Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Cary Gordon]

I am sorry, I should not have said asserted, as I did, that "BISG sees
libraries as competition and will not do anything to help them". Its the
publishers who control BISG who would, in my opinion, not shed a tear were
the last public library to close its doors.

Your mileage may differ.

Cary

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Nettie Lagace  wrote:

> hi Christina,
>
> I am your friendly neighborhood standards person at NISO.  There are also
> several people who are active in NISO who are also active in Code4Lib, and
> we are always looking for more!  I read Code4Lib when I can and attend the
> conference when I can (sad to say that my proposals are never voted in… oh
> standards…)
>
> re RFID: most of the action is now going on at the international level
> within ISO and TC46 (the ISO committee that handles information and
> documentation). There is a working group within TC46, WG11, which handles
> ISO 28560, RFID in Libraries. Revisions and new proposals for extensions to
> the standard happen here.  The Danes are currently serving as the
> secretariat for this WG: http://biblstandard.dk/rfid/  NISO represents
> the US to TC46 (ANSI is actually the ISO member but appoints NISO for this
> particular role). Hence we appoint the US representatives to the WG and
> handle communication of the US voting position for any changes that need to
> be approved at the TC46 level.  I would be happy to coordinate any further
> questions you might have.
>
> I should also say that I disagree that BISG is anti-libraries, as another
> commenter opined. However, it’s true that libraries are not its primary
> constituency.  NISO is a strong industry partner with BISG on
> cross-industry standards and communication, and we work together on many
> initiatives to make sure that requirements and perspectives from each group
> re metadata, business practices, etc. are shared as much as possible.
>
> Cheers,
> Nettie
> --
> Nettie Lagace
> Associate Director for Programs
> National Information Standards Organization (NISO)
> 3600 Clipper Mill Road, Suite 302
> Baltimore, MD 21211
> Mobile: 617-863-0501
> Fax: 410-685-5278
> E-mail: nlag...@niso.org
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Salazar, Christina <
> christina.sala...@csuci.edu> wrote:
>
> > OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized c4l"
> AGAIN - we've been there done that, relatively recently too.
> >
> > I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in
> standards making bodies.
> >
> > And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in
> standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on
> the RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this
> conversation is happening with American standards making bodies?
> >
> > Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in
> standards making bodies?
> >
> > Christina
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Francis Kayiwa
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC –
> how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> >
> > On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
> >> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe
> >> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we
> have already.
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > ./fxk
> >
> >
> > --
> > You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.
>



-- 
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Genny Engel]

We use RFID, a lot.  It's been insanely fabulous for reducing repetitive stress 
among our staff.  We circulate about 3 million items a year, which translates 
into about 6 million times somebody needs to check something in or out.  We 
have patron self-checkout at some branches but by no means all.  As someone 
observed earlier, the situation in the circulating collections in a public 
library is rather different vs. a research collection in an academic library.  
For that matter, in our non-circulating collections I don't believe we've RFID 
tagged anything.

Genny Engel
Sonoma County Library
gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us
707 545-0831 x1581
www.sonomalibrary.org

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris 
Fitzpatrick
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 4:53 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how 
should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

So this thread started from talking about RFID ( "i'm interested!" ) to
talking about augmented reality ( "uh, ok, now less interested...") to
talking about standards ( "oh no, not again.." ) to talking about c4l (
"yep." )

So, are people using RFID? A lot? Is it working, or did it make life
hellish?

b,chris.



On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ross Singer  wrote:

> I guess there’s “what do you mean by ‘C4L'” and “what do you mean by
> ‘standards’” that need to be clarified here.
>
> Cary is right, this list/community/whatever is definitely well represented
> by people who sit on formal standards committees or are involved in the
> organizations that create them, etc.
>
> But I think more important is the “what do you mean by ‘standards’”
> question: C4L has definitely spawned several specifications (COinS, UnAPI,
> etc.) and (in my mind) has been under-utilized in this arena for a few
> years.  You’ve got a gathering of smart, like-minded people: if you want to
> create a spec, solicit your idea, start a mailing list, follow the ROGUE
> ’05 rules [1], and let a thousand specifications bloom.
>
> We’re generally in need of a spec, not a standard, I’ve found (although
> they’re definitely not mutually exclusive!).
>
> -Ross.
> 1. http://wiki.code4lib.org/Rogue
>
> On Oct 7, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Salazar, Christina <
> christina.sala...@csuci.edu> wrote:
>
> > OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized c4l"
> AGAIN - we've been there done that, relatively recently too.
> >
> > I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in
> standards making bodies.
> >
> > And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in
> standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on
> the RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this
> conversation is happening with American standards making bodies?
> >
> > Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in
> standards making bodies?
> >
> > Christina
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Francis Kayiwa
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC –
> how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> >
> > On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
> >> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe
> >> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we
> have already.
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > ./fxk
> >
> >
> > --
> > You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Nettie Lagace]

hi Christina,

I am your friendly neighborhood standards person at NISO.  There are also 
several people who are active in NISO who are also active in Code4Lib, and we 
are always looking for more!  I read Code4Lib when I can and attend the 
conference when I can (sad to say that my proposals are never voted in… oh 
standards…)

re RFID: most of the action is now going on at the international level within 
ISO and TC46 (the ISO committee that handles information and documentation). 
There is a working group within TC46, WG11, which handles ISO 28560, RFID in 
Libraries. Revisions and new proposals for extensions to the standard happen 
here.  The Danes are currently serving as the secretariat for this WG: 
http://biblstandard.dk/rfid/  NISO represents the US to TC46 (ANSI is actually 
the ISO member but appoints NISO for this particular role). Hence we appoint 
the US representatives to the WG and handle communication of the US voting 
position for any changes that need to be approved at the TC46 level.  I would 
be happy to coordinate any further questions you might have.

I should also say that I disagree that BISG is anti-libraries, as another 
commenter opined. However, it’s true that libraries are not its primary 
constituency.  NISO is a strong industry partner with BISG on cross-industry 
standards and communication, and we work together on many initiatives to make 
sure that requirements and perspectives from each group re metadata, business 
practices, etc. are shared as much as possible. 

Cheers,
Nettie
--
Nettie Lagace
Associate Director for Programs
National Information Standards Organization (NISO)
3600 Clipper Mill Road, Suite 302
Baltimore, MD 21211
Mobile: 617-863-0501
Fax: 410-685-5278
E-mail: nlag...@niso.org


On Oct 7, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Salazar, Christina  
wrote:

> OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized c4l" 
> AGAIN - we've been there done that, relatively recently too.
> 
> I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in 
> standards making bodies.
> 
> And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in 
> standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on the 
> RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this 
> conversation is happening with American standards making bodies?
> 
> Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in 
> standards making bodies?
> 
> Christina
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of 
> Francis Kayiwa
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how 
> should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> 
> On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
>> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe 
>> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we have 
>> already.
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> ./fxk
> 
> 
> --
> You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC ­ how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Owen, Will]

Andrew Pace always used to say "We have only two standards: Sub-standard
and Non-standard."



On 10/8/14 8:57 AM, "Andrew Anderson"  wrote:

>On Oct 8, 2014, at 4:54, Ross Singer  wrote:
>
>> We¹re generally in need of a spec, not a standard, I¹ve found (although
>>they¹re definitely not mutually exclusive!).
>
>
>The wonderful thing about standards, is that there are so many to choose
>from.
>
>-- 
>Andrew Anderson, Director of Development, Library and Information
>Resources Network, Inc.
>http://www.lirn.net/ | http://www.twitter.com/LIRNnotes |
>http://www.facebook.com/LIRNnotes

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Andrew Anderson]

On Oct 8, 2014, at 4:54, Ross Singer  wrote:

> We’re generally in need of a spec, not a standard, I’ve found (although 
> they’re definitely not mutually exclusive!).


The wonderful thing about standards, is that there are so many to choose from.

-- 
Andrew Anderson, Director of Development, Library and Information Resources 
Network, Inc.
http://www.lirn.net/ | http://www.twitter.com/LIRNnotes | 
http://www.facebook.com/LIRNnotes

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Chris Fitzpatrick]

Oh I definitely agree. Some of my best friends are narcissists, so I get
it.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Riley Childs 
wrote:

> I like c4l because there are limited standards... Just sayin'
>
> Riley Childs
> Senior
> Charlotte United Christian Academy
> Library Services Administrator
> IT Services
> (704) 497-2086
> rileychilds.net
> @rowdychildren
> 
> From: Chris Fitzpatrick<mailto:chrisfitz...@gmail.com>
> Sent: ‎10/‎8/‎2014 7:53 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how
> should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
>
> So this thread started from talking about RFID ( "i'm interested!" ) to
> talking about augmented reality ( "uh, ok, now less interested...") to
> talking about standards ( "oh no, not again.." ) to talking about c4l (
> "yep." )
>
> So, are people using RFID? A lot? Is it working, or did it make life
> hellish?
>
> b,chris.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ross Singer 
> wrote:
>
> > I guess there’s “what do you mean by ‘C4L'” and “what do you mean by
> > ‘standards’” that need to be clarified here.
> >
> > Cary is right, this list/community/whatever is definitely well
> represented
> > by people who sit on formal standards committees or are involved in the
> > organizations that create them, etc.
> >
> > But I think more important is the “what do you mean by ‘standards’”
> > question: C4L has definitely spawned several specifications (COinS,
> UnAPI,
> > etc.) and (in my mind) has been under-utilized in this arena for a few
> > years.  You’ve got a gathering of smart, like-minded people: if you want
> to
> > create a spec, solicit your idea, start a mailing list, follow the ROGUE
> > ’05 rules [1], and let a thousand specifications bloom.
> >
> > We’re generally in need of a spec, not a standard, I’ve found (although
> > they’re definitely not mutually exclusive!).
> >
> > -Ross.
> > 1. http://wiki.code4lib.org/Rogue
> >
> > On Oct 7, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Salazar, Christina <
> > christina.sala...@csuci.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized
> c4l"
> > AGAIN - we've been there done that, relatively recently too.
> > >
> > > I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in
> > standards making bodies.
> > >
> > > And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in
> > standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on
> > the RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this
> > conversation is happening with American standards making bodies?
> > >
> > > Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in
> > standards making bodies?
> > >
> > > Christina
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf
> Of
> > Francis Kayiwa
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
> > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC –
> > how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> > >
> > > On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
> > >> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe
> > >> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we
> > have already.
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > >
> > > ./fxk
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Riley Childs]

I like c4l because there are limited standards... Just sayin'

Riley Childs
Senior
Charlotte United Christian Academy
Library Services Administrator
IT Services
(704) 497-2086
rileychilds.net
@rowdychildren

From: Chris Fitzpatrick<mailto:chrisfitz...@gmail.com>
Sent: ‎10/‎8/‎2014 7:53 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how 
should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

So this thread started from talking about RFID ( "i'm interested!" ) to
talking about augmented reality ( "uh, ok, now less interested...") to
talking about standards ( "oh no, not again.." ) to talking about c4l (
"yep." )

So, are people using RFID? A lot? Is it working, or did it make life
hellish?

b,chris.



On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ross Singer  wrote:

> I guess there’s “what do you mean by ‘C4L'” and “what do you mean by
> ‘standards’” that need to be clarified here.
>
> Cary is right, this list/community/whatever is definitely well represented
> by people who sit on formal standards committees or are involved in the
> organizations that create them, etc.
>
> But I think more important is the “what do you mean by ‘standards’”
> question: C4L has definitely spawned several specifications (COinS, UnAPI,
> etc.) and (in my mind) has been under-utilized in this arena for a few
> years.  You’ve got a gathering of smart, like-minded people: if you want to
> create a spec, solicit your idea, start a mailing list, follow the ROGUE
> ’05 rules [1], and let a thousand specifications bloom.
>
> We’re generally in need of a spec, not a standard, I’ve found (although
> they’re definitely not mutually exclusive!).
>
> -Ross.
> 1. http://wiki.code4lib.org/Rogue
>
> On Oct 7, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Salazar, Christina <
> christina.sala...@csuci.edu> wrote:
>
> > OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized c4l"
> AGAIN - we've been there done that, relatively recently too.
> >
> > I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in
> standards making bodies.
> >
> > And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in
> standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on
> the RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this
> conversation is happening with American standards making bodies?
> >
> > Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in
> standards making bodies?
> >
> > Christina
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Francis Kayiwa
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC –
> how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> >
> > On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
> >> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe
> >> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we
> have already.
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > ./fxk
> >
> >
> > --
> > You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Chris Fitzpatrick]

So this thread started from talking about RFID ( "i'm interested!" ) to
talking about augmented reality ( "uh, ok, now less interested...") to
talking about standards ( "oh no, not again.." ) to talking about c4l (
"yep." )

So, are people using RFID? A lot? Is it working, or did it make life
hellish?

b,chris.



On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ross Singer  wrote:

> I guess there’s “what do you mean by ‘C4L'” and “what do you mean by
> ‘standards’” that need to be clarified here.
>
> Cary is right, this list/community/whatever is definitely well represented
> by people who sit on formal standards committees or are involved in the
> organizations that create them, etc.
>
> But I think more important is the “what do you mean by ‘standards’”
> question: C4L has definitely spawned several specifications (COinS, UnAPI,
> etc.) and (in my mind) has been under-utilized in this arena for a few
> years.  You’ve got a gathering of smart, like-minded people: if you want to
> create a spec, solicit your idea, start a mailing list, follow the ROGUE
> ’05 rules [1], and let a thousand specifications bloom.
>
> We’re generally in need of a spec, not a standard, I’ve found (although
> they’re definitely not mutually exclusive!).
>
> -Ross.
> 1. http://wiki.code4lib.org/Rogue
>
> On Oct 7, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Salazar, Christina <
> christina.sala...@csuci.edu> wrote:
>
> > OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized c4l"
> AGAIN - we've been there done that, relatively recently too.
> >
> > I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in
> standards making bodies.
> >
> > And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in
> standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on
> the RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this
> conversation is happening with American standards making bodies?
> >
> > Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in
> standards making bodies?
> >
> > Christina
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Francis Kayiwa
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC –
> how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> >
> > On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
> >> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe
> >> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we
> have already.
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > ./fxk
> >
> >
> > --
> > You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Ross Singer]

I guess there’s “what do you mean by ‘C4L'” and “what do you mean by 
‘standards’” that need to be clarified here.

Cary is right, this list/community/whatever is definitely well represented by 
people who sit on formal standards committees or are involved in the 
organizations that create them, etc.

But I think more important is the “what do you mean by ‘standards’” question: 
C4L has definitely spawned several specifications (COinS, UnAPI, etc.) and (in 
my mind) has been under-utilized in this arena for a few years.  You’ve got a 
gathering of smart, like-minded people: if you want to create a spec, solicit 
your idea, start a mailing list, follow the ROGUE ’05 rules [1], and let a 
thousand specifications bloom.

We’re generally in need of a spec, not a standard, I’ve found (although they’re 
definitely not mutually exclusive!).

-Ross.
1. http://wiki.code4lib.org/Rogue

On Oct 7, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Salazar, Christina  
wrote:

> OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized c4l" 
> AGAIN - we've been there done that, relatively recently too.
> 
> I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in 
> standards making bodies.
> 
> And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in 
> standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on the 
> RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this 
> conversation is happening with American standards making bodies?
> 
> Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in 
> standards making bodies?
> 
> Christina
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of 
> Francis Kayiwa
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how 
> should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> 
> On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
>> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe 
>> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we have 
>> already.
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> ./fxk
> 
> 
> --
> You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Cornel Darden Jr.]

Hello,

Thanks Kyle. 

Thanks,

Cornel Darden Jr.  
MSLIS
Library Department Chair
South Suburban College
7087052945

"Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong 
learning."

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Kyle Banerjee  wrote:

>> 
>> I think code4 lib is fine as it is, but I think we definitely need a
>> professional organization for librarians that code. These talks of
>> standards and guidelines may reflect such a need. I think LITA is awesome
>> as well! But is there not a need for something else?
> 
> Aside from the library specific organizations mentioned already, there are
> plenty of professional organizations for librarians who code. I'm partial
> to ACM, but IEEE is another obvious choice and there are others.  Mixing it
> up with people who come from different backgrounds and do different things
> is fun, exposes you to more stuff, and prevents intellectual inbreeding.
> 
> Don't discount local groups. They're normally less specialized, but face
> time helps you make connections between people, systems, methods, etc that
> you otherwise wouldn't.
> 
> kyle

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Genny Engel]

This is disturbing to me.  I thought we had agreed not to mention the C4L 
Illuminati.




-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Maura 
Carbone
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:54 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android 
and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

I feel like someone needs to design a C4L Illuminati t-shirt for C4L 2015.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Cornel Darden Jr. 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> C4l illuminati, I like it!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cornel Darden Jr.
> MSLIS
> Library Department Chair
> South Suburban College
> 7087052945
>
> "Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong
> learning."
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 7, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Cary Gordon  wrote:
> >
> > I mean that there are plenty of individuals on the c4l list who are
> > involved at various levels with various standards bodies, NISO being the
> > most well represented. I was not referring to the shadowy c4l illuminati
> > society that controls everything.
> >
> > Cary
> >
> > -- Forwarded message ------
> > From: Salazar, Christina 
> > Date: Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC –
> how
> > should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> > To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu
> >
> >
> > OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized c4l"
> > AGAIN - we've been there done that, relatively recently too.
> >
> > I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in
> > standards making bodies.
> >
> > And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in
> > standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on
> > the RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this
> > conversation is happening with American standards making bodies?
> >
> > Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in
> > standards making bodies?
> >
> > Christina
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> > Francis Kayiwa
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC –
> how
> > should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> >
> > On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
> >> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe
> >> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we
> > have already.
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > ./fxk
> >
> >
> > --
> > You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cary Gordon
> > The Cherry Hill Company
> > http://chillco.com
>



-- 
Maura Carbone
Digital Initiatives Librarian
Brandeis University
Library and Technology Services
(781) 736-4659
415 South Street, (MS 017/P.O. Box 549110)
Waltham, MA 02454-9110
email: mau...@brandeis.edu

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Maura Carbone]

I feel like someone needs to design a C4L Illuminati t-shirt for C4L 2015.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Cornel Darden Jr. 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> C4l illuminati, I like it!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cornel Darden Jr.
> MSLIS
> Library Department Chair
> South Suburban College
> 7087052945
>
> "Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong
> learning."
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 7, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Cary Gordon  wrote:
> >
> > I mean that there are plenty of individuals on the c4l list who are
> > involved at various levels with various standards bodies, NISO being the
> > most well represented. I was not referring to the shadowy c4l illuminati
> > society that controls everything.
> >
> > Cary
> >
> > -- Forwarded message ------
> > From: Salazar, Christina 
> > Date: Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC –
> how
> > should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> > To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu
> >
> >
> > OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized c4l"
> > AGAIN - we've been there done that, relatively recently too.
> >
> > I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in
> > standards making bodies.
> >
> > And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in
> > standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on
> > the RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this
> > conversation is happening with American standards making bodies?
> >
> > Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in
> > standards making bodies?
> >
> > Christina
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> > Francis Kayiwa
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC –
> how
> > should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> >
> > On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
> >> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe
> >> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we
> > have already.
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > ./fxk
> >
> >
> > --
> > You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cary Gordon
> > The Cherry Hill Company
> > http://chillco.com
>



-- 
Maura Carbone
Digital Initiatives Librarian
Brandeis University
Library and Technology Services
(781) 736-4659
415 South Street, (MS 017/P.O. Box 549110)
Waltham, MA 02454-9110
email: mau...@brandeis.edu

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Cornel Darden Jr.]

Hello, 

C4l illuminati, I like it!

Thanks,

Cornel Darden Jr.  
MSLIS
Library Department Chair
South Suburban College
7087052945

"Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong 
learning."

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Cary Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I mean that there are plenty of individuals on the c4l list who are
> involved at various levels with various standards bodies, NISO being the
> most well represented. I was not referring to the shadowy c4l illuminati
> society that controls everything.
> 
> Cary
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Salazar, Christina 
> Date: Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how
> should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu
> 
> 
> OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized c4l"
> AGAIN - we've been there done that, relatively recently too.
> 
> I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in
> standards making bodies.
> 
> And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in
> standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on
> the RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this
> conversation is happening with American standards making bodies?
> 
> Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in
> standards making bodies?
> 
> Christina
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Francis Kayiwa
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how
> should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> 
> On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
>> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe
>> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we
> have already.
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> ./fxk
> 
> 
> --
> You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cary Gordon
> The Cherry Hill Company
> http://chillco.com

[CODE4LIB] Fwd: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Cary Gordon]

I mean that there are plenty of individuals on the c4l list who are
involved at various levels with various standards bodies, NISO being the
most well represented. I was not referring to the shadowy c4l illuminati
society that controls everything.

Cary

-- Forwarded message --
From: Salazar, Christina 
Date: Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how
should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu


OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized c4l"
AGAIN - we've been there done that, relatively recently too.

I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in
standards making bodies.

And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in
standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on
the RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this
conversation is happening with American standards making bodies?

Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in
standards making bodies?

Christina

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
Francis Kayiwa
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how
should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:



  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe
> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we
have already.

+1


./fxk


--
You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.



-- 
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Salazar, Christina]

OH NO! (shudder) I’m pretty sure no one is suggesting a "formalized c4l" AGAIN 
- we've been there done that, relatively recently too.

I think what we're talking about is a way to represent c4l interests in 
standards making bodies.

And just for my own edification, if you're saying c4l IS represented in 
standards making bodies, please tell me who do I talk to? For instance on the 
RFID thing, who can I talk to in order to find out HOW and IF this conversation 
is happening with American standards making bodies?

Or do you mean INDIVIDUALS who participate in c4l are represented in standards 
making bodies?

Christina

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Francis 
Kayiwa
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how 
should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:



  NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
> etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe 
> that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we have 
> already.

+1


./fxk


--
You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Kyle Banerjee]

>
> I think code4 lib is fine as it is, but I think we definitely need a
> professional organization for librarians that code. These talks of
> standards and guidelines may reflect such a need. I think LITA is awesome
> as well! But is there not a need for something else?
>

Aside from the library specific organizations mentioned already, there are
plenty of professional organizations for librarians who code. I'm partial
to ACM, but IEEE is another obvious choice and there are others.  Mixing it
up with people who come from different backgrounds and do different things
is fun, exposes you to more stuff, and prevents intellectual inbreeding.

Don't discount local groups. They're normally less specialized, but face
time helps you make connections between people, systems, methods, etc that
you otherwise wouldn't.

kyle

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[todd.d.robb...@gmail.com]

Of interest to the initial discussion topic:

http://google.github.io/physical-web/

What is this?
>
> The Physical Web is an approach to unleash the core superpower of the web:
> interaction on demand. People should be able to walk up to any smart device
> - a vending machine, a poster, a toy, a bus stop, a rental car - and not
> have to download an app first. Everything should be just a tap away.
>
> The Physical Web is not shipping yet nor is it a Google product. This is
> an early-stage experimental project and we're developing it out in the open
> as we do all things related to the web. This should only be of interest to
> developers looking to test out this feature and provide us feedback.
>


-- 
Tod Robbins
Digital Asset Manager, MLIS
todrobbins.com | @todrobbins 

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Francis Kayiwa]

On 10/07/2014 02:03 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:



 NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,

etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe that a
formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we have already.


+1


./fxk


--
You single-handedly fought your way into this hopeless mess.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Cary Gordon]

The has been little interest in formalizing c4l, and many folks believe
that our strength is in our ad hoc-ness.

I generally resist getting involved in discussions of standards, because
while I am a strong advocate for standards, I have been a member of NISO,
invested a lot of time in a couple standards, and I have seen how the
sausage is made, or more aptly, fails to get made. NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe that a
formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we have already.

As to the original reference, suffice it to say that I believe BISG — the
US counterpart to BIC — sees libraries as competition and will not do
anything to help them.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Cornel Darden Jr.  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I think code4lib is awesome and I've seen threads on this list before that
> discussed whether code4lib should become a more traditional organization. I
> think code4 lib is fine as it is, but I think we definitely need a
> professional organization for librarians that code. These talks of
> standards and guidelines may reflect such a need. I think LITA is awesome
> as well! But is there not a need for something else?
>
> As far as print books go, they are much too slow and don't functionally
> meet modern information needs, at least not in their current form (internet
> of things?) Maybe a little AR would help. The DRM, publishing, software,
> and standards issues are inhibitors, but I think the ship has sailed on the
> millions of non connected print books in academic library shelves.  I
> wouldn't get rid of them. But their days are numbered. I think print books
> are a niche and if we don't provide then we would lose an important part of
> culture. But I do wonder, how many open stacks have clay tablets and
> scrolls? Personally, I wish they did. But I wouldnt recommend that they be
> used to do serious work.
>
> Cornel Darden Jr.
> MSLIS
> Library Department Chair
> South Suburban College
> 7087052945
>
> "Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong
> learning."
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 7, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Salazar, Christina <
> christina.sala...@csuci.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I love C4L too, but
> >
> > Can/does C4L have players on NISO for example - what is C4L involvement
> in standards? Should/could C4L be involved in standards? (And probably
> tangentially, is C4L a professional organization?)
> >
> > Wow, this is turning into another iteration of the "library community
> web standards" thread from last week, isn't it?
> >
> > But man, I think we're losing so many opportunities to have a voice in
> the development of technologies that could be useful to us and our users.
> >
> > Christina
> > PS, just to throw this back in response: I disagree that "current print
> books in academic libraries aren't conducive to student learning" - they're
> just more one tool in the research tool kit, aren't they and would they get
> used more often if librarians made them easier to use?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Cary Gordon
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 8:53 AM
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC –
> how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> >
> > This is as good as it gets, which is pretty good in my opinion.
> >
> > Cary Gordon, MLS
> >
> > On Monday, October 6, 2014, Cornel Darden Jr. 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there a professional organization for librarians who code?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cary Gordon
> > The Cherry Hill Company
> > http://chillco.com
>



-- 
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Cornel Darden Jr.]

Hello,

I think code4lib is awesome and I've seen threads on this list before that 
discussed whether code4lib should become a more traditional organization. I 
think code4 lib is fine as it is, but I think we definitely need a professional 
organization for librarians that code. These talks of standards and guidelines 
may reflect such a need. I think LITA is awesome as well! But is there not a 
need for something else?

As far as print books go, they are much too slow and don't functionally meet 
modern information needs, at least not in their current form (internet of 
things?) Maybe a little AR would help. The DRM, publishing, software, and 
standards issues are inhibitors, but I think the ship has sailed on the 
millions of non connected print books in academic library shelves.  I wouldn't 
get rid of them. But their days are numbered. I think print books are a niche 
and if we don't provide then we would lose an important part of culture. But I 
do wonder, how many open stacks have clay tablets and scrolls? Personally, I 
wish they did. But I wouldnt recommend that they be used to do serious work. 

Cornel Darden Jr.  
MSLIS
Library Department Chair
South Suburban College
7087052945

"Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong 
learning."

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Salazar, Christina  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I love C4L too, but
> 
> Can/does C4L have players on NISO for example - what is C4L involvement in 
> standards? Should/could C4L be involved in standards? (And probably 
> tangentially, is C4L a professional organization?)
> 
> Wow, this is turning into another iteration of the "library community web 
> standards" thread from last week, isn't it?
> 
> But man, I think we're losing so many opportunities to have a voice in the 
> development of technologies that could be useful to us and our users.
> 
> Christina
> PS, just to throw this back in response: I disagree that "current print books 
> in academic libraries aren't conducive to student learning" - they're just 
> more one tool in the research tool kit, aren't they and would they get used 
> more often if librarians made them easier to use?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary 
> Gordon
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 8:53 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how 
> should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> 
> This is as good as it gets, which is pretty good in my opinion.
> 
> Cary Gordon, MLS
> 
> On Monday, October 6, 2014, Cornel Darden Jr. 
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Is there a professional organization for librarians who code?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cary Gordon
> The Cherry Hill Company
> http://chillco.com

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Salazar, Christina]

Yes, I love C4L too, but

Can/does C4L have players on NISO for example - what is C4L involvement in 
standards? Should/could C4L be involved in standards? (And probably 
tangentially, is C4L a professional organization?)

Wow, this is turning into another iteration of the "library community web 
standards" thread from last week, isn't it?

But man, I think we're losing so many opportunities to have a voice in the 
development of technologies that could be useful to us and our users.

Christina
PS, just to throw this back in response: I disagree that "current print books 
in academic libraries aren't conducive to student learning" - they're just more 
one tool in the research tool kit, aren't they and would they get used more 
often if librarians made them easier to use?

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary 
Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 8:53 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how 
should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

This is as good as it gets, which is pretty good in my opinion.

Cary Gordon, MLS

On Monday, October 6, 2014, Cornel Darden Jr. 
wrote:
>
>
> Is there a professional organization for librarians who code?
>


-- 
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Cary Gordon]

This is as good as it gets, which is pretty good in my opinion.

Cary Gordon, MLS

On Monday, October 6, 2014, Cornel Darden Jr. 
wrote:
>
>
> Is there a professional organization for librarians who code?
>


-- 
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com

Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Cornel Darden Jr.]

Hello,

Augmented Reality, Virtually Reality, and RFID are definitely the future. 
However, we need more input into these technologies, protocols, and standards. 
We need a coding army. We need a professional organization of coding 
librarians. The current print books in academic libraries aren't conducive to 
student learning (just need to throw that out there)

Technologies like RFID shouldn't be overlooked by libraries. 

I would definitely like to use this technology in my library for self check out 
and Geo location. This would help with iRoving, wearables, and discovery. 

Is there a professional organization for librarians who code?

Thanks, 

Cornel Darden Jr.  
MSLIS
Library Department Chair
South Suburban College
7087052945

"Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong 
learning."

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Salazar, Christina  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey C4L’ers,
> 
> I hope this isn’t too spammy, but in the last round of “how are you building 
> your stack mapping” app, I mentioned the potential of RFID to fulfill this 
> need in the future (or did I chicken out on that post?) instead of using 
> barcodes that then interact with a database …
> 
> This SHORT (I promise) blog by a British RFID expert talks about that use as 
> well as some other NFC uses in libraries: 
> http://www.mickfortune.com/Wordpress/?p=1185
> 
> Seems like whenever I bring this up, I hear crickets chirping but since a 
> whole bunch o’ libraries adopted RFID (many of whom later abandoned it), 
> wouldn’t it be cool to leverage RID and our users’ mobile devices to assist 
> them in various ways?
> 
> Christina Salazar
> Systems Librarian
> John Spoor Broome Library
> California State University, Channel Islands
> 805/437-3198
> [Description: Description: CI Formal Logo_1B grad_em signature]
> 

[CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)

[Salazar, Christina]

Hey C4L’ers,

I hope this isn’t too spammy, but in the last round of “how are you building 
your stack mapping” app, I mentioned the potential of RFID to fulfill this need 
in the future (or did I chicken out on that post?) instead of using barcodes 
that then interact with a database …

This SHORT (I promise) blog by a British RFID expert talks about that use as 
well as some other NFC uses in libraries: 
http://www.mickfortune.com/Wordpress/?p=1185

Seems like whenever I bring this up, I hear crickets chirping but since a whole 
bunch o’ libraries adopted RFID (many of whom later abandoned it), wouldn’t it 
be cool to leverage RID and our users’ mobile devices to assist them in various 
ways?

Christina Salazar
Systems Librarian
John Spoor Broome Library
California State University, Channel Islands
805/437-3198
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