Re: [CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

2009-05-04 Thread Andreas Orphanides

You say that as though libraries are all about books.


Alexander Johannesen wrote:

Another nail in the library coffin, especially the academic ones ;

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TIOH80Qg7Q

Organisations and people are slowly turning into data producers, not
book producers.


Alex


Re: [CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

2009-05-04 Thread Joe Hourcle

On Mon, 4 May 2009, Alexander Johannesen wrote:


Another nail in the library coffin, especially the academic ones ;

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TIOH80Qg7Q

Organisations and people are slowly turning into data producers, not
book producers.



You're forgetting the 5th Law:

The library is a growing organism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_laws_of_library_science


-
Joe Hourcle


Re: [CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

2009-05-04 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 23:25, Joe Hourcle onei...@grace.nascom.nasa.gov wrote:
 You're forgetting the 5th Law:
        The library is a growing organism.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_laws_of_library_science

Not forgotten, I just don't believe it anymore. And, taken to its
natural consequence, organisms through evolution comes and goes. :)


Alex
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

2009-05-04 Thread jimm wetherbee
Alexander Johannesen wrote:

 Libraries still have the word biblio as their primer, and it
 certainly is the written word on paper that occupies most of our time,
 no? 
And one still dials phone numbers on a cell phone.  To be honest, most
of our efforts are with databases or getting apps, such as spreadsheets,
to perform as students expect.  To the extent that we work with print
resources, it is when the students have tried everything else.

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Re: [CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

2009-05-04 Thread Mike McDermott
Alexander - Maybe you had forgotten that you are posting this to
CODE4LIB... :-)

 You say that as though libraries are all about books.

 Libraries still have the word biblio as their primer, and it
 certainly is the written word on paper that occupies most of our time,
 no?


Re: [CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

2009-05-04 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 22:44, Andreas Orphanides
andreas_orphani...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 You say that as though libraries are all about books.

Libraries still have the word biblio as their primer, and it
certainly is the written word on paper that occupies most of our time,
no? Sure libraries around the world are trying to play catch-up in the
digital and modern world with all sorts of things, but the primary
directive is still books for most librarians. Not sure what you mean
they're *really* into?


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Re: [CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

2009-05-04 Thread Ranti Junus
I always intrigued with everything that has knowledge management or
information management aspect of it. I'm more intrigued with the
possibility that this tool might be able to work on presenting the
information based on the context.

Scouring the Twine site gave me this:

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/see_wolfram_alpha_in_action_-_video_and_screenshots.php

I personally think this is a darn cool stuff, from the computing point
of view.  I'll wait until it's out sometime this month to see what
kind of results I would get.


ranti.


On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Alexander Johannesen
alexander.johanne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another nail in the library coffin, especially the academic ones ;

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TIOH80Qg7Q

 Organisations and people are slowly turning into data producers, not
 book producers.


 Alex
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

2009-05-04 Thread Frumkin, Jeremy
Seems more like a conversation for web4lib than code4lib, however, I always 
find it intriguing that somehow there is this notion that technology and 
libraries are at odds. While Alexander talks about this being another nail in 
the coffin, I look at this (and other emerging technologies) are new support 
and information tools that can be used by libraries. Hmmm.

-- jaf

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-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Ranti 
Junus
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:26 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

I always intrigued with everything that has knowledge management or
information management aspect of it. I'm more intrigued with the
possibility that this tool might be able to work on presenting the
information based on the context.

Scouring the Twine site gave me this:

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/see_wolfram_alpha_in_action_-_video_and_screenshots.php

I personally think this is a darn cool stuff, from the computing point
of view.  I'll wait until it's out sometime this month to see what
kind of results I would get.


ranti.


On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Alexander Johannesen
alexander.johanne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another nail in the library coffin, especially the academic ones ;

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TIOH80Qg7Q

 Organisations and people are slowly turning into data producers, not
 book producers.


 Alex
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

2009-05-04 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
My favorite part is when he ask the software to return a bibliographic  
record  matching 245 10$aFaust.$nPart one

and the computer literally catches fire.

Artificial intelligence is no match for the MARC format.



On May 4, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Frumkin, Jeremy wrote:

Seems more like a conversation for web4lib than code4lib, however, I  
always find it intriguing that somehow there is this notion that  
technology and libraries are at odds. While Alexander talks about  
this being another nail in the coffin, I look at this (and other  
emerging technologies) are new support and information tools that  
can be used by libraries. Hmmm.


-- jaf

==
Jeremy Frumkin
Assistant Dean / Chief Technology Strategist
University of Arizona Libraries

frumk...@u.library.arizona.edu
+1 520.307.4548
==

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf  
Of Ranti Junus

Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:26 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

I always intrigued with everything that has knowledge management or
information management aspect of it. I'm more intrigued with the
possibility that this tool might be able to work on presenting the
information based on the context.

Scouring the Twine site gave me this:

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/see_wolfram_alpha_in_action_-_video_and_screenshots.php

I personally think this is a darn cool stuff, from the computing point
of view.  I'll wait until it's out sometime this month to see what
kind of results I would get.


ranti.


On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Alexander Johannesen
alexander.johanne...@gmail.com wrote:

Another nail in the library coffin, especially the academic ones ;

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TIOH80Qg7Q

Organisations and people are slowly turning into data producers, not
book producers.


Alex
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[CODE4LIB] Another nail in the coffin

2009-05-03 Thread Alexander Johannesen
Another nail in the library coffin, especially the academic ones ;

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TIOH80Qg7Q

Organisations and people are slowly turning into data producers, not
book producers.


Alex
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