:
  Can that limit threshold be raised?  If so, are there reasons why it
 should not be raised?
 
  Is it to throttle spam or something? 50 seems rather low, and it's
  rather depressing to have a lively discussion throttled like that. Not
  to mention I thought I was simply kicked out for living things up
  (especially given my reasonable follow-up was where the throttling
  began).
 
  Alex
  --
   Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchemist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic
  Maps
  --- http://shelter.nu/blog/
  --
  -- http://www.google.com/profiles/alexander.johannesen
  ---

 Eric Hellman
 President, Gluejar, Inc.
 41 Watchung Plaza, #132
 Montclair, NJ 07042
 USA

 e...@hellman.net
 http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/
 @gluejar



Re: [CODE4LIB] Kingston? And now the date (was Re: [CODE4LIB] Location of the first Code4Lib North meeting?)

2010-01-28 Thread David Fiander
I concur. Thursday afternoon/evening and all day Friday works for me.

+1 Thursday-Friday 6-7 May


On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 06:45, John Fereira ja...@cornell.edu wrote:
 MJ Suhonos wrote:

 +1 Thursday-Friday 6-7 May here as well.

 As long as things don't get started until late afternoon or early evening on
 Thursday that would give those close enough to drive the option of driving
 to Kingston on Thursday morning or even working part of the day on Thursday.
   Other than that, Thu-Fri 6-7 sounds fine.



[CODE4LIB] Location of the first Code4Lib North meeting?

2010-01-20 Thread David Fiander
So far on the wiki the proposals for the location range from the
center of known space to let's all visit Dan!:

- Toronto
- Kingston
- Ottawa
- Sudbury
- Montreal

Given some of the far-flung people who have expressed interest in the
meeting, including some people in Wisconsin (!), it would be
interesting to figure out the weighted average travel time required
for all of these locations, but I suspect that that would just mean we
end up in Toronto, again.

I just added Montreal to the list, just because, hey, it's Montreal!
But then, we'd have to find somebody at McGill to act as our host.

If we're going to be meeting in April/May, then it's probably time to
start the discussion about site selection so that when the decision is
made, the hosts will have time to make the arrangements and so that
people travelling have enough lead time to make cheap travel
arrangements.

- David


Re: [CODE4LIB] Location of the first Code4Lib North meeting?

2010-01-20 Thread David Fiander
Of course, as a corollary to the fact that all the locations being
discussed are Canadian (well, except for Montreal), any Americans
resident in the USA on the list do need to make sure that their
passports will be valid through to the end of May, at least, in order
to ensure you will be able to attend.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 14:10, Thomas Dowling tdowl...@ohiolink.edu wrote:
 On 01/20/2010 02:03 PM, Glen Newton wrote:
 Hmmm. No one has brought up how increasingly onerous it has become to
 travel to the U.S., as a Canadian or non-U.S resident (and
 particularly for non-Canadian, non-US residents who are fingerprinted
 on each visit!). This should should not be discounted, as much as I
 enjoy visiting place like Montpelier, close to where I have some good
 friends...


 We could have a joint meeting in Sarnia/Port Huron and just shout across the
 river to each other!  (Windsor/Detroit might be too loud.)



Re: [CODE4LIB] Location of the first Code4Lib North meeting?

2010-01-20 Thread David Fiander
I'm not sure, but everybody entering the US is required to present a
passport or other enhanced ID, so if the Americans don't have
passports, it's more that they can't go home without.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 14:36, Walter Lewis lew...@hhpl.on.ca wrote:
 On 20 Jan 10, at 2:30 PM, David Fiander wrote:

 Of course, as a corollary to the fact that all the locations being
 discussed are Canadian (well, except for Montreal), any Americans
 resident in the USA on the list do need to make sure that their
 passports will be valid through to the end of May, at least, in order
 to ensure you will be able to attend.

 Is Canadian customs now requiring US Passports?  Used to be Hotel California: 
  you could come over, but without your passport you couldn't go home.

 Walter



Re: [CODE4LIB] Location of the first Code4Lib North meeting?

2010-01-20 Thread David Fiander
Walter plans on going to Kingston by way of Buffalo and Cape Vincent,
just so he can take the ferries.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 14:45, Walter Lewis lew...@hhpl.on.ca wrote:
 On 20 Jan 10, at 2:39 PM, Wendy Huot wrote:

 Regarding travel to Kingston:

 * For an interesting drive from upstate NY, you can get from Cape Vincent, 
 NY to Kingston by way of Wolfe Island + ferry.

 Driving across the Thousand Islands Bridge is faster, but the interesting 
 quotient goes way up via Wolfe Island  (two ferries: one cheap, one free)

 Walter



Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-02 Thread David Fiander
And how does that absolve such sites from being named and shamed or
permanently filtered? If Millenium is acting like a robot in its
monthly maintenance processes, then it should be checking robots.txt.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Chris Kingck...@asl.edu wrote:
 stuart yeates wrote:

 GPO knows that many institutions have automated URL checkers

   that run against the PURL server. Please be aware that the

 PURL restoration process is severely slowed by checkers repeatedly
 hitting the PURL server.

 Presumably if there are any parties running automated tools which neglect
 to check robots.txt those institutions are going to be named and shamed
 and/or permanently filtered?

 Any out-of-the-box installation of Innovative's Millennium that includes
 URL Verify is set automatically to check all 856 links on the first of the
 month.

 Chris



 --
 Christopher King
 Public Services Librarian
 Appalachian School of Law Library
 1221 Edgewater Drive
 Grundy VA 24614
 (276) 935-6688 x1314
 ck...@asl.edu



Re: [CODE4LIB] WARC file format now ISO standard

2009-06-02 Thread David Fiander
This is a common problem with ISO standards, and the common solution
is to do just this: release the final draft before it's approved by
ISO as an official standard. That's what the ISO Forth programming
language group did as well.

- David

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 5:35 PM, st...@archive.org st...@archive.org wrote:
 point well taken. :)

 there were no significant changes to the WARC format
 between the last draft and the published standard.

 you can use Heritrix WARCReader, or WARC Tools warcvalidator
 to verify that you have created a valid WARC in accordance
 with the spec.


 /st...@archive.org


 On 6/2/09 2:27 PM, Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress wrote:

 But you have to pay $200 for the document that lists changes from last
 draft to first official version.

 (Ok, Ok, it was just a joke. But you do get the point.)


 - Original Message - From: st...@archive.org st...@archive.org
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WARC file format now ISO standard


 hi Karen,

 understood.

 the final draft of the spec is available here:

 http://www.scribd.com/doc/4303719/WARC-ISO-28500-final-draft-v018-Zentveld-080618

 and other (similar) versions here:
 http://archive-access.sourceforge.net/warc/


 /st...@archive.org



 On 6/2/09 2:15 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:

 Unfortunately, being an ISO standard, to obtain it costs 118 CHF (about
 $110 USD). Hard to follow a standard you can't afford to read. Is there an
 online version somewhere?

 kc

 st...@archive.org wrote:

 hi code4lib,

 if you're archiving web content, please use the WARC format.

 thanks,
 /st...@archive.org



 WARC File Format Published as an International Standard
 http://netpreserve.org/press/pr20090601.php

 ISO 28500:2009 specifies the WARC file format:

 * to store both the payload content and control information from
  mainstream Internet application layer protocols, such as the
  Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP), Domain Name System (DNS),
  and File Transfer Protocol (FTP);
 * to store arbitrary metadata linked to other stored data
  (e.g. subject classifier, discovered language, encoding);
 * to support data compression and maintain data record integrity;
 * to store all control information from the harvesting protocol
  (e.g. request headers), not just response information;
 * to store the results of data transformations linked to other
  stored data;
 * to store a duplicate detection event linked to other stored
  data (to reduce storage in the presence of identical or
  substantially similar resources);
 * to be extended without disruption to existing functionality;
 * to support handling of overly long records by truncation or
  segmentation, where desired.


 more info here:
 http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/formats/fdd/fdd000236.shtml






Re: [CODE4LIB] exact title searches with z39.50 [resolved]

2009-04-28 Thread David Fiander
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote:

 Wow, isn't the Internet cool, and /me wonders, Did the Bath Profile come
 from... Bath? [2]


Yes.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/bath/tp-bath2.1-e.htm#c


Re: [CODE4LIB] RDA in RDF, was: Something completely different

2009-04-07 Thread David Fiander
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote:
 Listen...  What you hear from over here is the sound of a very heavy sigh
 coming from a computer type who really wants to help improve the way library
 data is used in a networked environment, but they can't convince their own
 to modify the way they encode information.

See also

Fiander, David J. Applying XML to the Bibliographic Description.
Cataloging and Classification Quarterly 33, no. 2 (2001): 17-28.

Fiander, David J., and D. Grant Campbell. An XML Definition for an
ISBD-Based Encoding Scheme. Journal of Internet Cataloging 6, no. 4
(2003): 29-58.

Which is what happens when a computer type starts de novo with the
cataloguing standards and builds simple data structures.


Re: [CODE4LIB] RDA in RDF, was: Something completely different

2009-04-07 Thread David Fiander
Roy,

That's true. Unfortunately, I missed Kevin's talk at Access '02 in
Windsor, and since I wrote the first of those two papers I've mostly
been out of the loop, since it's not my area any more.

- David

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Roy Tennant tenna...@oclc.org wrote:
 Well, and then you have the XOBIS work from Stanford that ksclarke was
 involved with.
 Roy


 On 4/7/09 4/7/09 € 10:41 AM, David Fiander da...@fiander.info wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote:
 Listen...  What you hear from over here is the sound of a very heavy sigh
 coming from a computer type who really wants to help improve the way library
 data is used in a networked environment, but they can't convince their own
 to modify the way they encode information.

 See also

 Fiander, David J. Applying XML to the Bibliographic Description.
 Cataloging and Classification Quarterly 33, no. 2 (2001): 17-28.

 Fiander, David J., and D. Grant Campbell. An XML Definition for an
 ISBD-Based Encoding Scheme. Journal of Internet Cataloging 6, no. 4
 (2003): 29-58.

 Which is what happens when a computer type starts de novo with the
 cataloguing standards and builds simple data structures.


 --



Re: [CODE4LIB] Lightning Talk ideas

2008-11-26 Thread David Fiander
Ross, that's the Hackfest topic.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Ross Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I Had This Idea That I Have No Idea How To Do, Do You?

 -Ross.

 On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Jay Luker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know its a bit early to start thinking of these, but in the spirit of
 William Denton's talk proposal, What We Talk About When We Talk About FRBR,
 I thought I'd throw out a few title suggestions to get the ideas flowing.

 So Much FOAF So Close To ~/
 Where I'm Context-Sensitive Searching From
 The Third Thing That Killed My NextGen OPAC Project Off
 Where Metadata Comes Together With Other Metadata
 They're Not Your Records

 --jay




[CODE4LIB] Converting Elsevier CSV usage reports to COUNTER XML?

2008-11-24 Thread David Fiander
Elsevier provides a variety of options for downloading ScienceDirect
journal usage stats, including HTML, PDF, and CSV, but the one format
they don't support is COUNTER-compliant XML, even for the COUNTER
reports.

So, before I burn off a couple of days on this, has anybody written a
utility that can convert Elsevier CSV to COUNTER XML?

- David


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread David Fiander
Giving out a travel mug at the conference, especially if the attendees
were informed of this at registration time (or at least before they
packed) would be a fantastic idea.

- David

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Edward M. Corrado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like the idea. If giving out at the beginning of the conference, it could
 also make the conference more green. Of course, in that case it would
 probably need to be a travel mug instead of a regular mug.

 Edward


 Richard Wallis wrote:

 We at Talis will be, as previously, sponsoring Code4lib next year - we are
 just finalising the details with our bean counters at the moment.

 In addition to that I would like to make a suggestion as to maybe adding
 to the memories of the event beyond the ritual wearing of the t-shirt upon
 returning to our home establishments.

 The consumption of hot beverages I suspect is an almost universal trait of
 the code4liber as we try to get the latest bit of perl, python, ruby, html,
 or javascript to behave as we intended it.  Wouldn't it be nice in those
 occasional dark and testing times to have a warm and comforting physical
 reminder that we are part of a global community of similar folks, focused on
 and passionate about technology  libraries.

 So...

 How about a Code4lib mug or similar beverage container.  Subject to the
 featuring of a simple Talis logo, we would be prepared to explore the
 possibility of funding the production of a Code4lib 2009 mug for every
 attendee, which could feature graphics such as the winning t-shirt design a
 Code4lib message, or logo if we have one in time.

 Just a suggestion - what do folks think?

 Richard Wallis, Talis.



Re: [CODE4LIB] LOC Authority Data

2008-09-23 Thread David Fiander
One of the most important pages in the print volumes of the Library of
Congress Subject Headings (LCSH), is the title page verso, which
includes publication and copyright details. The folks at LC very
clearly understand US copyright law, since on that page you can see
that they claim that the LCSH is copyright LC _outside of the United
States of America_.

The same probably holds true for the copyright claim on the name
authority files. You folks in the United States can do what you will
with impunity, but us unwashed masses beyond your shores are likely to
get in trouble. Probably the next time we attempt to cross the border.

- David

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Jason Griffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I mentioned, they are available from Ibiblio on the link above. The
 copyright claim is...well...specious at best. But no one really wants
 to be the one to go to court and prove it. They've been publicly
 available for more than a year now on the Fred 2.0 site, and they
 haven't been sued, to my knowledge.

 Jason


 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Nate Vack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Bryan Baldus
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One way (as you likely know) (official, expensive) is via The Library of 
 Congress Cataloging Distribution Service:

 Huh. They claim copyright of these records. I'd somehow thought:

 1: The federal government can't hold copyrights

 2: As purely factual data, catalog records are conceptually uncopyrightable

 Anyone who knows more about this than I do know if they're *really*
 copyrighted, or if it's more of a we're gonna try and say they're
 copyrighted and hope no one ignores us?

 Curious,
 -Nate




Re: [CODE4LIB] KR (was: Gartner on OSS)

2008-03-31 Thread David Fiander
Vi is just as programmable as emacs. It's possible to write a vi macro
that runs a turing machine.

- David

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Cloutman, David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I use nano, which is the same thing as pico, more or less. I wrote my
  first web pages using pico in a unix shell. I always thought it was a
  great editor. I use nano almost daily, even on my Windows machines.

  I just don't see the attaction to vi. I understand the need to know it,
  but the fundamentalist furvor that some people have for the program
  baffles me.

  - David


  ---
  David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Electronic Services Librarian
  Marin County Free Library



  -Original Message-
  From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  K.G. Schneider
  Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:09 AM
  To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
  Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] KR (was: Gartner on OSS)


   I now open up the vi vs. emacs discussion:
  
   http://xkcd.com/378/
  
   (personally, I'm a BBEdit user, but fall back to vi as needed ... and
  ex
   for those rare times when you have to tip into a Solaris box to fix
  the
   vfstab and your TERM is completely hosed)
  
   -Joe

  Back when that was my choice, I used emacs exactly once, during which I
  removed every instance of the letter m from a lengthy document. (When
  I have to edit a file in my shell account, which is rare, I use pico...
  yes, I know that makes me a sissy *and I don't care.*)

  K.G. Schneider

  Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm



[CODE4LIB] Usability evaluation of library online catalogues

2008-02-04 Thread David Fiander
A New Zealand based study published by the ACM

White, H., Wright, T., and Chawner, B. 2006. Usability evaluation of
library online catalogues. In Proceedings of the 7th Australasian User
interface Conference - Volume 50 (Hobart, Australia, January 16 - 19,
2006). W. Piekarski, Ed. ACM International Conference Proceeding
Series, vol. 169. Australian Computer Society, Darlinghurst,
Australia, 69-72.

Money quote from abstract:

The evaluation found severe usability problems with online
catalogues--we found so many problems we were forced to use a card
sorting technique to understand and classify the problems.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Usability evaluation of library online catalogues

2008-02-04 Thread David Fiander
Markus,

Thanks. It's also available in the ACM digital library, which is where
I found it.

- David

On Feb 4, 2008 2:24 PM, Markus Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  White, H., Wright, T., and Chawner, B. 2006. Usability evaluation of
  library online catalogues. In Proceedings of the 7th Australasian User
  interface Conference - Volume 50 (Hobart, Australia, January 16 - 19,
  2006). W. Piekarski, Ed. ACM International Conference Proceeding
  Series, vol. 169. Australian Computer Society, Darlinghurst,
  Australia, 69-72.
 
  Money quote from abstract:
 
  The evaluation found severe usability problems with online
  catalogues--we found so many problems we were forced to use a card
  sorting technique to understand and classify the problems.

 If you want to read the article in fulltext:

 http://libra.msra.cn/paperdetail.aspx?id=2361959

 cheers!
 Markus Fischer