Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
I hear Roy Tennant talked Chuck Norris' fists into not punching him in the face. That's how smart Roy Tennant is. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Frumkin, Jeremy < frumk...@u.library.arizona.edu> wrote: > Is Roy Tennant smarter than Chuck Norris is tough? > > -- jaf > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:51 PM, "Roy Tennant" wrote: > > > Roy Tennant is too smart to have an official position on this. Best to > work it out yourselves. :-) > > Roy > > > > On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Ethan Gruber wrote: > > > >> The begs the question, what is the official Roy Tennant position on > baloney > >> vs. bologna? May I suggest a viaf-like resource for food, in which I > may > >> prefer the baloney label while allowing my data to be cross-searchable > with > >> bologna records? Is there an RDF ontology for this??? > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke > wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson < > abesottedphoe...@yahoo.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > Bacon == Seal of Approval > > Bologna == Seal of Disapproval > > Salami == Seal of No Approval Needed > > > > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships > >>> between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the > appeal > >>> of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its > >>> appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of > >>> disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer > spam in > >>> its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a > >>> quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent > meat, > >>> perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn > >>> about one's approval or lack thereof. > > What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness > >>> of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is > >>> strictly necessary in our mortal affairs. > >>> > >>> I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken > >>> livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech! And, as a vegan, I'd > >>> stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh. That > >>> seems appropriate. > >>> > >>> Fwiw... > >>> Kevin > >>> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
I think you misspelled 'Declicorn'. -nruest On 12-06-07 2:08 PM, Fleming, Declan wrote: I have been on a bar stool since before you were born, and I am quite unattractive. DeclanFace === Seal of Disapproval -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michele R Combs Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 1:19 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum) I dunno, it's hard to imagine anything that's been sitting on a bar stool since before I was born as being remotely attractive. But that might just be because I'm old. Well, old-ish. Michele -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark A. Matienzo Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:17 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum) On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Becky Yoose wrote: We need a meat that is disapproved of universally. May I suggest "pickled pig's ears that have been sitting in a jar on a bar counter since you've been born"? There are cultural assumptions in this disapproval. I suggest you retract this proposal immediately. -- -nruest
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
I have been on a bar stool since before you were born, and I am quite unattractive. DeclanFace === Seal of Disapproval -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michele R Combs Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 1:19 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum) I dunno, it's hard to imagine anything that's been sitting on a bar stool since before I was born as being remotely attractive. But that might just be because I'm old. Well, old-ish. Michele -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark A. Matienzo Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:17 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum) On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Becky Yoose wrote: > We need a meat that is disapproved of universally. May I suggest > "pickled pig's ears that have been sitting in a jar on a bar counter > since you've been born"? There are cultural assumptions in this disapproval. I suggest you retract this proposal immediately.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
Is Roy Tennant smarter than Chuck Norris is tough? -- jaf Sent from my iPad On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:51 PM, "Roy Tennant" wrote: > Roy Tennant is too smart to have an official position on this. Best to work > it out yourselves. :-) > Roy > > On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Ethan Gruber wrote: > >> The begs the question, what is the official Roy Tennant position on baloney >> vs. bologna? May I suggest a viaf-like resource for food, in which I may >> prefer the baloney label while allowing my data to be cross-searchable with >> bologna records? Is there an RDF ontology for this??? >> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson >>> wrote: >>> > Bacon == Seal of Approval > Bologna == Seal of Disapproval > Salami == Seal of No Approval Needed > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships >>> between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal >>> of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its >>> appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of >>> disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in >>> its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a >>> quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat, >>> perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn >>> about one's approval or lack thereof. What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness >>> of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is >>> strictly necessary in our mortal affairs. >>> >>> I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken >>> livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech! And, as a vegan, I'd >>> stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh. That >>> seems appropriate. >>> >>> Fwiw... >>> Kevin >>>
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
Roy Tennant is too smart to have an official position on this. Best to work it out yourselves. :-) Roy On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Ethan Gruber wrote: > The begs the question, what is the official Roy Tennant position on baloney > vs. bologna? May I suggest a viaf-like resource for food, in which I may > prefer the baloney label while allowing my data to be cross-searchable with > bologna records? Is there an RDF ontology for this??? > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson >> wrote: >> Bacon == Seal of Approval Bologna == Seal of Disapproval Salami == Seal of No Approval Needed >>> >>>This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships >> between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal >> of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its >> appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of >> disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in >> its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a >> quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat, >> perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn >> about one's approval or lack thereof. >>> >>> What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness >> of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is >> strictly necessary in our mortal affairs. >> >> I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken >> livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech! And, as a vegan, I'd >> stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh. That >> seems appropriate. >> >> Fwiw... >> Kevin >>
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
On the internet, no one knows you're a dog. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Truitt, Marc wrote: > On 06/05/2012 02:18 PM, Michele R Combs wrote: >> >> I dunno, it's hard to imagine anything that's been sitting on a bar stool >> since before I was born as being remotely attractive. > > > Hmm... sounds as though you've not ever lived with a Labrador Retriever! > Most Labs I've met would be in dog heaven at the thought of this kind of... > umm... "delicacy". :) > > - mt > > -- > * > Marc Truitt > Associate University Librarian, > Bibliographic and Information Voice : 780-492-4770 > Technology Services e-mail : marc.tru...@ualberta.ca > University of Alberta Libraries fax : 780-492-9243 > Cameron Library cell : 780-217-0356 > Edmonton, AB T6G 2J8 > > "It remains difficult to know when and how much to trust the wisdom of > crowds [...] Crowds turn all too quickly into mobs, with their time- > honored manifestations: manias, bubbles, lynch mobs, flash mobs, > crusades, mass hysteria, herd mentality, goose-stepping, conformity, > groupthink [...]. Collective judgment has appealing possibilities; > collective self-deception and collective evil have already left a > cataclysmic record." > -- , 2011 > *
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
On 06/05/2012 02:18 PM, Michele R Combs wrote: I dunno, it's hard to imagine anything that's been sitting on a bar stool since before I was born as being remotely attractive. Hmm... sounds as though you've not ever lived with a Labrador Retriever! Most Labs I've met would be in dog heaven at the thought of this kind of... umm... "delicacy". :) - mt -- * Marc Truitt Associate University Librarian, Bibliographic and Information Voice : 780-492-4770 Technology Services e-mail : marc.tru...@ualberta.ca University of Alberta Libraries fax: 780-492-9243 Cameron Library cell : 780-217-0356 Edmonton, AB T6G 2J8 "It remains difficult to know when and how much to trust the wisdom of crowds [...] Crowds turn all too quickly into mobs, with their time- honored manifestations: manias, bubbles, lynch mobs, flash mobs, crusades, mass hysteria, herd mentality, goose-stepping, conformity, groupthink [...]. Collective judgment has appealing possibilities; collective self-deception and collective evil have already left a cataclysmic record." -- , 2011 *
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
I'd have to disagree. Clearly, IMHO, seitan is the vegan Seal of No Approval Needed. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson > wrote: > > >> Bacon == Seal of Approval > >> Bologna == Seal of Disapproval > >> Salami == Seal of No Approval Needed > >> > > > > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships > between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal > of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its > appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of > disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in > its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a > quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat, > perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn > about one's approval or lack thereof. > > > > What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness > of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is > strictly necessary in our mortal affairs. > > I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken > livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech! And, as a vegan, I'd > stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh. That > seems appropriate. > > Fwiw... > Kevin > -- Ellen Knowlton Wilson Instructional Services Librarian Room 250, University Library University of South Alabama 5901 USA Drive North Mobile, AL 36688 (251) 460-6045 Please note new email address: ewil...@southalabama.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Becky Yoose wrote: > We need a meat that is disapproved of universally. May I suggest "pickled > pig's ears that have been sitting in a jar on a bar counter since you've > been born"? There are cultural assumptions in this disapproval. I suggest you retract this proposal immediately.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
I dunno, it's hard to imagine anything that's been sitting on a bar stool since before I was born as being remotely attractive. But that might just be because I'm old. Well, old-ish. Michele -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark A. Matienzo Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:17 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum) On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Becky Yoose wrote: > We need a meat that is disapproved of universally. May I suggest > "pickled pig's ears that have been sitting in a jar on a bar counter > since you've been born"? There are cultural assumptions in this disapproval. I suggest you retract this proposal immediately.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
Perhaps spam spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans egg and spam? Michele -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kevin S. Clarke Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:02 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum) On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson wrote: > Alas, bologna as the seal of disapproval might fall a bit short. While one > might > jump to proffer spam in its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all > in a > bit of a quandary.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
I vote for worms. I go to the garden to eat them when nobody loves me and everybody hates me On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Becky Yoose wrote: > Chicken gizzards, when prepared right (fried), are a delicacy. While I am > not a gizzard fan, many in my immediate and extended family are, so... > > We need a meat that is disapproved of universally. May I suggest "pickled > pig's ears that have been sitting in a jar on a bar counter since you've > been born"? Adhering to RDA guidelines, I am not using abbreviations to > describe the material at hand at the bar. > > Thanks, > Becky, who consulted her family cookbook for this email. > > Chicken feet can be good as well... > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke > wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson > > wrote: > > > > >> Bacon == Seal of Approval > > >> Bologna == Seal of Disapproval > > >> Salami == Seal of No Approval Needed > > >> > > > > > > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships > > between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the > appeal > > of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its > > appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of > > disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam > in > > its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a > > quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat, > > perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn > > about one's approval or lack thereof. > > > > > > What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the > aboutness > > of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is > > strictly necessary in our mortal affairs. > > > > I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken > > livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech! And, as a vegan, I'd > > stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh. That > > seems appropriate. > > > > Fwiw... > > Kevin > > > -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@orbiscascade.org / 503.999.9787
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
Chicken gizzards, when prepared right (fried), are a delicacy. While I am not a gizzard fan, many in my immediate and extended family are, so... We need a meat that is disapproved of universally. May I suggest "pickled pig's ears that have been sitting in a jar on a bar counter since you've been born"? Adhering to RDA guidelines, I am not using abbreviations to describe the material at hand at the bar. Thanks, Becky, who consulted her family cookbook for this email. Chicken feet can be good as well... On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson > wrote: > > >> Bacon == Seal of Approval > >> Bologna == Seal of Disapproval > >> Salami == Seal of No Approval Needed > >> > > > > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships > between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal > of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its > appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of > disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in > its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a > quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat, > perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn > about one's approval or lack thereof. > > > > What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness > of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is > strictly necessary in our mortal affairs. > > I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken > livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech! And, as a vegan, I'd > stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh. That > seems appropriate. > > Fwiw... > Kevin >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
+1 Tempeh == Seal of No Approval Needed, though finding an appropriate icon may be a challenge... -- HARDY POTTINGER University of Missouri Library Systems http://lso.umsystem.edu/~pottingerhj/ https://MOspace.umsystem.edu/ "The bigger the smile you give, the bigger the smile you get. Works every time." --Alan Shapiro On 6/5/12 3:02 PM, "Kevin S. Clarke" wrote: >On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson >wrote: > >>> Bacon == Seal of Approval >>> Bologna == Seal of Disapproval >>> Salami == Seal of No Approval Needed >>> >> >> This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships >>between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the >>appeal of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in >>its appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of >>disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam >>in its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a >>quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat, >>perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn >>about one's approval or lack thereof. >> >> What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the >>aboutness of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more >>often than is strictly necessary in our mortal affairs. > >I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken >livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech! And, as a vegan, I'd >stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh. That >seems appropriate. > >Fwiw... >Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
The begs the question, what is the official Roy Tennant position on baloney vs. bologna? May I suggest a viaf-like resource for food, in which I may prefer the baloney label while allowing my data to be cross-searchable with bologna records? Is there an RDF ontology for this??? On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson > wrote: > > >> Bacon == Seal of Approval > >> Bologna == Seal of Disapproval > >> Salami == Seal of No Approval Needed > >> > > > > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships > between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal > of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its > appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of > disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in > its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a > quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat, > perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn > about one's approval or lack thereof. > > > > What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness > of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is > strictly necessary in our mortal affairs. > > I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken > livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech! And, as a vegan, I'd > stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh. That > seems appropriate. > > Fwiw... > Kevin >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson wrote: >> Bacon == Seal of Approval >> Bologna == Seal of Disapproval >> Salami == Seal of No Approval Needed >> > > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships > between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal of > the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its appeal, > that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of disapproval might > fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in its place, > Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a quandry. Olive loaf, > perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat, perhaps fois gras more > aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn about one's approval or lack > thereof. > > What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness of > meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is strictly > necessary in our mortal affairs. I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech! And, as a vegan, I'd stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh. That seems appropriate. Fwiw... Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)
Salvete! > Without asking permission of the list, I hereby assign this new category of > things requiring OCLC oversight as "salami" on the charcuterie > spectrum. > > Bacon == Seal of Approval > Bologna == Seal of Disapproval > Salami == Seal of No Approval Needed > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat, perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn about one's approval or lack thereof. What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is strictly necessary in our mortal affairs. Ox tongue in cheek, Brooke
