[CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Kim, Bohyun
I am in a situation in which a university has a set salary guideline for programmer position classifications and if I want to hire an entry-lever dev, the salary is too low to be competitive and if I want to hire a more experienced dev in a higher classification, the competitive salary amount

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Sean Hannan
Would it be possible to re-write this position as a project-based contract? Such a position is more appealing for short-term (part-time) gig-type work and telework types. Also, it helps you out in that if the telework thing doesn¹t work for various reasons, you¹re done with it at the end of the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Aug 15, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Kim, Bohyun wrote: I am in a situation in which a university has a set salary guideline for programmer position classifications and if I want to hire an entry-lever dev, the salary is too low to be competitive and if I want to hire a more experienced dev in a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Eric Phetteplace
My first thought was a project-based contract, too. But there are few programmer projects that would require zero maintenance once finished. As someone who has had to pick up projects completed by others, there are always bugs, gaps in documentation, and difficult upgrade paths. So I have no

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Edward Iglesias
Also keep in mind benefits are increasingly important. If you offer a good job at a decent salary that is not as stressful as some of the higher paying jobs that is a big deal. I have a colleague who just took a $15,000 pay cut to go to work for an ivy that she loves. Edward Iglesias On Fri,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts? [out of context]

2014-08-15 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
...But there are few programmer projects that would require zero maintenance once finished… This is a bit out of context, but a Buddhist monk once said, “Software is never done. If it were, then it would be called hardware.” —Eric Morgan

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2014-08-15 Thread Karen Coyle
On 8/15/14, 10:18 AM, Joe Hourcle wrote: If you can offer them reduced tuition or parking (matters at some campuses) Have you heard what it takes to get your own parking space on Berkeley campus? A Nobel prize. Yep, you get a parking space with a Nobel, and every time there's a new Nobel

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2014-08-15 Thread Jim Gilbert(WTPL)
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2014-08-15 Thread Karen Coyle
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2014-08-15 Thread Jim Gilbert(WTPL)
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Kyle Banerjee
I am in a situation in which a university has a set salary guideline for programmer position classifications and if I want to hire an entry-lever dev, the salary is too low to be competitive and if I want to hire a more experienced dev in a higher classification, the competitive salary amount

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Gary McGath
On 8/15/14 12:44 PM, Kim, Bohyun wrote: I am in a situation in which a university has a set salary guideline for programmer position classifications and if I want to hire an entry-lever dev, the salary is too low to be competitive and if I want to hire a more experienced dev in a higher

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread BWS Johnson
Salvete! My first thought was a project-based contract, too. But there are few programmer projects that would require zero maintenance once finished. As someone who has had to pick up projects completed by others, there are always bugs, gaps in documentation, and difficult upgrade paths.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Eric Phetteplace
Just two cents, maybe even a single cent: at the point where you're writing follow-up contracts to maintain or extend software written for contract, you should probably look into hiring someone. This is a symptom of a lack of investment in things you need. Best, Eric On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Aug 15, 2014, at 2:49 PM, BWS Johnson wrote: Salvete! My first thought was a project-based contract, too. But there are few programmer projects that would require zero maintenance once finished. As someone who has had to pick up projects completed by others, there are always bugs,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Joe Hourcle onei...@grace.nascom.nasa.gov wrote: I've worked in places where we've had issues with people brought in as short-term contract developers. ... so to sum up ... if you don't already have an established relationship with the person, I'd avoid

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Priscilla Caplan
-Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kim, Bohyun Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 12:44 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts? I am in a situation in which

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?

2014-08-15 Thread Kim, Bohyun
matter where they work. Priscilla -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kim, Bohyun Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 12:44 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight