Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-04 Thread Randy Stern
Printed test sheets: http://www.diytrade.com/china/4/products/1707979/IEEE_Resolution_Chart.html?r=0 or http://www.aig-imaging.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODStore_Code=AIIPIProduct_Code=QA-60Category_Code=Video-Scanner-Resolution-Charts At 04:54 PM 5/2/2009 -0700, st...@archive.org wrote:

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-04 Thread Han, Yan
Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Lars Aronsson Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:27 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner? Mike Taylor wrote: Or not. Cheap cameras may well produce JPEGs that contain eight

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-02 Thread Mike Taylor
Joe Atzberger writes: If you want real 300 dpi images, at anything like the quality you get from a flatbed scanner, then you're going to need cameras much more expensive than $100. Or just wait, say, about 3 years. Well, maybe. I guess not, though: the factor limiting image quality

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-02 Thread st...@archive.org
On 5/1/09 8:27 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: Does anybody have a printed test sheet that we can scan or photo, and then compare the resulting digital images? It should have lines at various densities and areas of different colours, just like an old TV test image. Can you buy such calibration

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-02 Thread Lars Aronsson
st...@archive.org wrote: archive.org scans typically include a color card target image near the back (or front) of the book, e.g. That's great. But where do you buy these target cards? And are they useful for testing small compact cameras? An important difference between the bkrpr.org

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-01 Thread Amanda P
On the other hand, there are projects like bkrpr [2] and [3], home-brew scanning stations build for marginally more than the cost of a pair of $100 cameras. Cameras around $100 dollars are very low quality. You could get no where near the dpi recommended for materials that need to be OCRed. The

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-01 Thread William Wueppelmann
Amanda P wrote: Cameras around $100 dollars are very low quality. You could get no where near the dpi recommended for materials that need to be OCRed. The quality of images from cameras would be not only low, but the OCR (even with the best software) would probably have many errors. For someone

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-01 Thread Erik Hetzner
At Fri, 1 May 2009 09:51:19 -0500, Amanda P wrote: On the other hand, there are projects like bkrpr [2] and [3], home-brew scanning stations build for marginally more than the cost of a pair of $100 cameras. Cameras around $100 dollars are very low quality. You could get no where near the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-01 Thread Joe Atzberger
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Mike Taylor m...@indexdata.com wrote: If you want real 300 dpi images, at anything like the quality you get from a flatbed scanner, then you're going to need cameras much more expensive than $100. Or just wait, say, about 3 years.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-01 Thread Han, Yan
@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner? Yeah, I don't think people use cameras instead of flatbed scanners because they produce superior results, or are cheaper: They use them because they're _faster_ for large-scale digitization, and also make it possible to capture pages from rare

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-01 Thread Randy Stern
My understanding is that a flatbed or sheetfed document scanner that produces 300 dpi will produce much better OCR results than a cheap digital camera that produces 300 dpi. The reasons have to do with the resolution and distortion of the resulting image, where resolution is defined as the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-01 Thread Mike Taylor
William Wueppelmann writes: Cameras around $100 dollars are very low quality. You could get no where near the dpi recommended for materials that need to be OCRed. The quality of images from cameras would be not only low, but the OCR (even with the best software) would probably have

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-01 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Yeah, I don't think people use cameras instead of flatbed scanners because they produce superior results, or are cheaper: They use them because they're _faster_ for large-scale digitization, and also make it possible to capture pages from rare/fragile materials with less damage to the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-05-01 Thread Lars Aronsson
Mike Taylor wrote: Or not. Cheap cameras may well produce JPEGs that contain eight million pixels, but that doesn't mean that they are using all or even much of that resolution. Does anybody have a printed test sheet that we can scan or photo, and then compare the resulting digital

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-04-30 Thread Erik Hetzner
At Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:32:08 -0400, Christine Schwartz wrote: We are looking into buying a book scanner which we'll probably use for archival papers as well--probably something in the $1,000.00 range. Any advice? Most organizations, or at least the big ones, Internet Archive and Google,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-04-30 Thread Ethan Gruber
How good are the two-camera apparatuses for scanning things other than books? The thing about the Google and Kirtas scanners is that they are not particularly recommended for dealing with fragile books or otherwise special collections materials. The University of Virginia Library is still using

Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommend book scanner?

2009-04-30 Thread William Wueppelmann
Erik Hetzner wrote: At Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:32:08 -0400, Christine Schwartz wrote: We are looking into buying a book scanner which we'll probably use for archival papers as well--probably something in the $1,000.00 range. Any advice? Most organizations, or at least the big ones, Internet