[CODE4LIB] Distributed Models the Library (was: Re: [CODE4LIB] RFC 5005 ATOM extension and OAI)
Hi Jakob- Yes, I think you are correct that it is a bit much to think that a distributed archiving model is a bit much for libraries to even consider now, but I do think there are useful insights to be gained here. As it stands now, linux developers using Git can carry around the entire change history of the linux kernel (well, I think they just included the 2.6 kernel when they moved to Git) on their laptop, make changes, create patches, etc and then make that available to others. Well, undoubtedly change history is is a bit much for the library to think about, by why not, for instance, and entire library catalog? If I could check out the library catalog onto my computer use whatever tools I wished to search, organize, annotate, etc., then perhaps mix-in data (say holdings data from other that are near me) OR even create the sort of relationships between records that the Open Library folks are talking about (http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/mtarchive/berkman_lunch_aaron_swartz_on.html) then share that added data, we have quite a powerful distributed development model. It may seem a bit far-fetched, but I think that some of the pieces (or at least a better understanding of how this might all work) are beginning to take shape. -Peter On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Jakob Voss wrote: Peter wrote: Also, re: blog mirroring, I highly recommend the current discussions floating aroung the blogosphere regarding distributed source control (Git, Mercurial, etc.). It's a fundamental paradigm shift from centralized control to distributed control that points the way toward the future of libraries as they (we) become less and less the gatekeepers for the stuff be it digital or physical and more and more the facilitators of the bidirectional replication that assures ubiquitous access and long-term preservation. The library becomes (actually it has already happended) simply a node on a network of trust and should act accordingly. See the thoroughly entertaining/thought-provoking Google tech talk by Linus Torvalds on Git: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 Thanks for pointing to this interesting discussion. This goes even further then the current paradigm shift from the old model (author - publisher - distributor - reader) to a world of user-generated content and collaboration! I was glad if we finally got to model and archive Weblogs and Wikis - modelling and archiving the whole process of content copying, changing and remixing and republication is far beyong libraries capabilities! Greetings, Jakob -- Jakob Voß [EMAIL PROTECTED], skype: nichtich Verbundzentrale des GBV (VZG) / Common Library Network Platz der Goettinger Sieben 1, 37073 Göttingen, Germany +49 (0)551 39-10242, http://www.gbv.de
[CODE4LIB] Distributed Models the Library (was: Re: [CODE4LIB] RFC 5005 ATOM extension and OAI)
not, for instance, and entire library catalog? If I could check out the library catalog onto my computer use whatever tools I wished to search, Peter, You might be interested in Art Rhyno's experiment. Here's Jon Udell's summary: Art Rhyno’s science project Art Rhyno’s title is Systems Librarian but he should consider adding Mad Scientist to his business card because his is full of wild and crazy and — to me, at least — brilliant ideas. Last year, when I was a judge for the Talis “Mashing up the Library” competion, one of my favorite entries was this one from Art. The project mirrors a library catalog to the desktop and integrates it with desktop search. The searcher in this case is Google Desktop, but could be another, and the integration is accomplished by exposing the catalog as a set of Web Folders, which Art correctly describes as “Microsoft’s in-built and oft-overlooked WebDAV option.” http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/16/art-rhynos-science-project/ Jason -- Jason Stirnaman OME/Biomedical Digital Projects Librarian A.R. Dykes Library The University of Kansas Medical Center Kansas City, Kansas Work: 913-588-7319 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/25/2007 at 10:47 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], pkeane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jakob- Yes, I think you are correct that it is a bit much to think that a distributed archiving model is a bit much for libraries to even consider now, but I do think there are useful insights to be gained here. As it stands now, linux developers using Git can carry around the entire change history of the linux kernel (well, I think they just included the 2.6 kernel when they moved to Git) on their laptop, make changes, create patches, etc and then make that available to others. Well, undoubtedly change history is is a bit much for the library to think about, by why not, for instance, and entire library catalog? If I could check out the library catalog onto my computer use whatever tools I wished to search, organize, annotate, etc., then perhaps mix-in data (say holdings data from other that are near me) OR even create the sort of relationships between records that the Open Library folks are talking about (http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/mtarchive/berkman_lunch_aaron_swartz_on.htm l) then share that added data, we have quite a powerful distributed development model. It may seem a bit far-fetched, but I think that some of the pieces (or at least a better understanding of how this might all work) are beginning to take shape. -Peter On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Jakob Voss wrote: Peter wrote: Also, re: blog mirroring, I highly recommend the current discussions floating aroung the blogosphere regarding distributed source control (Git, Mercurial, etc.). It's a fundamental paradigm shift from centralized control to distributed control that points the way toward the future of libraries as they (we) become less and less the gatekeepers for the stuff be it digital or physical and more and more the facilitators of the bidirectional replication that assures ubiquitous access and long-term preservation. The library becomes (actually it has already happended) simply a node on a network of trust and should act accordingly. See the thoroughly entertaining/thought-provoking Google tech talk by Linus Torvalds on Git: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 Thanks for pointing to this interesting discussion. This goes even further then the current paradigm shift from the old model (author - publisher - distributor - reader) to a world of user-generated content and collaboration! I was glad if we finally got to model and archive Weblogs and Wikis - modelling and archiving the whole process of content copying, changing and remixing and republication is far beyong libraries capabilities! Greetings, Jakob -- Jakob Voß [EMAIL PROTECTED], skype: nichtich Verbundzentrale des GBV (VZG) / Common Library Network Platz der Goettinger Sieben 1, 37073 Göttingen, Germany +49 (0)551 39-10242, http://www.gbv.de
Re: [CODE4LIB] Distributed Models the Library (was: Re: [CODE4LIB] RFC 5005 ATOM extension and OAI)
Very interesting! I will check it out -Peter On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Jason Stirnaman wrote: not, for instance, and entire library catalog? If I could check out the library catalog onto my computer use whatever tools I wished to search, Peter, You might be interested in Art Rhyno's experiment. Here's Jon Udell's summary: Art Rhyno?s science project Art Rhyno?s title is Systems Librarian but he should consider adding Mad Scientist to his business card because his is full of wild and crazy and ? to me, at least ? brilliant ideas. Last year, when I was a judge for the Talis ?Mashing up the Library? competion, one of my favorite entries was this one from Art. The project mirrors a library catalog to the desktop and integrates it with desktop search. The searcher in this case is Google Desktop, but could be another, and the integration is accomplished by exposing the catalog as a set of Web Folders, which Art correctly describes as ?Microsoft?s in-built and oft-overlooked WebDAV option.? http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/16/art-rhynos-science-project/ Jason -- Jason Stirnaman OME/Biomedical Digital Projects Librarian A.R. Dykes Library The University of Kansas Medical Center Kansas City, Kansas Work: 913-588-7319 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/25/2007 at 10:47 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], pkeane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jakob- Yes, I think you are correct that it is a bit much to think that a distributed archiving model is a bit much for libraries to even consider now, but I do think there are useful insights to be gained here. As it stands now, linux developers using Git can carry around the entire change history of the linux kernel (well, I think they just included the 2.6 kernel when they moved to Git) on their laptop, make changes, create patches, etc and then make that available to others. Well, undoubtedly change history is is a bit much for the library to think about, by why not, for instance, and entire library catalog? If I could check out the library catalog onto my computer use whatever tools I wished to search, organize, annotate, etc., then perhaps mix-in data (say holdings data from other that are near me) OR even create the sort of relationships between records that the Open Library folks are talking about (http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/mtarchive/berkman_lunch_aaron_swartz_on.htm l) then share that added data, we have quite a powerful distributed development model. It may seem a bit far-fetched, but I think that some of the pieces (or at least a better understanding of how this might all work) are beginning to take shape. -Peter On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Jakob Voss wrote: Peter wrote: Also, re: blog mirroring, I highly recommend the current discussions floating aroung the blogosphere regarding distributed source control (Git, Mercurial, etc.). It's a fundamental paradigm shift from centralized control to distributed control that points the way toward the future of libraries as they (we) become less and less the gatekeepers for the stuff be it digital or physical and more and more the facilitators of the bidirectional replication that assures ubiquitous access and long-term preservation. The library becomes (actually it has already happended) simply a node on a network of trust and should act accordingly. See the thoroughly entertaining/thought-provoking Google tech talk by Linus Torvalds on Git: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 Thanks for pointing to this interesting discussion. This goes even further then the current paradigm shift from the old model (author - publisher - distributor - reader) to a world of user-generated content and collaboration! I was glad if we finally got to model and archive Weblogs and Wikis - modelling and archiving the whole process of content copying, changing and remixing and republication is far beyong libraries capabilities! Greetings, Jakob -- Jakob Voß [EMAIL PROTECTED], skype: nichtich Verbundzentrale des GBV (VZG) / Common Library Network Platz der Goettinger Sieben 1, 37073 Göttingen, Germany +49 (0)551 39-10242, http://www.gbv.de
