Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Francis Kayiwa

On 1/26/15 10:06 AM, Mark A. Matienzo wrote:

Thanks, Galen. I'm solidly +1 on this, and I would be very happy to hear if
there were some sort of mechanism in place for the 2015 conference. I do
realize that this might add to the burden of the host committee, so I'd be
happy to help make this happen.


Would this be an acceptable solution?

I purchase these (will work out details for number with local cmte) 
prior to my arrival.


http://www.staples.com/Avery-5795-Round-1-4-inch-Diameter-Color-Coding-Labels-Assorted-Colors/product_298182

I can leave these with the registration desk. (Based on the picture 
there) it looks like it has the red, yellow, green colours.


During registration users can pick their preferred colour and affix 
those to their name badges. Admittedly not as visible as a lanyard but 
we have to start some place.


Cheers,
./fxk



Mark



--
Q:  What is printed on the bottom of beer bottles in Minnesota?
A:  Open other end.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
Thanks, Galen. I'm solidly +1 on this, and I would be very happy to hear if
there were some sort of mechanism in place for the 2015 conference. I do
realize that this might add to the burden of the host committee, so I'd be
happy to help make this happen.

Mark


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Andreas Orphanides
One potential problem with ribbons is that there may be ribbon-fans who
also don't want to be photographed, and a blank ribbon in the midst of a
sea of others might get lost.

One option might  be to choose a bright color (red might be a good
mnemonic) and have participants who don't want to be photoed put it on the
SIDE of their badge -- the special location would be a good indicator that
the ribbon has importance and would make it stand out. We'd need to ensure
that everyone got the message about what the ribbon meant, though.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Becky Yoose b.yo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Francis,

 Another thing you could do is to buy blank ribbons; see

 http://www.pcnametag.com/4-x-1-5-8-custom-name-badge-ribbon-blank-item-sscusb
 for an example. These would be more visible, at least, though the green
 might conflict with the darker green First timer badge ribbons I have for
 the conference.

 Thanks,
 Becky

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Francis Kayiwa kay...@pobox.com wrote:

  On 1/26/15 10:06 AM, Mark A. Matienzo wrote:
 
  Thanks, Galen. I'm solidly +1 on this, and I would be very happy to hear
  if
  there were some sort of mechanism in place for the 2015 conference. I do
  realize that this might add to the burden of the host committee, so I'd
 be
  happy to help make this happen.
 
 
  Would this be an acceptable solution?
 
  I purchase these (will work out details for number with local cmte) prior
  to my arrival.
 
  http://www.staples.com/Avery-5795-Round-1-4-inch-Diameter-
  Color-Coding-Labels-Assorted-Colors/product_298182
 
  I can leave these with the registration desk. (Based on the picture
 there)
  it looks like it has the red, yellow, green colours.
 
  During registration users can pick their preferred colour and affix those
  to their name badges. Admittedly not as visible as a lanyard but we have
 to
  start some place.
 
  Cheers,
  ./fxk
 
 
  Mark
 
 
  --
  Q:  What is printed on the bottom of beer bottles in Minnesota?
  A:  Open other end.
 



Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Becky Yoose
Francis,

Another thing you could do is to buy blank ribbons; see
http://www.pcnametag.com/4-x-1-5-8-custom-name-badge-ribbon-blank-item-sscusb
for an example. These would be more visible, at least, though the green
might conflict with the darker green First timer badge ribbons I have for
the conference.

Thanks,
Becky

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Francis Kayiwa kay...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 1/26/15 10:06 AM, Mark A. Matienzo wrote:

 Thanks, Galen. I'm solidly +1 on this, and I would be very happy to hear
 if
 there were some sort of mechanism in place for the 2015 conference. I do
 realize that this might add to the burden of the host committee, so I'd be
 happy to help make this happen.


 Would this be an acceptable solution?

 I purchase these (will work out details for number with local cmte) prior
 to my arrival.

 http://www.staples.com/Avery-5795-Round-1-4-inch-Diameter-
 Color-Coding-Labels-Assorted-Colors/product_298182

 I can leave these with the registration desk. (Based on the picture there)
 it looks like it has the red, yellow, green colours.

 During registration users can pick their preferred colour and affix those
 to their name badges. Admittedly not as visible as a lanyard but we have to
 start some place.

 Cheers,
 ./fxk


 Mark


 --
 Q:  What is printed on the bottom of beer bottles in Minnesota?
 A:  Open other end.



[CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Galen Charlton
Hi,

I would like to propose that C4L adopt a policy requiring that consent
be explicitly given to be photographed or recorded, along the lines of
a policy adopted by the Evergreen Project. [1]

Evergreen's policy was adapted from AdaCamp's photography policy. A
blog post from Ada Initiative outlines their reasons for adopting the
policy [2], but to summarize, some people simply dislike being
photographed, while for others, being photographed without their
consent or knowledge could expose them to personal danger (e.g., from
stalkers).

Consequently, it is possible that some folks who would otherwise be
interested in going to Code4Lib may be unable or unwilling to attend
absent a policy that allows them to opt into being photographed.
Whether or not that is currently the case, I have heard from people
who have expressed discomfort with being photographed.

In the past, such policies have been implemented via use of colored
(and patterned) lanyards.  If such a policy is adopted, it may be
impractical to source such lanyards in time for the 2015 conference,
but alternatives such as stickers may be doable.  But regardless of
whether a photography policy is adopted, I would encourage attendees
to ask for consent before taking photographs.

[1] http://evergreen-ils.org/conference/photography-policy/
[2] 
https://adainitiative.org/2013/07/another-way-to-attract-women-to-conferences-photography-policies/

Regards,

Galen
-- 
Galen Charlton
Manager of Implementation
Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts
email:  g...@esilibrary.com
direct: +1 770-709-5581
cell:   +1 404-984-4366
skype:  gmcharlt
web:http://www.esilibrary.com/
Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org 
http://evergreen-ils.org


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Galen Charlton
Hi,

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Galen Charlton g...@esilibrary.com wrote:
 For folks' consideration, here is a draft of the policy, which is
 based on the Evergreen and AdaCamp policies and adapted to C4L's needs
 and the feedback so far in this thread:

 https://gist.github.com/gmcharlt/8546dcb0ce2af580a476

Also, I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge that Kathy Lussier
spearheaded the adoption of the Evergreen Project's policy.

Regards,

Galen
-- 
Galen Charlton
Manager of Implementation
Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts
email:  g...@esilibrary.com
direct: +1 770-709-5581
cell:   +1 404-984-4366
skype:  gmcharlt
web:http://www.esilibrary.com/
Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org 
http://evergreen-ils.org


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Cary Gordon
I think that requiring explicit permission from presenters is overly burdensome 
for the crew that is struggling to get the recordings up. I think that speakers 
and presenters should be informed that all presentations may be recorded and 
made available to the public unless they inform the conference committee that 
they do not want to be recorded before their presentation begins.

If they object, the video crew will refrain from capturing their presentation.

If we do screen capture again, it is possible that presenter could have the 
option of allowing us to record their voice and screen. 

Cary

 On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 
 We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that the
 plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time, so that we
 can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be broadcast. It
 would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent to it; nor would we
 want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust for an unexpected
 dissent that should/could have been expected.
 
 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson trobert...@langara.bc.ca
 wrote:
 
 I love this conversation.
 
 WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is to
 stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters sign a
 consent form agreeing to this.
 
 Tara
 
 
 
 On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
 
 Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.
 
 Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state that
 presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.
 
 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
 
  Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate
 requests
 
 from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis
 conference
 webcast?
 
 A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone turned
 off
 the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.
 
 Bill
 --
 William Denton ↔  Toronto, Canada ↔  https://www.miskatonic.org/
 
 
 
 --
 
 Tara Robertson
 
 Accessibility Librarian, CAPER-BC http://caperbc.ca/
 T  604.323.5254
 F  604.323.5954
 trobert...@langara.bc.ca mailto:Tara%20Robertson%20%
 3ctrobert...@langara.bc.ca%3E
 
 Langara. http://www.langara.bc.ca
 
 100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 2Z6
 


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Sarah Shealy
What more would be required than just putting a sheet of paper in front of the 
lens while filming? Honestly curious.
Sarah

 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:00:05 -0800
 From: listu...@chillco.com
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 
 I think that requiring explicit permission from presenters is overly 
 burdensome for the crew that is struggling to get the recordings up. I think 
 that speakers and presenters should be informed that all presentations may be 
 recorded and made available to the public unless they inform the conference 
 committee that they do not want to be recorded before their presentation 
 begins.
 
 If they object, the video crew will refrain from capturing their presentation.
 
 If we do screen capture again, it is possible that presenter could have the 
 option of allowing us to record their voice and screen. 
 
 Cary
 
  On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote:
  
  We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that the
  plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time, so that we
  can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be broadcast. It
  would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent to it; nor would we
  want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust for an unexpected
  dissent that should/could have been expected.
  
  On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson trobert...@langara.bc.ca
  wrote:
  
  I love this conversation.
  
  WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is to
  stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters sign a
  consent form agreeing to this.
  
  Tara
  
  
  
  On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
  
  Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.
  
  Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state that
  presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.
  
  On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:
  
  On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
  
   Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate
  requests
  
  from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis
  conference
  webcast?
  
  A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone turned
  off
  the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.
  
  Bill
  --
  William Denton ↔  Toronto, Canada ↔  https://www.miskatonic.org/
  
  
  
  --
  
  Tara Robertson
  
  Accessibility Librarian, CAPER-BC http://caperbc.ca/
  T  604.323.5254
  F  604.323.5954
  trobert...@langara.bc.ca mailto:Tara%20Robertson%20%
  3ctrobert...@langara.bc.ca%3E
  
  Langara. http://www.langara.bc.ca
  
  100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 2Z6
  
  

Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Andreas Orphanides
Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate requests
from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis conference
webcast? Is webcasting incompatible with the photo policy? Do presenters
tacitly consent to being filmed/broadcast as presenters?

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Mark A. Matienzo mark.matie...@gmail.com
wrote:

 host_committee++

 Re: policy, it seems like the AdaCamp policies are a good match to follow
 (e.g. http://montreal.adacamp.org/policies/#photo).

 It appears Evergreen has a policy based on AdaCamp's policy, with more
 detailed guidelines: 
 http://evergreen-ils.org/conference/photography-policy/

 Mark


 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Tom Johnson 
 johnson.tom+code4...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  This conversation moved fast!  The host committee is purchasing colored
  lanyards (red, yellow, green) which can be used as photography consent
  indicators.
 
  Maybe someone can help us nail down a good policy and approach for
  communicating it?
 
  - Tom
 
  On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Sarah Shealy sarah.she...@outlook.com
  wrote:
 
   I see your point, nothing is 100% effective. Especially anywhere more
  than
   4 or 5 people gather. I would think the first year of implementation
  would
   be more of a 'let everyone know' type deal. And the MC can also point
 out
   any changes in policy (not just this one) during breaks.
   However, with the lanyards/whatnot, the instances of unwanted
 photographs
   should go down. If you don't wear a badge/lanyard/etc you won't really
  have
   to worry about it. I'd suggest we have an addition to the policy that
   basically reads We understand that many people will not know about
 this
   policy, and on a first incident someone taking an unwanted photograph
 is
   told about the policy. Afterwards, the case(s) will be handled as
   determined by x. There should also be a part that says If the
   lanyard/badge/whatnot is not clearly visible, the picture taker should
 be
   informed of the issue and remove the image from the phone/camera. No
 one
   can control what happens to participants outside of the venue,
   unfortunately, but hopefully other Code4Libbers would still abide by
 the
   policy.
   This isn't meant to restrict your freedom or get people in trouble.
 It's
   to protect those who feel they need protection. I wouldn't use a
   lanyard/badge/whatnot personally (if voluntary - if you have to choose
 a
   color on registration, obviously I would), but I'm not going to make
  others
   feel as though they're in the wrong for choosing to do it.
   Did all of that make sense?
   Sarah
  
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:52:18 -0800
From: kyle.baner...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
   
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Galen Charlton g...@esilibrary.com
   wrote:
   
 I would like to propose that C4L adopt a policy requiring that
  consent
 be explicitly given to be photographed or recorded, along the lines
  of
 a policy adopted by the Evergreen Project. [1]

   
As a practical matter, this is functionally equivalent to prohibiting
photography except for arranged photos which will need something
 simple
(like pictures of  cameras and mikes with slashes through them posted
throughout the venue) to communicate the policy. Differential badges,
lanyards, etc will not always be visible, and not all people will
  notice
them, be aware of what they mean, or can be assumed to be familiar
  with a
written policy. On an aside note, a lot of activity occurs outside
 the
official venues and it is in these areas where people might be most
vulnerable to unwanted photos.
   
kyle
  
  
 



Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread William Denton

On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:


Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate requests
from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis conference
webcast?


A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone turned off the 
camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.


Bill
--
William Denton ↔  Toronto, Canada ↔  https://www.miskatonic.org/

Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread LeVan,Ralph
I think this is all good stuff too, but my old Hippy soul cringes at 
unnecessary paperwork.  A consent form means nothing.  Situations change.  Even 
a well-intended agreement sometimes needs to be reneged on.  I think it's just 
best that the presenters understand what the best hopes for their presentation 
are, that they express what their actual plans are and the hosts need to be 
flexible enough to accommodate changes.

Ralph

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Tara 
Robertson
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:56 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Conference photography policy

I love this conversation.

WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is to stream and 
record. It would be good practice to have presenters sign a consent form 
agreeing to this.

Tara


On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
 Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.

 Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state that 
 presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

   Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate 
 requests
 from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis 
 conference webcast?

 A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone 
 turned off the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.

 Bill
 --
 William Denton ↔  Toronto, Canada ↔  https://www.miskatonic.org/


-- 

Tara Robertson

Accessibility Librarian, CAPER-BC http://caperbc.ca/ T  604.323.5254 F  
604.323.5954 trobert...@langara.bc.ca 
mailto:tara%20robertson%20%3ctrobert...@langara.bc.ca%3E

Langara. http://www.langara.bc.ca

100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 2Z6


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Andreas Orphanides
Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.

Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state that
presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

  Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate requests
 from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis
 conference
 webcast?


 A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone turned off
 the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.

 Bill
 --
 William Denton ↔  Toronto, Canada ↔  https://www.miskatonic.org/


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Andreas Orphanides
We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that the
plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time, so that we
can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be broadcast. It
would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent to it; nor would we
want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust for an unexpected
dissent that should/could have been expected.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson trobert...@langara.bc.ca
wrote:

 I love this conversation.

 WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is to
 stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters sign a
 consent form agreeing to this.

 Tara



 On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

 Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.

 Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state that
 presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:

  On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

   Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate
 requests

 from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis
 conference
 webcast?

  A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone turned
 off
 the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.

 Bill
 --
 William Denton ↔  Toronto, Canada ↔  https://www.miskatonic.org/



 --

 Tara Robertson

 Accessibility Librarian, CAPER-BC http://caperbc.ca/
 T  604.323.5254
 F  604.323.5954
 trobert...@langara.bc.ca mailto:Tara%20Robertson%20%
 3ctrobert...@langara.bc.ca%3E

 Langara. http://www.langara.bc.ca

 100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 2Z6



Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Galen Charlton
Hi,

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Tom Johnson
johnson.tom+code4...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe someone can help us nail down a good policy and approach for
 communicating it?

For folks' consideration, here is a draft of the policy, which is
based on the Evergreen and AdaCamp policies and adapted to C4L's needs
and the feedback so far in this thread:

https://gist.github.com/gmcharlt/8546dcb0ce2af580a476

Regards,

Galen
-- 
Galen Charlton
Manager of Implementation
Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts
email:  g...@esilibrary.com
direct: +1 770-709-5581
cell:   +1 404-984-4366
skype:  gmcharlt
web:http://www.esilibrary.com/
Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org 
http://evergreen-ils.org


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Tara Robertson

I love this conversation.

WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is to 
stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters sign a 
consent form agreeing to this.


Tara


On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.

Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state that
presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:


On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

  Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate requests

from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis
conference
webcast?


A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone turned off
the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.

Bill
--
William Denton ↔  Toronto, Canada ↔  https://www.miskatonic.org/



--

Tara Robertson

Accessibility Librarian, CAPER-BC http://caperbc.ca/
T  604.323.5254
F  604.323.5954
trobert...@langara.bc.ca 
mailto:tara%20robertson%20%3ctrobert...@langara.bc.ca%3E


Langara. http://www.langara.bc.ca

100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 2Z6


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
host_committee++

Re: policy, it seems like the AdaCamp policies are a good match to follow
(e.g. http://montreal.adacamp.org/policies/#photo).

It appears Evergreen has a policy based on AdaCamp's policy, with more
detailed guidelines: 
http://evergreen-ils.org/conference/photography-policy/

Mark


On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Tom Johnson johnson.tom+code4...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 This conversation moved fast!  The host committee is purchasing colored
 lanyards (red, yellow, green) which can be used as photography consent
 indicators.

 Maybe someone can help us nail down a good policy and approach for
 communicating it?

 - Tom

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Sarah Shealy sarah.she...@outlook.com
 wrote:

  I see your point, nothing is 100% effective. Especially anywhere more
 than
  4 or 5 people gather. I would think the first year of implementation
 would
  be more of a 'let everyone know' type deal. And the MC can also point out
  any changes in policy (not just this one) during breaks.
  However, with the lanyards/whatnot, the instances of unwanted photographs
  should go down. If you don't wear a badge/lanyard/etc you won't really
 have
  to worry about it. I'd suggest we have an addition to the policy that
  basically reads We understand that many people will not know about this
  policy, and on a first incident someone taking an unwanted photograph is
  told about the policy. Afterwards, the case(s) will be handled as
  determined by x. There should also be a part that says If the
  lanyard/badge/whatnot is not clearly visible, the picture taker should be
  informed of the issue and remove the image from the phone/camera. No one
  can control what happens to participants outside of the venue,
  unfortunately, but hopefully other Code4Libbers would still abide by the
  policy.
  This isn't meant to restrict your freedom or get people in trouble. It's
  to protect those who feel they need protection. I wouldn't use a
  lanyard/badge/whatnot personally (if voluntary - if you have to choose a
  color on registration, obviously I would), but I'm not going to make
 others
  feel as though they're in the wrong for choosing to do it.
  Did all of that make sense?
  Sarah
 
   Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:52:18 -0800
   From: kyle.baner...@gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
   To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
  
   On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Galen Charlton g...@esilibrary.com
  wrote:
  
I would like to propose that C4L adopt a policy requiring that
 consent
be explicitly given to be photographed or recorded, along the lines
 of
a policy adopted by the Evergreen Project. [1]
   
  
   As a practical matter, this is functionally equivalent to prohibiting
   photography except for arranged photos which will need something simple
   (like pictures of  cameras and mikes with slashes through them posted
   throughout the venue) to communicate the policy. Differential badges,
   lanyards, etc will not always be visible, and not all people will
 notice
   them, be aware of what they mean, or can be assumed to be familiar
 with a
   written policy. On an aside note, a lot of activity occurs outside the
   official venues and it is in these areas where people might be most
   vulnerable to unwanted photos.
  
   kyle
 
 



Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Galen Charlton
Hi,

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Tom Johnson
johnson.tom+code4...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe someone can help us nail down a good policy and approach for
 communicating it?

Besides putting the final version of the policy on the conference
website, I think mentioning it (and for that matter, the general code
of conduct) during the announcements and housekeeping periods each
morning would be a good way to do it.  For next year, it could be
included on the registration website, and if the conference does
speaker agreements, they could include an opt-in for photography and
recording.

Regards,

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Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Tom Johnson
This conversation moved fast!  The host committee is purchasing colored
lanyards (red, yellow, green) which can be used as photography consent
indicators.

Maybe someone can help us nail down a good policy and approach for
communicating it?

- Tom

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Sarah Shealy sarah.she...@outlook.com
wrote:

 I see your point, nothing is 100% effective. Especially anywhere more than
 4 or 5 people gather. I would think the first year of implementation would
 be more of a 'let everyone know' type deal. And the MC can also point out
 any changes in policy (not just this one) during breaks.
 However, with the lanyards/whatnot, the instances of unwanted photographs
 should go down. If you don't wear a badge/lanyard/etc you won't really have
 to worry about it. I'd suggest we have an addition to the policy that
 basically reads We understand that many people will not know about this
 policy, and on a first incident someone taking an unwanted photograph is
 told about the policy. Afterwards, the case(s) will be handled as
 determined by x. There should also be a part that says If the
 lanyard/badge/whatnot is not clearly visible, the picture taker should be
 informed of the issue and remove the image from the phone/camera. No one
 can control what happens to participants outside of the venue,
 unfortunately, but hopefully other Code4Libbers would still abide by the
 policy.
 This isn't meant to restrict your freedom or get people in trouble. It's
 to protect those who feel they need protection. I wouldn't use a
 lanyard/badge/whatnot personally (if voluntary - if you have to choose a
 color on registration, obviously I would), but I'm not going to make others
 feel as though they're in the wrong for choosing to do it.
 Did all of that make sense?
 Sarah

  Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:52:18 -0800
  From: kyle.baner...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
  To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 
  On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Galen Charlton g...@esilibrary.com
 wrote:
 
   I would like to propose that C4L adopt a policy requiring that consent
   be explicitly given to be photographed or recorded, along the lines of
   a policy adopted by the Evergreen Project. [1]
  
 
  As a practical matter, this is functionally equivalent to prohibiting
  photography except for arranged photos which will need something simple
  (like pictures of  cameras and mikes with slashes through them posted
  throughout the venue) to communicate the policy. Differential badges,
  lanyards, etc will not always be visible, and not all people will notice
  them, be aware of what they mean, or can be assumed to be familiar with a
  written policy. On an aside note, a lot of activity occurs outside the
  official venues and it is in these areas where people might be most
  vulnerable to unwanted photos.
 
  kyle




Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Galen Charlton g...@esilibrary.com wrote:

 I would like to propose that C4L adopt a policy requiring that consent
 be explicitly given to be photographed or recorded, along the lines of
 a policy adopted by the Evergreen Project. [1]


As a practical matter, this is functionally equivalent to prohibiting
photography except for arranged photos which will need something simple
(like pictures of  cameras and mikes with slashes through them posted
throughout the venue) to communicate the policy. Differential badges,
lanyards, etc will not always be visible, and not all people will notice
them, be aware of what they mean, or can be assumed to be familiar with a
written policy. On an aside note, a lot of activity occurs outside the
official venues and it is in these areas where people might be most
vulnerable to unwanted photos.

kyle


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Sarah Shealy
I see your point, nothing is 100% effective. Especially anywhere more than 4 or 
5 people gather. I would think the first year of implementation would be more 
of a 'let everyone know' type deal. And the MC can also point out any changes 
in policy (not just this one) during breaks.
However, with the lanyards/whatnot, the instances of unwanted photographs 
should go down. If you don't wear a badge/lanyard/etc you won't really have to 
worry about it. I'd suggest we have an addition to the policy that basically 
reads We understand that many people will not know about this policy, and on a 
first incident someone taking an unwanted photograph is told about the policy. 
Afterwards, the case(s) will be handled as determined by x. There should also 
be a part that says If the lanyard/badge/whatnot is not clearly visible, the 
picture taker should be informed of the issue and remove the image from the 
phone/camera. No one can control what happens to participants outside of the 
venue, unfortunately, but hopefully other Code4Libbers would still abide by the 
policy.
This isn't meant to restrict your freedom or get people in trouble. It's to 
protect those who feel they need protection. I wouldn't use a 
lanyard/badge/whatnot personally (if voluntary - if you have to choose a color 
on registration, obviously I would), but I'm not going to make others feel as 
though they're in the wrong for choosing to do it.
Did all of that make sense? 
Sarah
 
 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:52:18 -0800
 From: kyle.baner...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 
 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Galen Charlton g...@esilibrary.com wrote:
 
  I would like to propose that C4L adopt a policy requiring that consent
  be explicitly given to be photographed or recorded, along the lines of
  a policy adopted by the Evergreen Project. [1]
 
 
 As a practical matter, this is functionally equivalent to prohibiting
 photography except for arranged photos which will need something simple
 (like pictures of  cameras and mikes with slashes through them posted
 throughout the venue) to communicate the policy. Differential badges,
 lanyards, etc will not always be visible, and not all people will notice
 them, be aware of what they mean, or can be assumed to be familiar with a
 written policy. On an aside note, a lot of activity occurs outside the
 official venues and it is in these areas where people might be most
 vulnerable to unwanted photos.
 
 kyle
  

Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Salazar, Christina
In order to keep some presenters from being streamed and others not would 
require the presentation line up (including whether ALL of the presenters who 
are included on an individual presentation) to be made available to the filming 
crew in advance, for that line up not to change (for example, to run behind 
schedule), it would require quite a bit of babysitting of the piece of paper 
to make sure it was to hand at the time it's needed... I'm sure there's more 
that I don't know.

Because the broadcast is live, it's really NOT as simple as sticking up a piece 
of paper when someone comes on who doesn't want to be filmed because ONCE 
you've inadvertently filmed someone the cat is out of the bag - their image is 
out there for the world to see - it requires a bit of planning and thought (as 
I imagine) before the person is standing there getting filmed.

Cary and Riley (others) film C4L for fun and for free and may () want to 
actually do stuff other than juggling pieces of paper (like take a restroom 
break, perhaps?).

I believe Cary's and Riley's assessment that this is burdensome cos I can just 
imagine how this would be if *I* had to do it. Both have way more experience 
with this than me (er... I have none), but still, as I understand it, this is 
more than they feel comfortable taking on.

(Haven't you watched them - they actually DO bring some production values to 
this, too.)

Christina Salazar
Systems Librarian
John Spoor Broome Library
California State University, Channel Islands
805/437-3198


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Sarah 
Shealy
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:07 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

What more would be required than just putting a sheet of paper in front of the 
lens while filming? Honestly curious.
Sarah

 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:00:05 -0800
 From: listu...@chillco.com
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 
 I think that requiring explicit permission from presenters is overly 
 burdensome for the crew that is struggling to get the recordings up. I think 
 that speakers and presenters should be informed that all presentations may be 
 recorded and made available to the public unless they inform the conference 
 committee that they do not want to be recorded before their presentation 
 begins.
 
 If they object, the video crew will refrain from capturing their presentation.
 
 If we do screen capture again, it is possible that presenter could have the 
 option of allowing us to record their voice and screen. 
 
 Cary
 
  On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote:
  
  We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that 
  the plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time, 
  so that we can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be 
  broadcast. It would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent 
  to it; nor would we want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust 
  for an unexpected
  dissent that should/could have been expected.
  
  On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson 
  trobert...@langara.bc.ca
  wrote:
  
  I love this conversation.
  
  WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is 
  to stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters 
  sign a consent form agreeing to this.
  
  Tara
  
  
  
  On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
  
  Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.
  
  Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state 
  that presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.
  
  On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:
  
  On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
  
   Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate 
  requests
  
  from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis 
  conference webcast?
  
  A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone 
  turned
  off
  the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.
  
  Bill
  --
  William Denton ↔  Toronto, Canada ↔  https://www.miskatonic.org/
  
  
  
  --
  
  Tara Robertson
  
  Accessibility Librarian, CAPER-BC http://caperbc.ca/ T  
  604.323.5254 F  604.323.5954 trobert...@langara.bc.ca 
  mailto:Tara%20Robertson%20% 3ctrobert...@langara.bc.ca%3E
  
  Langara. http://www.langara.bc.ca
  
  100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 2Z6
  
  


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Riley Childs
I will not be there this year (coincided with a scholarship opportunity) , but 
I think the best option may be to establish a time frame where the conf will 
not be streamed (eg day 2 afternoon) that way we can say this group of 
presenters will not be filmed.
//Riley

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From: Salazar, Christinamailto:christina.sala...@csuci.edu
Sent: ‎1/‎26/‎2015 4:44 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDUmailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

In order to keep some presenters from being streamed and others not would 
require the presentation line up (including whether ALL of the presenters who 
are included on an individual presentation) to be made available to the filming 
crew in advance, for that line up not to change (for example, to run behind 
schedule), it would require quite a bit of babysitting of the piece of paper 
to make sure it was to hand at the time it's needed... I'm sure there's more 
that I don't know.

Because the broadcast is live, it's really NOT as simple as sticking up a piece 
of paper when someone comes on who doesn't want to be filmed because ONCE 
you've inadvertently filmed someone the cat is out of the bag - their image is 
out there for the world to see - it requires a bit of planning and thought (as 
I imagine) before the person is standing there getting filmed.

Cary and Riley (others) film C4L for fun and for free and may () want to 
actually do stuff other than juggling pieces of paper (like take a restroom 
break, perhaps?).

I believe Cary's and Riley's assessment that this is burdensome cos I can just 
imagine how this would be if *I* had to do it. Both have way more experience 
with this than me (er... I have none), but still, as I understand it, this is 
more than they feel comfortable taking on.

(Haven't you watched them - they actually DO bring some production values to 
this, too.)

Christina Salazar
Systems Librarian
John Spoor Broome Library
California State University, Channel Islands
805/437-3198


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Sarah 
Shealy
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:07 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

What more would be required than just putting a sheet of paper in front of the 
lens while filming? Honestly curious.
Sarah

 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:00:05 -0800
 From: listu...@chillco.com
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU

 I think that requiring explicit permission from presenters is overly 
 burdensome for the crew that is struggling to get the recordings up. I think 
 that speakers and presenters should be informed that all presentations may be 
 recorded and made available to the public unless they inform the conference 
 committee that they do not want to be recorded before their presentation 
 begins.

 If they object, the video crew will refrain from capturing their presentation.

 If we do screen capture again, it is possible that presenter could have the 
 option of allowing us to record their voice and screen.

 Cary

  On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 
  We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that
  the plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time,
  so that we can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be
  broadcast. It would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent
  to it; nor would we want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust 
  for an unexpected
  dissent that should/could have been expected.
 
  On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson
  trobert...@langara.bc.ca
  wrote:
 
  I love this conversation.
 
  WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is
  to stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters
  sign a consent form agreeing

Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Sarah Shealy
I never said I didn't believe them - I asked a question. I don't have any 
experience with this and was asking for more information. No need to go on the 
defensive. 
Also, Tara has agreed to take over that responsibility, so no is forcing 
Cary/Riley to do anything they're uncomfortable with.
Sarah

 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:43:45 +
 From: christina.sala...@csuci.edu
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 
 In order to keep some presenters from being streamed and others not would 
 require the presentation line up (including whether ALL of the presenters who 
 are included on an individual presentation) to be made available to the 
 filming crew in advance, for that line up not to change (for example, to run 
 behind schedule), it would require quite a bit of babysitting of the piece 
 of paper to make sure it was to hand at the time it's needed... I'm sure 
 there's more that I don't know.
 
 Because the broadcast is live, it's really NOT as simple as sticking up a 
 piece of paper when someone comes on who doesn't want to be filmed because 
 ONCE you've inadvertently filmed someone the cat is out of the bag - their 
 image is out there for the world to see - it requires a bit of planning and 
 thought (as I imagine) before the person is standing there getting filmed.
 
 Cary and Riley (others) film C4L for fun and for free and may () want to 
 actually do stuff other than juggling pieces of paper (like take a restroom 
 break, perhaps?).
 
 I believe Cary's and Riley's assessment that this is burdensome cos I can 
 just imagine how this would be if *I* had to do it. Both have way more 
 experience with this than me (er... I have none), but still, as I understand 
 it, this is more than they feel comfortable taking on.
 
 (Haven't you watched them - they actually DO bring some production values to 
 this, too.)
 
 Christina Salazar
 Systems Librarian
 John Spoor Broome Library
 California State University, Channel Islands
 805/437-3198
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Sarah 
 Shealy
 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:07 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
 
 What more would be required than just putting a sheet of paper in front of 
 the lens while filming? Honestly curious.
 Sarah
 
  Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:00:05 -0800
  From: listu...@chillco.com
  Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
  To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
  
  I think that requiring explicit permission from presenters is overly 
  burdensome for the crew that is struggling to get the recordings up. I 
  think that speakers and presenters should be informed that all 
  presentations may be recorded and made available to the public unless they 
  inform the conference committee that they do not want to be recorded before 
  their presentation begins.
  
  If they object, the video crew will refrain from capturing their 
  presentation.
  
  If we do screen capture again, it is possible that presenter could have the 
  option of allowing us to record their voice and screen. 
  
  Cary
  
   On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu 
   wrote:
   
   We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that 
   the plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time, 
   so that we can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be 
   broadcast. It would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent 
   to it; nor would we want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust 
   for an unexpected
   dissent that should/could have been expected.
   
   On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson 
   trobert...@langara.bc.ca
   wrote:
   
   I love this conversation.
   
   WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is 
   to stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters 
   sign a consent form agreeing to this.
   
   Tara
   
   
   
   On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
   
   Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.
   
   Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state 
   that presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.
   
   On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:
   
   On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
   
Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate 
   requests
   
   from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis 
   conference webcast?
   
   A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone 
   turned
   off
   the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.
   
   Bill
   --
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Tara Robertson
If it's too burdensome for the livestream crew, I'd be happy to 
volunteer to work with the program committee and streaming committee to 
make it happen.


I'd be willing to adapt the plain English consent sheet we used for 
Access and the International Evergreen conference. I think it's 
important for communication to be clear about where the video will be 
streamed and archived. As a presenter I'm definately more mindful about 
what I'm saying if I know it's going to be published to the web.


I think informed consent is important.

Tara

On 26/01/2015 12:00 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:

I think that requiring explicit permission from presenters is overly burdensome 
for the crew that is struggling to get the recordings up. I think that speakers 
and presenters should be informed that all presentations may be recorded and 
made available to the public unless they inform the conference committee that 
they do not want to be recorded before their presentation begins.

If they object, the video crew will refrain from capturing their presentation.

If we do screen capture again, it is possible that presenter could have the 
option of allowing us to record their voice and screen.

Cary


On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote:

We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that the
plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time, so that we
can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be broadcast. It
would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent to it; nor would we
want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust for an unexpected
dissent that should/could have been expected.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson trobert...@langara.bc.ca
wrote:


I love this conversation.

WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is to
stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters sign a
consent form agreeing to this.

Tara



On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:


Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.

Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state that
presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:

On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

  Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate
requests


from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis
conference
webcast?

A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone turned

off
the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.

Bill
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4LibCon video (Was: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy)

2015-01-26 Thread Riley Childs
A streaming rotation might be an idea, it would be nice to have a morning 
crew/afternoon crew.

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From: Code for Libraries CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU on behalf of Cary Gordon 
listu...@chillco.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 7:38 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4LibCon video (Was: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference 
photography policy)

Correction: We need a Mac, as my encoder is Thunderbolt.

I will try to rebuild my MacBook Pro, if I gat a chance.


 On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:

 Just to be clear, I am providing equipment and will set it up, but I do not 
 believe that we have a streaming crew at this time.

 Riley and I spent almost every moment of the last Con doing this, so while I 
 am willing to teach and help, I am not going to be the video guy again.

 We also need a decent computer. I am most familiar with Macs, but a PC will 
 do. Linux is not an option.

 Thanks,

 Cary

 On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:26 PM, Ranti Junus ranti.ju...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ranti.ju...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree that streaming crew should be free from doing the paperwork. Tara
 has volunteered to be the paperwork person and I'm volunteering to help
 her out.

 I think streaming crew, Tara, and I can discuss separately on things that
 are need to be done or information we should provide (e.g. list of those
 who opt-out, their talk schedule, etc.) to the streaming crew.


 thanks,
 ranti.

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com 
 mailto:listu...@chillco.com wrote:

 To be clear, what I said or tried to say is that the streaming crew needs
 to know if he presenter does not wish to be shown, or if they do not want
 their presentation shown before they start presenting. At least one full
 minute before would be great. They can take our word that we will honor
 their wishes.

 I think that it is fair to say that nobody involved with the video wants
 anything to do with paperwork, and if anyone has the time and energy to do
 that, their time would be better spent actually working on the video crew,
 which at this point is virtually nonexistent.

 Every presenter should know that we will be putting up video of their
 session or talk on our YouTube channel with a CC license, unless they
 demure. We should have a small sign to that effect at the podium, as well.


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Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Tom Johnson
Thank you, Tara and Ranti for taking this on.  I'm sure even many speakers
who have no problem being filmed will appreciate being notified and given
the opportunity to opt in/out.

- Tom

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Ranti Junus ranti.ju...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree that streaming crew should be free from doing the paperwork. Tara
 has volunteered to be the paperwork person and I'm volunteering to help
 her out.

 I think streaming crew, Tara, and I can discuss separately on things that
 are need to be done or information we should provide (e.g. list of those
 who opt-out, their talk schedule, etc.) to the streaming crew.


 thanks,
 ranti.

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:

  To be clear, what I said or tried to say is that the streaming crew needs
  to know if he presenter does not wish to be shown, or if they do not want
  their presentation shown before they start presenting. At least one full
  minute before would be great. They can take our word that we will honor
  their wishes.
 
  I think that it is fair to say that nobody involved with the video wants
  anything to do with paperwork, and if anyone has the time and energy to
 do
  that, their time would be better spent actually working on the video
 crew,
  which at this point is virtually nonexistent.
 
  Every presenter should know that we will be putting up video of their
  session or talk on our YouTube channel with a CC license, unless they
  demure. We should have a small sign to that effect at the podium, as
 well.
 
 
  --
  Cary Gordon
  The Cherry Hill Company
  http://chillco.com
 



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Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4LibCon video (Was: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy)

2015-01-26 Thread Tom Johnson
I can supply a Macbook.

Thanks Cary, for your offer to bring equipment.  My hope is that someone
will step forward to coordinate the stream; it should be something that we
can bring volunteers on board for if we can arrange for a
morning/handoff/afternoon cycle, rather than a multi-day commitment.

- Tom

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:

 Correction: We need a Mac, as my encoder is Thunderbolt.

 I will try to rebuild my MacBook Pro, if I gat a chance.


  On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:
 
  Just to be clear, I am providing equipment and will set it up, but I do
 not believe that we have a streaming crew at this time.
 
  Riley and I spent almost every moment of the last Con doing this, so
 while I am willing to teach and help, I am not going to be the video guy
 again.
 
  We also need a decent computer. I am most familiar with Macs, but a PC
 will do. Linux is not an option.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Cary
 
  On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:26 PM, Ranti Junus ranti.ju...@gmail.com
 mailto:ranti.ju...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I agree that streaming crew should be free from doing the paperwork.
 Tara
  has volunteered to be the paperwork person and I'm volunteering to
 help
  her out.
 
  I think streaming crew, Tara, and I can discuss separately on things
 that
  are need to be done or information we should provide (e.g. list of those
  who opt-out, their talk schedule, etc.) to the streaming crew.
 
 
  thanks,
  ranti.
 
  On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com
 mailto:listu...@chillco.com wrote:
 
  To be clear, what I said or tried to say is that the streaming crew
 needs
  to know if he presenter does not wish to be shown, or if they do not
 want
  their presentation shown before they start presenting. At least one
 full
  minute before would be great. They can take our word that we will honor
  their wishes.
 
  I think that it is fair to say that nobody involved with the video
 wants
  anything to do with paperwork, and if anyone has the time and energy
 to do
  that, their time would be better spent actually working on the video
 crew,
  which at this point is virtually nonexistent.
 
  Every presenter should know that we will be putting up video of their
  session or talk on our YouTube channel with a CC license, unless they
  demure. We should have a small sign to that effect at the podium, as
 well.
 
 
  --
  Cary Gordon
  The Cherry Hill Company
  http://chillco.com http://chillco.com/
 
 
 
 
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  Bulk mail.  Postage paid.
 



Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Riley Childs
I think it is pretty straightforward.
[] I am ok with my image, audio, and presentation being broadcast and archived 
(default)
[] I am not ok with my image being brodcasted, but will allow audio and slides
[] none of the above


This needs to be opt out, not opt in.
We are beating a dead horse at this point and complicating matters.

//Riley

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From: Tara Robertsonmailto:trobert...@langara.bc.ca
Sent: ‎1/‎26/‎2015 9:34 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDUmailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

I don't imagine that many, if any, people will opt out. But I think the
process is important: How do you say yes when you don't know what you're
agreeing to? And how do you know if you have the option to opt out,
unless asked?

Thanks everyone,
Tara

On 2015-01-26, 5:17 PM, Tom Johnson wrote:
 Thank you, Tara and Ranti for taking this on.  I'm sure even many speakers
 who have no problem being filmed will appreciate being notified and given
 the opportunity to opt in/out.

 - Tom

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Ranti Junus ranti.ju...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree that streaming crew should be free from doing the paperwork. Tara
 has volunteered to be the paperwork person and I'm volunteering to help
 her out.

 I think streaming crew, Tara, and I can discuss separately on things that
 are need to be done or information we should provide (e.g. list of those
 who opt-out, their talk schedule, etc.) to the streaming crew.


 thanks,
 ranti.

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:

 To be clear, what I said or tried to say is that the streaming crew needs
 to know if he presenter does not wish to be shown, or if they do not want
 their presentation shown before they start presenting. At least one full
 minute before would be great. They can take our word that we will honor
 their wishes.

 I think that it is fair to say that nobody involved with the video wants
 anything to do with paperwork, and if anyone has the time and energy to
 do
 that, their time would be better spent actually working on the video
 crew,
 which at this point is virtually nonexistent.

 Every presenter should know that we will be putting up video of their
 session or talk on our YouTube channel with a CC license, unless they
 demure. We should have a small sign to that effect at the podium, as
 well.

 --
 Cary Gordon
 The Cherry Hill Company
 http://chillco.com



 --
 Bulk mail.  Postage paid.



Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Tara Robertson
I don't imagine that many, if any, people will opt out. But I think the 
process is important: How do you say yes when you don't know what you're 
agreeing to? And how do you know if you have the option to opt out, 
unless asked?


Thanks everyone,
Tara

On 2015-01-26, 5:17 PM, Tom Johnson wrote:

Thank you, Tara and Ranti for taking this on.  I'm sure even many speakers
who have no problem being filmed will appreciate being notified and given
the opportunity to opt in/out.

- Tom

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Ranti Junus ranti.ju...@gmail.com wrote:


I agree that streaming crew should be free from doing the paperwork. Tara
has volunteered to be the paperwork person and I'm volunteering to help
her out.

I think streaming crew, Tara, and I can discuss separately on things that
are need to be done or information we should provide (e.g. list of those
who opt-out, their talk schedule, etc.) to the streaming crew.


thanks,
ranti.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:


To be clear, what I said or tried to say is that the streaming crew needs
to know if he presenter does not wish to be shown, or if they do not want
their presentation shown before they start presenting. At least one full
minute before would be great. They can take our word that we will honor
their wishes.

I think that it is fair to say that nobody involved with the video wants
anything to do with paperwork, and if anyone has the time and energy to

do

that, their time would be better spent actually working on the video

crew,

which at this point is virtually nonexistent.

Every presenter should know that we will be putting up video of their
session or talk on our YouTube channel with a CC license, unless they
demure. We should have a small sign to that effect at the podium, as

well.


--
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com




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Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Cary Gordon
To be clear, what I said or tried to say is that the streaming crew needs
to know if he presenter does not wish to be shown, or if they do not want
their presentation shown before they start presenting. At least one full
minute before would be great. They can take our word that we will honor
their wishes.

I think that it is fair to say that nobody involved with the video wants
anything to do with paperwork, and if anyone has the time and energy to do
that, their time would be better spent actually working on the video crew,
which at this point is virtually nonexistent.

Every presenter should know that we will be putting up video of their
session or talk on our YouTube channel with a CC license, unless they
demure. We should have a small sign to that effect at the podium, as well.

On Monday, January 26, 2015, Schwartz, Raymond schwart...@wpunj.edu wrote:

 I would agree with Cary. An Opt-Out policy would be more workable for
 presenters. As you all know, I have been taking many photos over the years
 at this conference (see the 6 albums from 2008 to 2013 at
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzray/collections/72157604027074852/https://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzray/collections/72157604027074852/).
 Though I still take candid photos, (BTW Andromeda has ask to use this one
 for her keynote
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzray/4393750460/in/set-72157623395853351https://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzray/4393750460/in/set-72157623395853351),
 generally these days I take candids of people I am somewhat 'acquainted'
 with.  Only on two occasions I do recall that the person photographed later
 asked to delete/or not take the pic-which of course I did.

 For photographers, color coded lanyards would be easier to spot.  And if
 any were accidentally caught in a frame, it could be deleted or the portion
 blacked out.

 /Ray



 
 From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU javascript:;] on
 behalf of Cary Gordon [listu...@chillco.com javascript:;]
 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 3:00 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU javascript:;
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

 I think that requiring explicit permission from presenters is overly
 burdensome for the crew that is struggling to get the recordings up. I
 think that speakers and presenters should be informed that all
 presentations may be recorded and made available to the public unless they
 inform the conference committee that they do not want to be recorded before
 their presentation begins.

 If they object, the video crew will refrain from capturing their
 presentation.

 If we do screen capture again, it is possible that presenter could have
 the option of allowing us to record their voice and screen.

 Cary

  On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu
 javascript:; wrote:
 
  We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that the
  plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time, so that
 we
  can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be broadcast. It
  would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent to it; nor would
 we
  want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust for an unexpected
  dissent that should/could have been expected.
 
  On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson 
 trobert...@langara.bc.ca javascript:;
  wrote:
 
  I love this conversation.
 
  WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is to
  stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters sign a
  consent form agreeing to this.
 
  Tara
 
 
 
  On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
 
  Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.
 
  Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state that
  presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.
 
  On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com
 javascript:; wrote:
 
  On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
 
  Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate
  requests
 
  from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis
  conference
  webcast?
 
  A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone
 turned
  off
  the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.
 
  Bill
  --
  William Denton ↔ Toronto, Canada ↔ https://www.miskatonic.org/
 
 
 
  --
 
  Tara Robertson
 
  Accessibility Librarian, CAPER-BC http://caperbc.ca/
  T 604.323.5254
  F 604.323.5954
  trobert...@langara.bc.ca javascript:; mailto:Tara%20Robertson%20%
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Ranti Junus
I agree that streaming crew should be free from doing the paperwork. Tara
has volunteered to be the paperwork person and I'm volunteering to help
her out.

I think streaming crew, Tara, and I can discuss separately on things that
are need to be done or information we should provide (e.g. list of those
who opt-out, their talk schedule, etc.) to the streaming crew.


thanks,
ranti.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:

 To be clear, what I said or tried to say is that the streaming crew needs
 to know if he presenter does not wish to be shown, or if they do not want
 their presentation shown before they start presenting. At least one full
 minute before would be great. They can take our word that we will honor
 their wishes.

 I think that it is fair to say that nobody involved with the video wants
 anything to do with paperwork, and if anyone has the time and energy to do
 that, their time would be better spent actually working on the video crew,
 which at this point is virtually nonexistent.

 Every presenter should know that we will be putting up video of their
 session or talk on our YouTube channel with a CC license, unless they
 demure. We should have a small sign to that effect at the podium, as well.


 --
 Cary Gordon
 The Cherry Hill Company
 http://chillco.com




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[CODE4LIB] Code4LibCon video (Was: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy)

2015-01-26 Thread Cary Gordon
Just to be clear, I am providing equipment and will set it up, but I do not 
believe that we have a streaming crew at this time.

Riley and I spent almost every moment of the last Con doing this, so while I am 
willing to teach and help, I am not going to be the video guy again.

We also need a decent computer. I am most familiar with Macs, but a PC will do. 
Linux is not an option.

Thanks,

Cary

 On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:26 PM, Ranti Junus ranti.ju...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree that streaming crew should be free from doing the paperwork. Tara
 has volunteered to be the paperwork person and I'm volunteering to help
 her out.
 
 I think streaming crew, Tara, and I can discuss separately on things that
 are need to be done or information we should provide (e.g. list of those
 who opt-out, their talk schedule, etc.) to the streaming crew.
 
 
 thanks,
 ranti.
 
 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com 
 mailto:listu...@chillco.com wrote:
 
 To be clear, what I said or tried to say is that the streaming crew needs
 to know if he presenter does not wish to be shown, or if they do not want
 their presentation shown before they start presenting. At least one full
 minute before would be great. They can take our word that we will honor
 their wishes.
 
 I think that it is fair to say that nobody involved with the video wants
 anything to do with paperwork, and if anyone has the time and energy to do
 that, their time would be better spent actually working on the video crew,
 which at this point is virtually nonexistent.
 
 Every presenter should know that we will be putting up video of their
 session or talk on our YouTube channel with a CC license, unless they
 demure. We should have a small sign to that effect at the podium, as well.
 
 
 --
 Cary Gordon
 The Cherry Hill Company
 http://chillco.com
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Bulk mail.  Postage paid.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Schwartz, Raymond
I would agree with Cary. An Opt-Out policy would be more workable for 
presenters. As you all know, I have been taking many photos over the years at 
this conference (see the 6 albums from 2008 to 2013 at 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzray/collections/72157604027074852/https://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzray/collections/72157604027074852/).
  Though I still take candid photos, (BTW Andromeda has ask to use this one for 
her keynote 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzray/4393750460/in/set-72157623395853351https://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzray/4393750460/in/set-72157623395853351),
 generally these days I take candids of people I am somewhat 'acquainted' with. 
 Only on two occasions I do recall that the person photographed later asked to 
delete/or not take the pic-which of course I did.

For photographers, color coded lanyards would be easier to spot.  And if any 
were accidentally caught in a frame, it could be deleted or the portion blacked 
out.

/Ray




From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Cary Gordon 
[listu...@chillco.com]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 3:00 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

I think that requiring explicit permission from presenters is overly burdensome 
for the crew that is struggling to get the recordings up. I think that speakers 
and presenters should be informed that all presentations may be recorded and 
made available to the public unless they inform the conference committee that 
they do not want to be recorded before their presentation begins.

If they object, the video crew will refrain from capturing their presentation.

If we do screen capture again, it is possible that presenter could have the 
option of allowing us to record their voice and screen.

Cary

 On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote:

 We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that the
 plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time, so that we
 can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be broadcast. It
 would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent to it; nor would we
 want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust for an unexpected
 dissent that should/could have been expected.

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson trobert...@langara.bc.ca
 wrote:

 I love this conversation.

 WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is to
 stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters sign a
 consent form agreeing to this.

 Tara



 On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

 Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.

 Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state that
 presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

 Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate
 requests

 from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis
 conference
 webcast?

 A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone turned
 off
 the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.

 Bill
 --
 William Denton ↔ Toronto, Canada ↔ https://www.miskatonic.org/



 --

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 Accessibility Librarian, CAPER-BC http://caperbc.ca/
 T 604.323.5254
 F 604.323.5954
 trobert...@langara.bc.ca mailto:Tara%20Robertson%20%
 3ctrobert...@langara.bc.ca%3E

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Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Tara Robertson

Hi Cary,

I appreciate the work you do to make the streaming happen.

I'm trying to better understand the burden--what would you need to make 
this work for you? If you were given the schedule with the names of 
people who did *not* consent to be streamed highlighted would that work?


Cheers,
Tara

On 26/01/2015 12:00 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:

I think that requiring explicit permission from presenters is overly burdensome 
for the crew that is struggling to get the recordings up. I think that speakers 
and presenters should be informed that all presentations may be recorded and 
made available to the public unless they inform the conference committee that 
they do not want to be recorded before their presentation begins.

If they object, the video crew will refrain from capturing their presentation.

If we do screen capture again, it is possible that presenter could have the 
option of allowing us to record their voice and screen.

Cary


On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote:

We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that the
plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time, so that we
can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be broadcast. It
would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent to it; nor would we
want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust for an unexpected
dissent that should/could have been expected.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson trobert...@langara.bc.ca
wrote:


I love this conversation.

WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is to
stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters sign a
consent form agreeing to this.

Tara



On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:


Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.

Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state that
presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:

On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

  Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate
requests


from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis
conference
webcast?

A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone turned

off
the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.

Bill
--
William Denton ↔  Toronto, Canada ↔  https://www.miskatonic.org/


--

Tara Robertson

Accessibility Librarian, CAPER-BC http://caperbc.ca/
T  604.323.5254
F  604.323.5954
trobert...@langara.bc.ca mailto:Tara%20Robertson%20%
3ctrobert...@langara.bc.ca%3E

Langara. http://www.langara.bc.ca

100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 2Z6




--

Tara Robertson

Accessibility Librarian, CAPER-BC http://caperbc.ca/
T  604.323.5254
F  604.323.5954
trobert...@langara.bc.ca 
mailto:tara%20robertson%20%3ctrobert...@langara.bc.ca%3E


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Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Francis Kayiwa
On 1/26/15 4:43 PM, Salazar, Christina wrote:
 In order to keep some presenters from being streamed and others not would 
 require the presentation line up (including whether ALL of the presenters who 
 are included on an individual presentation) to be made available to the 
 filming crew in advance, for that line up not to change (for example, to run 
 behind schedule), it would require quite a bit of babysitting of the piece 
 of paper to make sure it was to hand at the time it's needed... I'm sure 
 there's more that I don't know.
 
 Because the broadcast is live, it's really NOT as simple as sticking up a 
 piece of paper when someone comes on who doesn't want to be filmed because 
 ONCE you've inadvertently filmed someone the cat is out of the bag - their 
 image is out there for the world to see - it requires a bit of planning and 
 thought (as I imagine) before the person is standing there getting filmed.
 
 Cary and Riley (others) film C4L for fun and for free and may () want to 
 actually do stuff other than juggling pieces of paper (like take a restroom 
 break, perhaps?).
 
 I believe Cary's and Riley's assessment that this is burdensome cos I can 
 just imagine how this would be if *I* had to do it. Both have way more 
 experience with this than me (er... I have none), but still, as I understand 
 it, this is more than they feel comfortable taking on.
 
 (Haven't you watched them - they actually DO bring some production values to 
 this, too.)


Hey Christina.

FWIW I did the recording in 2013. Yeah it is a slog that I swore away
from. So in that regard you are absolutely correct. That said, with a
minimal planning sticking a paper ought to do the job. Unless I'm
missing the bleeding obvious.

Perhaps not for Lightning Talks but for prepared talks almost certainly.

Let's say our Tuesday line up is

Moe, Larry and Curly.

Larry has no interest in being photographed. Unlike Lightning talks
which have everyone standing right in front of the stage or dais you can
(working with Larry tell him to avoid the front of the room) Tara has
volunteered to do this type thing. As soon as Moe is done we go dark.
Until Larry has completely gone of stage... or a close approximation of
that.

Yes it is work. Tara's volunteered to do this I think she should be
taken up on it. (Hi Tara)

./fxk

-- 
Mediocrity finds safety in standardization.
-- Frederick Crane


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4LibCon video (Was: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy)

2015-01-26 Thread Cary Gordon
Correction: We need a Mac, as my encoder is Thunderbolt.

I will try to rebuild my MacBook Pro, if I gat a chance.


 On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:
 
 Just to be clear, I am providing equipment and will set it up, but I do not 
 believe that we have a streaming crew at this time.
 
 Riley and I spent almost every moment of the last Con doing this, so while I 
 am willing to teach and help, I am not going to be the video guy again.
 
 We also need a decent computer. I am most familiar with Macs, but a PC will 
 do. Linux is not an option.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cary
 
 On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:26 PM, Ranti Junus ranti.ju...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ranti.ju...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree that streaming crew should be free from doing the paperwork. Tara
 has volunteered to be the paperwork person and I'm volunteering to help
 her out.
 
 I think streaming crew, Tara, and I can discuss separately on things that
 are need to be done or information we should provide (e.g. list of those
 who opt-out, their talk schedule, etc.) to the streaming crew.
 
 
 thanks,
 ranti.
 
 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com 
 mailto:listu...@chillco.com wrote:
 
 To be clear, what I said or tried to say is that the streaming crew needs
 to know if he presenter does not wish to be shown, or if they do not want
 their presentation shown before they start presenting. At least one full
 minute before would be great. They can take our word that we will honor
 their wishes.
 
 I think that it is fair to say that nobody involved with the video wants
 anything to do with paperwork, and if anyone has the time and energy to do
 that, their time would be better spent actually working on the video crew,
 which at this point is virtually nonexistent.
 
 Every presenter should know that we will be putting up video of their
 session or talk on our YouTube channel with a CC license, unless they
 demure. We should have a small sign to that effect at the podium, as well.
 
 
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

2015-01-26 Thread Riley Childs
I agree, it would be difficult to make some presentations anonymous and 
others not, it is really an on or off deal.
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From: Tara Robertsonmailto:trobert...@langara.bc.ca
Sent: ‎1/‎26/‎2015 3:35 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDUmailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy

If it's too burdensome for the livestream crew, I'd be happy to
volunteer to work with the program committee and streaming committee to
make it happen.

I'd be willing to adapt the plain English consent sheet we used for
Access and the International Evergreen conference. I think it's
important for communication to be clear about where the video will be
streamed and archived. As a presenter I'm definately more mindful about
what I'm saying if I know it's going to be published to the web.

I think informed consent is important.

Tara

On 26/01/2015 12:00 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
 I think that requiring explicit permission from presenters is overly 
 burdensome for the crew that is struggling to get the recordings up. I think 
 that speakers and presenters should be informed that all presentations may be 
 recorded and made available to the public unless they inform the conference 
 committee that they do not want to be recorded before their presentation 
 begins.

 If they object, the video crew will refrain from capturing their presentation.

 If we do screen capture again, it is possible that presenter could have the 
 option of allowing us to record their voice and screen.

 Cary

 On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote:

 We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that the
 plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time, so that we
 can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be broadcast. It
 would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent to it; nor would we
 want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust for an unexpected
 dissent that should/could have been expected.

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson trobert...@langara.bc.ca
 wrote:

 I love this conversation.

 WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is to
 stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters sign a
 consent form agreeing to this.

 Tara



 On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

 Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.

 Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state that
 presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
   Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate
 requests

 from presenters who might have a no photo preference vis-a-vis
 conference
 webcast?

 A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone turned
 off
 the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.

 Bill
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