Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-26 Thread Tim Prettyman
You get the invalid indicator message with the FMT tag because ALEPH uses it as a control field, with no subfields or indicators and MARC::Record is treating it as a variable field (it's making the assumption that unless a tag is a control tag, ie 010, a field should have indicators and

Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-26 Thread Klein, Michael
Harvey Hahn wrote: Unfortunately, the most limiting aspect of the 24-character leader is that fact that only 5 digits (the first 5 characters of the leader) were specified as the maximum length of a MARC record. Manipulating the various possible values of specific positions in the leader

[CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
Are alpha characters used for field names valid in MARC records? When we do dumps of MARC records our ILS often dumps them with FMT and CAT field names. So not only do I have glorious 246 fields and 100 fields but I also have CAT fields and FMT fields. Are these features of my ILS --

Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Steve Oberg
Eric, This is definitely not a feature of MARC but rather a feature of your local ILS (Aleph 500). Those are local fields for which you'd need to make a translation to a standard MARC field if you wanted to move that information to another system that is based on MARC. Steve On Wed, Jun 25,

Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Bryan Baldus
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Eric Lease Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moreover, does something like Marc4J or MARC::Batch and friends deal with these alpha field names correctly? I believe the Perl modules MARC::Batch/MARC::Record accept records with alphabetic characters as tags.

Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Casey Durfee
Why don't systems use the 900 fields for local stuff like this? That's what they're there for, right? --Casey On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Steve Oberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, This is definitely not a feature of MARC but rather a feature of your local ILS (Aleph 500). Those are

Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Steve Oberg
Ok. What's allowable/possible vs. what is actually defined as part of variable MARC data fields in say MARC21. I'm amused by the hairsplitting. The bottom line is these particular fields are ALEPH specific and are not part of MARC21. I agree with others that accounting for these in whatever

Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Jun 25, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Steve Oberg wrote: Ok. What's allowable/possible vs. what is actually defined as part of variable MARC data fields in say MARC21. I'm amused by the hairsplitting. The bottom line is these particular fields are ALEPH specific and are not part of MARC21. I agree

Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Hahn, Harvey
Eric Lease Morgan wrote: |Who ever heard of an indicator being longer than two characters long? Byte 10 (zero origin) of the MARC leader specifies the number of indicator characters. MARC21 and its predecessors have always specified 2, but the possible range is 0 to 9. The 24-character leader