Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-30 Thread Sean Hannan
emolanphy++ I, too, being a closet design nerd, would also volunteer to be on some sort of committee. -Sean Emily Molanphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/29/08 4:51 PM Ignite, Drupal, Ubuntu, OLPC and lots of other tech groups have logos and brand identities. Actually some of the best- known logos

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-30 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Ranti Junus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a side note, I'll go for the temporary tattoos. Also a sticker that I can put on my laptop. ;-) Just temporary tattoos? Where are the good tattoo shops in Providence, RI? ;-) Kevin -- There are two kinds of people

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-29 Thread [Amanda Hartman]
PROTECTED] Website: www.amandahartman.com -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Schneider Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:32 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo? I agree on the need for branding, and on offering

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-29 Thread Wally Grotophorst
I'll vote no on a logo. Not interested in adopting corporate mentality. -- Wally Jonathan Rochkind wrote: To me, a committee of volunteers that anyone interested can be on _is_ a community decision. This is sort of a philosophical discussion/debate we've had before. Some people think

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-29 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me, a committee of volunteers that anyone interested can be on _is_ a community decision. Yeah, I'm fine with this too (kind of). I would be against a committee that wasn't open to whomever wanted to join (like,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-29 Thread Ranti Junus
The key to working with a professional is in identiyfing the design program — what the organization's story is, who its community is, and who you want to get your message to with the branding, as well as identifying what uses the logo will be used for — print, promotional items (t-shirts,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-29 Thread Jay Luker
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Michael J. Giarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If folks are in favor of someone in the community -- the list now has over 1,000 subscribers -- rather than a professional designing the logo, perhaps this could be a contest of sorts, much like our conference t-shirt

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-29 Thread Stephanie Brinley
Dear Code4Lib, Because I'm not a coder or a librarian, I am not a member of the Code4Lib community. However, my husband Jonathan, who is a member, told me about the logo thread Roy started last week. As a professional designer, I agree with Roy that Code4Lib could use a well-designed logo to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-29 Thread Stephanie Brinley
Dear Code4Lib, Because I'm not a coder or a librarian, I am not a member of the Code4Lib community. However, my husband Jonathan, who is a member, told me about the logo thread Roy started last week. As a professional designer, I agree with Roy that Code4Lib could use a well-designed logo to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-29 Thread Edward Corrado
I should clarify for those who might not have been following this thread closely, Stephanie Brinley said that she was volunteering to create a logo for code4lib. Options 1 and 3 would both cost us some money, whereas option 2 would be free of charge. Edward Edward M. Corrado wrote: I am

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-29 Thread Emily Molanphy
Ignite, Drupal, Ubuntu, OLPC and lots of other tech groups have logos and brand identities. Actually some of the best-known logos are for non-profits--I'll bet most of us can mentally summon the United Way logo, no problem. I don't see it as a corpporate gesture. Code4Lib is a group that people

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-29 Thread Joe Atzberger
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Nicolas Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:56 PM, wally grotophorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll risk ostracism and admit that I think this concern with a logo is a little too corporate for my sensibilities. But then that'd be part

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-29 Thread Tom Keays
I submit this for a logo: http://code4lib.org/themes/panizzi/panizzi-watermark.png Flogging the I don't give a rat's ass vote since 1 minute ago. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we've been getting a variety of responses to my suggestion that now

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-29 Thread Ed Summers
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me, a committee of volunteers that anyone interested can be on _is_ a community decision. Well it all depends on how the committee is selected doesn't it? If it's people who care enough to volunteer, and are

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-29 Thread Stephanie Brinley
In regards to ownership and trademarks... Typically, the client has full ownership of a logo to use however they wish. Since Code4Lib technically can't own the logo, I would recommend having the logo released under the Attribution-NoDerivshttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/CC License.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-29 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Thomas Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about trademark ownership and permissions for any logo? I'd hate to see any conflict or misunderstanding down the road about who can put the logo on what, who can sell t-shirts with it, etc. Good questions. I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-29 Thread Kyle Banerjee
I find this debate interesting. In the regular world, whenever there is a revolution somewhere, the new government typically spends insane amounts of energy renaming streets and other symbols. Anyone that's been involve in a website design knows that you'll spend an eternity in font and color

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-29 Thread Cloutman, David
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo? Before hiring a professional, I suggest we tap into our own resources first. I personally have designed several logos for companies and websites (in some cases I was even paid!), but am by no means professionally trained, nor do I consider myself a professional

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-29 Thread Cloutman, David
-Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin S. Clarke Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:52 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Thomas Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about trademark

[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-23 Thread Stephanie Brinley
Dear Code4Lib, Because I'm not a coder or a librarian, I am not a member of the Code4Lib community. However, my husband Jonathan, who is a member, told me about the logo thread Roy started last week. As a professional designer, I agree with Roy that Code4Lib could use a well-designed logo to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-23 Thread Carol Bean
I don't know who Roy or the others have in mind, but I like what I see at adeliedesign.com. Given her requirements, which don't seem too unreasonable, I wonder if we could start with the code4lib community making the choice of which designer to work with? Carol On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:47 AM,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-23 Thread Edward M. Corrado
I am still not convinced we need a professional designed logo, but it seems most people who responded to this thread do, so I'm happy to go along with it. Personally, I'd just type code4lib in Helvitica, save it as a .png and be done with it :-). Compared to the other links we have seen, I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-23 Thread wally grotophorst
I'll risk ostracism and admit that I think this concern with a logo is a little too corporate for my sensibilities. -- Wally On Sep 23, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: I am still not convinced we need a professional designed logo, but it seems most people who responded to this

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-23 Thread Nicolas Morin
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:56 PM, wally grotophorst [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'll risk ostracism and admit that I think this concern with a logo is a little too corporate for my sensibilities. But then that'd be part of the guidelines given to the designer: the logo shouldn't look too corporate

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-23 Thread Thomas Dowling
On 09/23/2008 09:38 AM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: Personally, I'd just type code4lib in Helvitica, save it as a .png and be done with it A proprietary font? I suspect that DejaVu Sans Mono is more simpatico with code4lib. :-) Has there been any other options discussed (or that should be

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-23 Thread Edward M. Corrado
Thomas Dowling wrote: On 09/23/2008 09:38 AM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: Personally, I'd just type code4lib in Helvitica, save it as a .png and be done with it A proprietary font? I suspect that DejaVu Sans Mono is more simpatico with code4lib. :-) Well, if we are going to pay

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

2008-09-23 Thread Roy Tennant
Since we've been getting a variety of responses to my suggestion that now may be a good time to establish a graphic identity for Code4Lib, I've set up a poll to try to gauge the sense of the community on this issue. Please see http://code4lib.org/node/256. Roy

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-22 Thread Leslie Johnston
I also volunteer Roy for this. g The key to working with a professional is in identiyfing the design program — what the organization's story is, who its community is, and who you want to get your message to with the branding, as well as identifying what uses the logo will be used for — print,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-22 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
To me, a committee of volunteers that anyone interested can be on _is_ a community decision. This is sort of a philosophical discussion/debate we've had before. Some people think community democracy contradicts having a certain specific committee, community democracy requires that everyone

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-22 Thread Cloutman, David
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Summers Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:41 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo? How about we allow anyone to submit ideas, and use some of the $$ like Roy suggested to get a professional one from someone--and then we vote

[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-21 Thread Karen Schneider
I agree on the need for branding, and on offering the community several professionally-developed choices. I worded that carefully. I'd like to see a professionally-designed logo for the same reason I like to watch good software developers at work: the quality of effort doth pleaseth the citizens.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-21 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Edward M. Corrado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am all for a logo, but I also agree with Kevin it needs to be a community based decision. I'm also not sold that we need a professional designed logo, but I'm not against it either. If folks are in favor of someone

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-21 Thread [Luis Herrera]
In the case of logo, as in many other cases, a professional hand is most appropriate. Experience indicates that the result does not only depend on good wishes, common sense and aesthetics. Who would have imagined that Googles´s colored balls would be the right thing for that brand?. As said

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-21 Thread Ed Summers
How about we allow anyone to submit ideas, and use some of the $$ like Roy suggested to get a professional one from someone--and then we vote on all of them? I nominate Roy for coordinating the pro-design, and the vote :-) //Ed

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-21 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
+1 I like Rob's idea. It seems in the same vein as code4lib as an (un)organization. Kevin On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Rob Casson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: think it's a swell ideasolr is looking at a new logo, and this site came up on-list: http://99designs.com/ not

[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Roy Tennant
I was in the middle of writing a blog post about Code4Lib going regional when it hit me -- here we have this incredibly successful brand and yet we lack a t-shirt. But I guess we lack a t-shirt because we lack a logo to put on it. The closest we get are the items that decorate our web site. Are we

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
I like the idea. A real logo would be nice. My one caveat is I'd still like everyone who'd like to have a voice to have one (I like voting). I'd be less in favor of a committee of volunteers to make the decision. I don't know how that would work with a professional graphic designer though.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Roy Tennant
I don't see that as a problem at all, typically designers will start with a few ideas, get feedback from the client, then make the final. The vote could identify the leading candidate, but then we would likely need to give some final guidance to the designer which would need to be distilled from

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Carol Bean
Well, looking at Software Freedom Day, which has somehow managed to get itself a logo with virtually no organizational infrastructure, I don't see why Code4Lib shouldn't. I suspect their logo design wasn't done by amateurs, however, even if they were volunteers. Of course they have a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Edward M. Corrado
I am all for a logo, but I also agree with Kevin it needs to be a community based decision. I'm also not sold that we need a professional designed logo, but I'm not against it either. I can understand why a business would not want to leave it to amateurs (although I have seen some great logos

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Rob Casson
think it's a swell ideasolr is looking at a new logo, and this site came up on-list: http://99designs.com/ not endorsing, or painting a bikeshedjust a heads-up. rc