Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-04-02 Thread Ryan Ordway
The server does have trac installed and a project is/was using it. So if we need to add more projects just let me know, and/or whomever wants to be the point for trac. On Apr 2, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Good point, agreed. But we've got what we've got, and what we've got can w

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-04-02 Thread Robert Forkel
hi all, in case you want to restore trac - presumably with subversion repositories - i'd volunteer to admin these apps. i guess i'm rather unknown, but looking at https://dev.livingreviews.org/projects/ and https://dev.livingreviews.org/projects/epubtk/ and https://dev.livingreviews.org/projects/ep

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-04-02 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Good point, agreed. But we've got what we've got, and what we've got can work better if we don't rely on Ryan (who has another job) only to admin it. Even if we had an agreed moratorium on ever adding anything else, I still think we need to deal with a way to get other code4lib volunteers to have

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-04-02 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Oops, if I said "Jeff" I meant Jeremy/"jaf" of course. Somehow "jaf" turned to "jeff" in my typing fingers, after typing Ryan's actual first name. :) Jeremy Frumkin. Jonathan On 3/21/08 8:13 AM, "Jonathan Rochkind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So as many of you know, OSU is now hosting the cod

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-04-02 Thread Ross Singer
While I have no comment on this particular issue (since nobody wants me adminning *anything*), I would like to propose that before we set up any new services/applications on code4lib.org, we talk about whether or not any of the existing applications have functionality that could suffice. I guess m

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-04-02 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Okay, so new plan for access to code4lib server, since nobody stepped up to want to be an app admin junta. :) Subject to approval by Ryan and Jeff, of course. Recall that Ryan and Jeff at OSU say they are ready to grant shell access to code4libbers, but weren't sure how to figure out _who_ to gr

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-25 Thread Ed Summers
I thought it had cosmic mileage myself... On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Karen Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did, but I assumed I am missing some inside knowledge that would make > it non-comic. > > kc > > Rob Styles wrote: > > On 21 Mar 2008, at 16:23, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: > >> Y

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-25 Thread Karen Coyle
I did, but I assumed I am missing some inside knowledge that would make it non-comic. kc Rob Styles wrote: On 21 Mar 2008, at 16:23, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: You and someone else could run the planet did nobody think the idea that jrochkind and someone else "running the planet" has some comic

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-25 Thread Ross Singer
"I don't want the world, I just want your half." --Jonathan Rochkind, 2008 more or less -Ross. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Rob Styles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 21 Mar 2008, at 16:23, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: > > You and someone else could > > run the planet > > did nobody think the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-25 Thread Rob Styles
On 21 Mar 2008, at 16:23, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: You and someone else could run the planet did nobody think the idea that jrochkind and someone else "running the planet" has some comic mileage? rob

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-21 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Yeah, I've been talking to Ryan and Jeremy on this too, but perhaps they can chime in. What we're talking about should be within the realm of possibility on the OSU hosted server, I think. They've got it fairly isolated from the rest of the OSU stuff, I think. Ryan Ordway, as part of his job at

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-21 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I think that by allowing a larger group of people in, we get more done and have _better_ services. But there's definitely a balancing act, between stability and more hands. I don't want to see it balanced too much toward stability 'guarantees' thou

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-21 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So maybe that's the answer right there. We find 2-3 people to take > _primary_ app-level responsibility for code4lib.org (ryan ordway still > has primary OS-level responsibility), and they are the junta. If someone

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-21 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I think that by allowing a larger group of people in, we get more done and have _better_ services. But there's definitely a balancing act, between stability and more hands. I don't want to see it balanced too much toward stability 'guarantees' though. Letting in people we trust to know what they

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-21 Thread Ed Summers
I agree in as much as I think there needs to be a clear avenue for new people to get involved...and not just knowing the right person to ask at the right time of day on IRC. On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Roy Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this is yet another example of the group

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-21 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pre-OSU hosting, code4lib > was hosted by a defined group of code4libbers who chipped in for hosting > fees, and were the only ones who had shell access. If you wanted shell > access, as I understand it, you'd have

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-21 Thread Roy Tennant
I think this is yet another example of the group maturing to the point of needing a tad more structure. One way we can provide this is to elect a board that manages administrative stuff like this. But to do that we'd probably need some bylaws, even if not formally part of a 501c3 process. The bylaw

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-21 Thread Ed Summers
Speaking of the *.code4lib.org domain .. if there's a code4lib service you'd like to offer on your own server and want it at the code4lib domain let me know and I'll add an ARECORD for you to DNS.

[CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-21 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
So as many of you know, OSU is now hosting the code4lib.org server, with the various code4lib community apps running on it. Jeremy Frumkin's group hosts it, and Ryan Ordway does the heavy sysadmin lifting. They're now ready to start granting other people shell access to the machine to manage/admi