I appreciate your attention to this stuff Roy, but I'm afraid that
doesn't really work either.
I think MOST libraries that use OCLC Worldcat for the bulk of their
cataloging do NOT in fact contribute all cataloging or holdings back
to worldcat. Many libraries have particular items that for
- Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I appreciate your attention to this stuff Roy, but I'm afraid that
doesn't really work either.
I think MOST libraries that use OCLC Worldcat for the bulk of their
cataloging do NOT in fact contribute all cataloging or holdings
back
to
Ah, yes, that's much clearer, thanks!
Jenn
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Roy Tennant
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On 10/2/08 10/2/08 € 2:39 PM
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Ya¹aqov Ziso
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Andrew Houghton, kindly explain:
1. LC names/subjects authority files, current with 2008-09-17
On 10/2/08 10/2/08 2:39 PM, Jenn Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the link, Roy. I hadn't taken the time to look this far into the
Grid Services terms of use. One thing stuck out to me, though. What does
Library members that do ***all*** their cataloging with an OCLC subscription
to
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On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LOC Authority Data
Also, I noticed another dump on the IA of Library of Congress updates
since the initial Bisson load.
http://www.archive.org/details/marc_loc_updates
In typical IA fashion, it's incredibly difficult to know what the hell
this stuff is, though
The NAF (Name/National Authority File) is still one important database
that we are missing any kind of good machine access to, I believe.
Agreed. As part of our research project we have enhanced some of the
vocabulary data in the service to provide mappings and links between
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Roy Tennant
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Actually, member is more appropriate, and it is not presently behind
any
sort of wall in its current experimental mode
: [CODE4LIB] LOC Authority Data
If only we knew someone who worked in the LOC that we could tell this
information to
From: Code for Libraries [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
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On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought I remembered something about Casey Bisson doing exactly that with
a grant/award he received? I forget what happened to it. A snapshot would
just be a snapshot of course
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought I remembered something about Casey Bisson doing exactly that with
a grant/award he received? I forget what happened to it. A snapshot would
just be a snapshot of course, it wouldn't include records created or
On 29 September 2008, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
I thought I remembered something about Casey Bisson doing exactly that with a
grant/award he received? I forget what happened to it. A snapshot would just
be a snapshot of course, it wouldn't include records created or modified
after the
Also, I noticed another dump on the IA of Library of Congress updates
since the initial Bisson load.
http://www.archive.org/details/marc_loc_updates
In typical IA fashion, it's incredibly difficult to know what the hell
this stuff is, though.
-Ross.
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Ed Summers
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ross Singer
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 7:45 PM
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Also, I noticed another dump on the IA of Library of Congress updates
since the initial Bisson load
customer to benefit from this?
-Ross.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Houghton,Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ross Singer
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Also, I noticed another dump on the IA of Library of Congress updates
since the initial Bisson load.
http://www.archive.org/details/marc_loc_updates
In typical IA fashion, it's incredibly difficult to know what
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ross Singer
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:23 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume you need to be an OCLC
customer to benefit from this?
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ross
, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Houghton,Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ross Singer
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Also, I noticed another dump
: [CODE4LIB] LOC Authority Data
Also, I noticed another dump on the IA of Library of Congress updates
since the initial Bisson load.
http://www.archive.org/details/marc_loc_updates
In typical IA fashion, it's incredibly difficult to know what the hell
this stuff is, though.
-Ross.
If you just
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Rochkind
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The NAF (Name/National Authority File) is still one important database
that we are missing
PM
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From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
Jonathan Rochkind
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The NAF (Name
Socialized medicine? Sure. *We* have authority files!
-t
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, David Fiander wrote:
One of the most important pages in the print volumes of the Library of
Congress Subject Headings (LCSH), is the title page verso, which
includes publication and copyright details. The folks at
to the data.
Andrew
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Jason Griffey
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:06 PM
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Simon Spero at UNC did a scrape of the entirety
Although note that these are only *subject* authorities.
Andrew, I think you may also be looking for name authorities (since I
assume this inquiry came from a suspiciously topically similar thread
on vufind-tech).
Yes - I would love to be able to obtain all authority files.
Also, Ed's
Individual facts or datum are not copyrightable, but collections of
facts -- particular expressions of data -- are. This is what makes
phone books, databases, and the like subject to copyright.
P.S. N.B. IANAL
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh! You're right, they're clear about that on their web page, as well.
As Bryan points out.
So, wait: A bunch of libraries could pool together, buy the Whole
Enchilada for $28k, and put up a torrent?
Or, put another way, for less than the base salary of a starting
developer, *everyone* in the US
As of last update of the LOC authority files, 08-11-2008:
Name authority files total 7,161,713 records
Subject authority files total 339,144 records
http://www.loc.gov/cds/PDFdownloads/csb/index.html informs us American
citizens of
the quarterly updates for New Subjects, and Replacement
Actually, I'm pretty sure a phone book is not, in the US, in general,
copyrightable.
I don't believe US law has any special protection for collections of
facts. The canonical introductory intellectual property class example,
which happens to be about a phone book in fact, is Feist v. Rural
Nathan Vack wrote:
So, wait: A bunch of libraries could pool together, buy the Whole
Enchilada for $28k, and put up a torrent?
I thought I remembered something about Casey Bisson doing exactly that
with a grant/award he received? I forget what happened to it. A snapshot
would just be a
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought I remembered something about Casey Bisson doing exactly that with
a grant/award he received? I forget what happened to it. A snapshot would
just be a snapshot of course, it wouldn't include records created or
I think they're available on the Internet Archive somewhere too? But I
can never remember where.
Jonathan
Jason Griffey wrote:
As I mentioned, they are available from Ibiblio on the link above. The
copyright claim is...well...specious at best. But no one really wants
to be the one to go to
Interestingly, outside the US it's somewhat more possible to claim
copyright on factual data than inside the US, Europe for instance has
types of IP and copyright protection for databases that the US does not.
But basically, the answer is that nobody knows for sure, not even the
lawyers.
On Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:35 PM, Andrew Nagy wrote:
Hello - I am curious if anyone knows of a way to access the entire collection
of authority records from the LOC. It seems that the only way to access them
know is one record at a time. Feel free to email me off line if you are
Simon Spero at UNC did a scrape of the entirety of the LoC Authority
files in Dec of 2006. They are available at Fred 2.0:
http://www.ibiblio.org/fred2.0/wordpress/?page_id=10
Jason
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Andrew Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello - I am curious if anyone knows of a
One of the most important pages in the print volumes of the Library of
Congress Subject Headings (LCSH), is the title page verso, which
includes publication and copyright details. The folks at LC very
clearly understand US copyright law, since on that page you can see
that they claim that the LCSH
Andrew Nagy wrote:
|Hello - I am curious if anyone knows of a way to access the
|entire collection of authority records from the LOC. It seems
|that the only way to access them know is one record at a time.
| Feel free to email me off line if you are uncomfortable
|posting a response to the
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