[CODE4LIB] Easy Borrow or another way to automate search/request across multiple catalogs?

2014-12-15 Thread Darylyne Provost
I'm new to Code4Lib, so just want to say hi first of all :)

I've searched the archives but didn't find an answer. I am wondering if
anyone has experience with Easy Borrow
http://library.brown.edu/its/software/easyborrow/, or can anyone suggest
other potential solutions to automate searching and requesting across
multiple catalogs?

I'm sure many other libraries have similar issues: our patrons have so many
disparate catalogs to search/request it is confusing and cumbersome. I'm
not a programmer, and we don't have one on staff at this time. So, I am
trying to find an existing solution for which we might be able to outsource
customization and then turn to internal (campus) support for help with
maintenance.

Many thanks in advance for any suggestions!

Darylyne

**
Darylyne Provost
Assistant Director for Systems, Web,  Emerging Technologies
Colby College
207.859.5117
dprov...@colby.edu


Re: [CODE4LIB] Easy Borrow or another way to automate search/request across multiple catalogs?

2014-12-15 Thread Kyle Banerjee
The answer depends on your objective. The quick answer to your question is
that union catalogs are easier to maintain and generally work better than
federated searches.

Can you say a bit more about what catalogs need to be searched and what
needs to happen? For example, do the catalogs in question belong to a
consortium and is the mechanism used to get patrons books from libraries
other than their home libraries more circ or ILL based? What kinds of
systems are involved and how have you been dealing with the need you're
hoping to meet so far? Thanks,

kyle


On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Darylyne Provost dprov...@colby.edu
wrote:

 I'm new to Code4Lib, so just want to say hi first of all :)

 I've searched the archives but didn't find an answer. I am wondering if
 anyone has experience with Easy Borrow
 http://library.brown.edu/its/software/easyborrow/, or can anyone suggest
 other potential solutions to automate searching and requesting across
 multiple catalogs?

 I'm sure many other libraries have similar issues: our patrons have so many
 disparate catalogs to search/request it is confusing and cumbersome. I'm
 not a programmer, and we don't have one on staff at this time. So, I am
 trying to find an existing solution for which we might be able to outsource
 customization and then turn to internal (campus) support for help with
 maintenance.

 Many thanks in advance for any suggestions!

 Darylyne

 **
 Darylyne Provost
 Assistant Director for Systems, Web,  Emerging Technologies
 Colby College
 207.859.5117
 dprov...@colby.edu



Re: [CODE4LIB] Easy Borrow or another way to automate search/request across multiple catalogs?

2014-12-15 Thread Darylyne Provost
Hi Kyle,

Thanks so much for your reply. Our patrons currently must choose from our
combined ILS CBBCat (III's Sierra), which we share with two other colleges;
three consortial systems, NExpress, MaineInfoNet, and as of tomorrow,
ConnectNY (all III's INNreach); and then, if they have searched all of
those systems and not been able to locate/request their item, interlibrary
loan (WorldCat/Illiad).

I'm probably not articulating it well, but I am trying to find a solution
similar to what I understand Easy Borrow to be - a program that automates
searching across those disparate systems, presenting a request option to
the patron at the point which the item is found.

I hope this clarifies it a bit. I know that this is a point of frustration
for patrons, so am hoping to find a solution to streamline the process. I'm
sure it is much more complex that I even imagine :)

Thanks,

Darylyne

**
Darylyne Provost
Assistant Director for Systems, Web,  Emerging Technologies
Colby College
207.859.5117
dprov...@colby.edu

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The answer depends on your objective. The quick answer to your question is
 that union catalogs are easier to maintain and generally work better than
 federated searches.

 Can you say a bit more about what catalogs need to be searched and what
 needs to happen? For example, do the catalogs in question belong to a
 consortium and is the mechanism used to get patrons books from libraries
 other than their home libraries more circ or ILL based? What kinds of
 systems are involved and how have you been dealing with the need you're
 hoping to meet so far? Thanks,

 kyle


 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Darylyne Provost dprov...@colby.edu
 wrote:

  I'm new to Code4Lib, so just want to say hi first of all :)
 
  I've searched the archives but didn't find an answer. I am wondering if
  anyone has experience with Easy Borrow
  http://library.brown.edu/its/software/easyborrow/, or can anyone
 suggest
  other potential solutions to automate searching and requesting across
  multiple catalogs?
 
  I'm sure many other libraries have similar issues: our patrons have so
 many
  disparate catalogs to search/request it is confusing and cumbersome. I'm
  not a programmer, and we don't have one on staff at this time. So, I am
  trying to find an existing solution for which we might be able to
 outsource
  customization and then turn to internal (campus) support for help with
  maintenance.
 
  Many thanks in advance for any suggestions!
 
  Darylyne
 
  **
  Darylyne Provost
  Assistant Director for Systems, Web,  Emerging Technologies
  Colby College
  207.859.5117
  dprov...@colby.edu
 



Re: [CODE4LIB] Easy Borrow or another way to automate search/request across multiple catalogs?

2014-12-15 Thread Rainwater, Jean
Hi Darylyne,

This easyBorrow system was developed at Brown to mask the complexities of
our consortial and shared resource arrangements and to forestall users
going directly to the slowest and most expensive service.  It has been very
successful locally and there has been some interest in it especially from
other members of one of the consortia we belong to (BorrowDirect).  There's
contact information on the page you cite if you want more information.

Jean

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Darylyne Provost dprov...@colby.edu
wrote:

 I'm new to Code4Lib, so just want to say hi first of all :)

 I've searched the archives but didn't find an answer. I am wondering if
 anyone has experience with Easy Borrow
 http://library.brown.edu/its/software/easyborrow/, or can anyone suggest
 other potential solutions to automate searching and requesting across
 multiple catalogs?

 I'm sure many other libraries have similar issues: our patrons have so many
 disparate catalogs to search/request it is confusing and cumbersome. I'm
 not a programmer, and we don't have one on staff at this time. So, I am
 trying to find an existing solution for which we might be able to outsource
 customization and then turn to internal (campus) support for help with
 maintenance.

 Many thanks in advance for any suggestions!

 Darylyne

 **
 Darylyne Provost
 Assistant Director for Systems, Web,  Emerging Technologies
 Colby College
 207.859.5117
 dprov...@colby.edu



-- 
Jean Rainwater
Head, Integrated Technology Services
Brown University Library
10 Prospect Street / Box A
Providence, Rhode Island 02912
401.863.9031
jean_rainwa...@brown.edu


Re: [CODE4LIB] Easy Borrow or another way to automate search/request across multiple catalogs?

2014-12-15 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Darylyne Provost dprov...@colby.edu
wrote:

 Thanks so much for your reply. Our patrons currently must choose from our
 combined ILS CBBCat (III's Sierra), which we share with two other colleges;
 three consortial systems, NExpress, MaineInfoNet, and as of tomorrow,
 ConnectNY (all III's INNreach); and then, if they have searched all of
 those systems and not been able to locate/request their item, interlibrary
 loan (WorldCat/Illiad).


You have a number of options, one of which is super low tech and easy to
implement. That option is to create javascript buttons that say replicate
this search in  The javascript then scrapes the address bar to figure
out what kind of search they did and sends it with the correct syntax to
the other catalogs. Super lightweight, very easy to maintain and update,
and people get to search from their home system.

The second option is z39.50 -- assuming that the III libraries purchased
the z39.50 server product and the Koha system has a 39.50 server
configured. This has the advantage over the javascript method of searching
all the systems at the same time, but you have to interpret what comes back
and present it. Note that materials that appear available via z39.50 may
only be available to local patrons because there's no way to distinguish
borrowing privileges remotely.

If z39.50 is not an option, any federated search will be based on screen
scraping which I would not recommend.

The third major option are data dumps into a union catalog that people can
search. This will search nicely, but you have to develop a search interface
and getting real time availability is going to be problematic.

As far as requesting goes, how do patrons request stuff that's not at their
home system? Do they have accounts in the other systems (i.e. can they log
in like regular patrons) or is there a special request screen that
initiates an ILL process?

kyle


Re: [CODE4LIB] Easy Borrow or another way to automate search/request across multiple catalogs?

2014-12-15 Thread Brian Kennison

On Dec 15, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Darylyne Provost 
dprov...@colby.edumailto:dprov...@colby.edu wrote:

I'm sure many other libraries have similar issues: our patrons have so many
disparate catalogs to search/request it is confusing and cumbersome. I'm
not a programmer, and we don't have one on staff at this time. So, I am
trying to find an existing solution for which we might be able to outsource
customization and then turn to internal (campus) support for help with
maintenance.

Take a look at “MasterKey” from IndexData, it will do what you want (Borrow 
Direct is built by them)
http://www.indexdata.com/masterkey

—Brian