Re: [CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!

[MJ Ray]

Ross Singer 
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:25 AM, MJ Ray  wrote:
> > It should at least mention that (fortunately, my organisation lets me
> > enable javascript for specific sites) and ideally it should be allowed
> > to vote without it, because some libraries are really locked down.
> 
> I am skeptical of this claim.
> 
> In 2013, if organizations are disabling javascript, tremendous parts
> of the web are broken for them.

Why?  In 2013, there are still libraries without internet access for
security reasons.  Of course, when it gets that drastic, it's beyond
help for vote.code4lib, but there are also many libraries using
heavily filtered connections.

That includes shared-whitelist-based permission systems, so they may
allow (say) LinkedIn to work, but I doubt they will have heard of
code4lib, let alone added it to their institutional whitelist.

I suspect I might have seen/heard of a disproportionate number of
locked-down sites, as FOSS LMS like Koha can run stand-alone, without
phoning home or license management authorisations, and its internals
can be reviewed.

I used to try ranting against them, but really, the number of browser
exploits that didn't work if javascript was disabled makes it a tough
call.  And on phones, it often becomes a whole-system exploit, like in
http://www.phonedog.com/2010/11/29/android-browser-falls-victim-to-javascript-based-exploit/
http://crackberry.com/rim-advises-disablng-javascript-your-blackberry-browser-after-exploit-discovered
and others.

https://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2008-011517-3725-99&tabid=2
says, "Users may also consider using tools that block JavaScript from
sites not on a whitelist" and I feel that's the best approach now,
if you can.  NoScript.net for Firefox-based browsers, perhaps.

Finally, a lot of bigger websites do actually have versions which
don't require javascript, such as Twitter and Facebook - and they
provide them despite the drawbacks of not being able to invade their
users' privacy like they can with script.  Actually, one small problem
in asking people to switch to FOSS alternatives like StatusNet and
Diaspora is that they don't have non-js versions yet.

> That said, the diebold-o-tron is FLOSS
> (http://code.google.com/p/conferencekeeper/source/checkout -
> currently running from the 'diebold' branch), so patches welcome if
> you have the inclination to submit a non-js dependent version.

I've made a note of it and added it to our community TODO, but I've
not used Ruby on Rails for years so I may be some time.  How often are
votes / when's the next likely vote?

Regards,
-- 
MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/

Re: [CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!

[Ross Singer]

On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:25 AM, MJ Ray  wrote:

> dre wrote:
>> There's a sign-in button at the upper right of the voting page. This uses
>> your code4lib.org username and password (not your wiki user/pass).
>> 
>> Once you're logged in you should see the voting options.
> 
> Thanks for the email.  Now I've got a code4lib.org username, I tried
> to log in.  I had to enable javascript to get the vote site to work at all.
> It should at least mention that (fortunately, my organisation lets me
> enable javascript for specific sites) and ideally it should be allowed
> to vote without it, because some libraries are really locked down.

I am skeptical of this claim.

In 2013, if organizations are disabling javascript, tremendous parts of the web 
are broken for them.

That said, the diebold-o-tron is FLOSS 
(http://code.google.com/p/conferencekeeper/source/checkout - currently running 
from the 'diebold' branch), so patches welcome if you have the inclination to 
submit a non-js dependent version.

-Ross.
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
> http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
> In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
> Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/

Re: [CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!

[MJ Ray]

dre wrote:
> There's a sign-in button at the upper right of the voting page. This uses
> your code4lib.org username and password (not your wiki user/pass).
> 
> Once you're logged in you should see the voting options.

Thanks for the email.  Now I've got a code4lib.org username, I tried
to log in.  I had to enable javascript to get the vote site to work at all.
It should at least mention that (fortunately, my organisation lets me
enable javascript for specific sites) and ideally it should be allowed
to vote without it, because some libraries are really locked down.

Regards,
-- 
MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/

Re: [CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!

[Ahniwa Ferrari]

Great designs. I have no account and don't feel a need to vote officially,
since I won't be getting a shirt anyway. I like all of them. My strictly
unofficial vote is the "put a nerd on it". That cracks me up. :)


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Wick, Ryan wrote:

> Hi MJ,
>
> I just approved your account registration on code4lib.org. You should now
> be able to log in to both code4lib.org and vote.code4lib.org
>
> If anyone else is having account or voting login issues, please let me
> know. (ryanw...@gmail.com)
>
> Ryan Wick
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> MJ Ray
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:48 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!
>
> Tom Keays 
> > Link is broken in my email program, so here it is again, further
> corrected.
> >
> > http://vote.code4lib.org/election/25
>
> I don't see how to vote.  There's a "Show all descriptions" button that
> does nothing when clicked and 7 links that do nothing when clicked.
>
> Switching CSS off (Firefox: View: Page Style: No style) lets me see the
> designs and also a sign-in form.
>
> So I'm guessing that maybe we need to be signed in, so I've filled out the
> form at http://code4lib.org/user/register but it redisplayed the same
> form with no confirmation message after clicking the "Create new account"
> button.  But I just got email from it, so I guess it worked.
>
> I'm unsure if the list is the best place to send this, but there's no
> "help" in either site's navigation and it's somewhere to let people know
> how difficult/confusing I'm finding this vote.
>
> Thanks for any help you may offer,
> --
> MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
> http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
> In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
> Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!

[Wick, Ryan]

Hi MJ, 

I just approved your account registration on code4lib.org. You should now be 
able to log in to both code4lib.org and vote.code4lib.org

If anyone else is having account or voting login issues, please let me know. 
(ryanw...@gmail.com)

Ryan Wick



-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of MJ Ray
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:48 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!

Tom Keays 
> Link is broken in my email program, so here it is again, further corrected.
> 
> http://vote.code4lib.org/election/25

I don't see how to vote.  There's a "Show all descriptions" button that does 
nothing when clicked and 7 links that do nothing when clicked.

Switching CSS off (Firefox: View: Page Style: No style) lets me see the designs 
and also a sign-in form.

So I'm guessing that maybe we need to be signed in, so I've filled out the form 
at http://code4lib.org/user/register but it redisplayed the same form with no 
confirmation message after clicking the "Create new account" button.  But I 
just got email from it, so I guess it worked.

I'm unsure if the list is the best place to send this, but there's no "help" in 
either site's navigation and it's somewhere to let people know how 
difficult/confusing I'm finding this vote.

Thanks for any help you may offer,
--
MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/

Re: [CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!

[Andreas Orphanides]

There's a sign-in button at the upper right of the voting page. This uses
your code4lib.org username and password (not your wiki user/pass).

Once you're logged in you should see the voting options.

-dre.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:47 AM, MJ Ray  wrote:

> Tom Keays 
> > Link is broken in my email program, so here it is again, further
> corrected.
> >
> > http://vote.code4lib.org/election/25
>
> I don't see how to vote.  There's a "Show all descriptions" button
> that does nothing when clicked and 7 links that do nothing when
> clicked.
>
> Switching CSS off (Firefox: View: Page Style: No style) lets me see
> the designs and also a sign-in form.
>
> So I'm guessing that maybe we need to be signed in, so I've filled out
> the form at http://code4lib.org/user/register but it redisplayed the
> same form with no confirmation message after clicking the "Create new
> account" button.  But I just got email from it, so I guess it worked.
>
> I'm unsure if the list is the best place to send this, but there's
> no "help" in either site's navigation and it's somewhere to let people
> know how difficult/confusing I'm finding this vote.
>
> Thanks for any help you may offer,
> --
> MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
> http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
> In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
> Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!

[MJ Ray]

Tom Keays 
> Link is broken in my email program, so here it is again, further corrected.
> 
> http://vote.code4lib.org/election/25

I don't see how to vote.  There's a "Show all descriptions" button
that does nothing when clicked and 7 links that do nothing when
clicked.

Switching CSS off (Firefox: View: Page Style: No style) lets me see
the designs and also a sign-in form.

So I'm guessing that maybe we need to be signed in, so I've filled out
the form at http://code4lib.org/user/register but it redisplayed the
same form with no confirmation message after clicking the "Create new
account" button.  But I just got email from it, so I guess it worked.

I'm unsure if the list is the best place to send this, but there's
no "help" in either site's navigation and it's somewhere to let people
know how difficult/confusing I'm finding this vote.

Thanks for any help you may offer,
-- 
MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/

Re: [CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!

[Tom Keays]

Link is broken in my email program, so here it is again, further corrected.

http://vote.code4lib.org/election/25

Tom

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:

> Minor correction:
>
> The correct address for voting is
> http://vote.code4lib.org/**election/25<
> http://vote.code4lib.org/election/results/25>,
> though the address Shaun provided (http://vote.code4lib.org/**
> election/results/25 ) will
> let you cheat and sneak a peek at who's winning, if you're into that kind
> of thing.
>
> -dre.
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Shaun Ellis  wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> > The T-shirt committee is pleased to announce that voting is now open at
> > the following URL:
> >
> > http://vote.code4lib.org/**election/results/25<
> http://vote.code4lib.org/election/results/25>
> >
> > Voting will close at midnight of January 15th.  Those who are not
> > registered for the conference by January 15th are not guaranteed a shirt.
> >  If you are attending, please fill out the sizing form here so we get you
> > the right size and fit:
> > https://docs.google.com/**spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=**
> > dGoxYmVZaTJrdkVyZF9rWWVYNi1XbV**E6MQ<
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGoxYmVZaTJrdkVyZF9rWWVYNi1XbVE6MQ
> >
> >
> > A big ++ to Ross Singer for help in setting up the diebold-o-tron...
> > thanks, Ross!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > The Code4Lib 2013 T-shirt Committee
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!

[Andreas Orphanides]

Minor correction:

The correct address for voting is
http://vote.code4lib.org/**election/25,
though the address Shaun provided (http://vote.code4lib.org/**
election/results/25 ) will
let you cheat and sneak a peek at who's winning, if you're into that kind
of thing.

-dre.

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Shaun Ellis  wrote:

> Hi folks,
> The T-shirt committee is pleased to announce that voting is now open at
> the following URL:
>
> http://vote.code4lib.org/**election/results/25
>
> Voting will close at midnight of January 15th.  Those who are not
> registered for the conference by January 15th are not guaranteed a shirt.
>  If you are attending, please fill out the sizing form here so we get you
> the right size and fit:
> https://docs.google.com/**spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=**
> dGoxYmVZaTJrdkVyZF9rWWVYNi1XbV**E6MQ
>
> A big ++ to Ross Singer for help in setting up the diebold-o-tron...
> thanks, Ross!
>
> Cheers,
> The Code4Lib 2013 T-shirt Committee
>

[CODE4LIB] T-Shirt voting is now open!

[Shaun Ellis]

Hi folks,
The T-shirt committee is pleased to announce that voting is now open at 
the following URL:


http://vote.code4lib.org/election/results/25

Voting will close at midnight of January 15th.  Those who are not 
registered for the conference by January 15th are not guaranteed a 
shirt.  If you are attending, please fill out the sizing form here so we 
get you the right size and fit:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGoxYmVZaTJrdkVyZF9rWWVYNi1XbVE6MQ

A big ++ to Ross Singer for help in setting up the diebold-o-tron... 
thanks, Ross!


Cheers,
The Code4Lib 2013 T-shirt Committee