Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Pottinger, Hardy J.
Hi, I'll just chime in for my favorite backup solution for my stuff at home: BackuPC [1]. You set up a dedicated box on your local network, and it backs up configured clients (Mac, Linux, Windows), whenever it finds them. I've got it tweaked a bit to also back up a few personal web sites that I sup

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Esmé Cowles
Mark- One option which works on any Linux/Unix machine (including OSX) is rsync with the --link-dest option. This does the same thing as Time Machine: it creates backups that hardlink to existing copies of files (if they exist) saving disk space on unchanged files. There are lots of instructi

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Jordan
Hi Mike, - Original Message - > I've been happy with sbackup for a while now, though I believe the > latest Ubuntus are using DejaDup? > > But I can't remember the last time I needed to restore a file. > Me either - my use case is restoring my whole system. I've had two Macbooks over 5

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Thomas Bennett
I don't know how it compares to Time Machine but as far as Linux backup software goes I really like Bacula. You can backup to disk, tape, or tape libraries. Thomas On Friday 16 December 2011 13:06:02 you wrote: > Apologies to anyone who is not interested in this thread, but I'm curious > to k

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
I've been happy with sbackup for a while now, though I believe the latest Ubuntus are using DejaDup? But I can't remember the last time I needed to restore a file. -Mike On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 13:06, Mark Jordan wrote: > Apologies to anyone who is not interested in this thread, but I'm curiou

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Jordan
Apologies to anyone who is not interested in this thread, but I'm curious to know what backup software comparable to OS X Time Machine Linux users have on their lap/desktops. Time Machine is one of those parts of OS X that would make it hard for me to emigrate from the garden. Mark - Origi

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-15 Thread Christian Pietsch
Hi Chris, congratulations on your decision. I went from DOS and Windows to Linux and Mac OS X, but after a few months I returned to Linux for good (firing up Windows only to fill out the occasional MS Word form that looks weird in LibreOffice). You have already received a lot of good advice, so as

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-15 Thread Thomas Bennett
Then there is also, MINIX. A year or two ago they received a large grant to continue work on that OS. My understanding is that the main difference between MINIX and the others is that MINIX only loads modules when required instead of all on boot to minimize the memory footprint. Also, if a mo

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-15 Thread Paul Cummins
On 12/15/2011 09:57 AM, Thomas Bennett wrote: On Wednesday 14 December 2011 11:31:03 you wrote: I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? Any suggestions for distros and hardware? t

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-15 Thread Thomas Bennett
On Wednesday 14 December 2011 11:31:03 you wrote: > I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not > going to take it anymore. > > I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? > Any suggestions for distros and hardware? > > thanks. b,chris. > Short version -

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-15 Thread Iván V . G .
After reading the many responses to your question I just have to add to points to all that's been said: .- Regarding the hardware, I'm lately devoted to Dell, and (at least a few months ago) they have some models with Ubuntu you can buy (there are less configuration options, but you can get s

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Madrigal, Juan A
FreeBSD FTW! ;) -Juan On 12/14/11 5:09 PM, "Alexander Johannesen" wrote: >MJ Ray wrote: > >> I humbly suggest that long futz times are only necessary these days >> when most of the following combine: >> > >Hmm. > > >> 1. unsupported/hard-to-support hardware (maybe bought for compatibility >>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Alexander Johannesen
MJ Ray wrote: > I humbly suggest that long futz times are only necessary these days > when most of the following combine: > Hmm. > 1. unsupported/hard-to-support hardware (maybe bought for compatibility > with another even-fussier operating system?); > Yes, this is the big offender, however

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread MJ Ray
Bill Dueber > Because, really, you'll spend time futzing with linux, trying to get stuff > to work, cursing the many clipboards and config files and losing > productivity up the ying-yang because you're using a different (and, few > would argue, degraded) user environment. I don't see how anyone

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread andrew
On 14.12.2011 11:31, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? Any suggestions for distros and hardware? thanks. b,chris. INSTALL GENTOO

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Diggory
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Devon wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Chris Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > Thanks! > > > > "Evil" doesn't really concern me. > > > > If I could run Ubuntu on a laptop made in the pits of hell by the dark > lord himself, I would certainly do it. > > > > Will

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Devon
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thanks! > > "Evil" doesn't really concern me. > > If I could run Ubuntu on a laptop made in the pits of hell by the dark lord > himself, I would certainly do it. > Will this do? http://ubuntusatanic.org/screenshots.php.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Michael Lindsey
+1 Would love to get tight hardware integration without the social nail polish... On 12/14/2011 11:45 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks! "Evil" doesn't really concern me. If I could run Ubuntu on a laptop made in the pits of hell by the dark lord himself, I would certainly do it. Just as

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Cecchino, Nicola
esday, December 14, 2011 2:41 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop If Apple is "evil", I'd look more towards hardware and its environmental manufacturing impact rather than software/OS/culture. Everyone puts up a good face: http://www.apple.c

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
Thanks! "Evil" doesn't really concern me. If I could run Ubuntu on a laptop made in the pits of hell by the dark lord himself, I would certainly do it. Just as long as I never have to say the words "Genius Bar", I will be happy. On Dec 14, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Birkin Diana wrote: > Possibl

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Birkin Diana
Possible bridges to whatever you decide to get: - Use Ubuntu on VirtualBox on your Mac (yes, I did see the using 'linux in a non-server computer' concern -- thus the bridge qualification). - Depending on the issues and languages you're using, use in-language package-managers. For example, we ha

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Erik Hetzner
At Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:54:09 -0800, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Thanks everyone for all the recommendations. I know this would be this list > to ask. > > Sounds like Ubuntu is the overwhelming favorite. In the past when > I've used a linux in a non-server computer, there are always some > anno

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Roy Zimmer
Check out the below companies. I have no experience with them, but were I in your shoes, I'd take a thorough look. http://www.system76.com/ http://zareason.com/shop/home.php http://www.emperorlinux.com/ Roy Zimmer Western Michigan University On 12/14/2011 11:31 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Dowling
On 12/14/2011 12:18 PM, Bill Dueber wrote: > > The question you should ask yourself -- AND PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, > LET'S NOT HASH IT OUT ON THIS LIST!!! -- is, "How much of my time spent > futzing around with Linux instead of Getting Shit Done is > voting-with-my-feet worth to me?" > "I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
Thanks everyone for all the recommendations. I know this would be this list to ask. Sounds like Ubuntu is the overwhelming favorite. In the past when I've used a linux in a non-server computer, there are always some annoying problems... things like the laptop not waking from sleep mode, power

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Tod Olson
On Dec 14, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Ross Singer wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Mark A. Matienzo wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Ethan Gruber wrote: >>> How much futzing around is required on MacOS since it doesn't have a good >>> package manager? >> >> /usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Mark A. Matienzo wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Ethan Gruber wrote: >> How much futzing around is required on MacOS since it doesn't have a good >> package manager? > > /usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.github.com/gist/323731)" +1 HomeBrew k

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Ethan Gruber wrote: > How much futzing around is required on MacOS since it doesn't have a good > package manager? /usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.github.com/gist/323731)"

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Dave Caroline wrote: > You just cannot do the technical futzing easily on mac or doze, I too > am a Ubuntu user on my desktop and servers > getting stuff done web wise is faster that way.I expect to run the > apache,php,mysql and replicate systems that are servers

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Ethan Gruber
How much futzing around is required on MacOS since it doesn't have a good package manager? On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Dave Caroline wrote: > You just cannot do the technical futzing easily on mac or doze, I too > am a Ubuntu user on my desktop and servers > getting stuff done web wise is

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Dave Caroline
You just cannot do the technical futzing easily on mac or doze, I too am a Ubuntu user on my desktop and servers getting stuff done web wise is faster that way.I expect to run the apache,php,mysql and replicate systems that are servers windows and mac screw with stupid things like case in the file

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Bill Dueber
Like any "mad as hell" moment, I'd advise you to take a few deep breaths and wait a couple days before buying anything. The question you should ask yourself -- AND PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, LET'S NOT HASH IT OUT ON THIS LIST!!! -- is, "How much of my time spent futzing around with Linux instead

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Nate Vack
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: > I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not > going to take it anymore. What caused this moment? If you're thinking "man, OS X is so dodgy" or "this is some crap quality hardware" then a switch is probabl

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Mike Taylor
n Knowlton Wilson >> Instructional Services Librarian >> Room 250, University Library >> 5901 USA Drive North >> University of South Alabama >> Mobile, AL 36688 >> (251) 460-6045 >> ewil...@jaguar1.usouthal.edu >> >> - Original Message -

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Chris Gray
On 2011-12-14 11:31 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? Any suggestions for distros and hardware? thanks. b,chris. It's worth Googling a bit. There

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Jon Stroop
e North University of South Alabama Mobile, AL 36688 (251) 460-6045 ewil...@jaguar1.usouthal.edu - Original Message - From: Chris Fitzpatrick Date: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:32 am Subject: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:31, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: > I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not > going to take it anymore. > > I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? > Any suggestions for distros and hardware? > I've been using Ubuntu since 2006

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Devon
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: > I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not > going to take it anymore. > > I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? > Any suggestions for distros and hardware? > > thanks. b,chris. I've been u

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Dowling
I replaced XP with Ubuntu four years ago and never looked back. I have now run it on pretty run-of-the-mill laptops from Toshiba, Dell, and HP Ubuntu is neither perfect nor bulletproof, but I [almost] never feel it's actively working against me, or being so user-obsequious that I can't actually ge

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Ellen Wilson
ty Library 5901 USA Drive North University of South Alabama Mobile, AL 36688 (251) 460-6045 ewil...@jaguar1.usouthal.edu - Original Message - From: Chris Fitzpatrick Date: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:32 am Subject: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > I just

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Chad Benjamin Nelson
SERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Chris Fitzpatrick [cf...@stanford.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:31 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I'm curious

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Ethan Gruber
Depends on how much you want to pay. You can buy any laptop at BestBuy, Target, etc., format it when you bring it home, and put Linux on it. Unfortunately a portion of the cost of the laptop goes to the Windows 7 license, but that's almost inescapable. Even still, you can get a pretty good laptop

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Randy Fischer
If I was buying a laptop and it had to be non-apple, I'd probably get a Lenovo ThinkPad W520. -Randy On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: > I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not > going to take it anymore. > > I'm curious what people can

[CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? Any suggestions for distros and hardware? thanks. b,chris.