Re: [CODE4LIB] Web analytics for POST data

2009-11-24 Thread Joel Marchesoni
Hi Yitzchak,

I was just looking at this yesterday on the Google Analytics site.  It's a way 
to define custom variables at either the page, session, or visitor level:

http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/tracking/gaTrackingCustomVariables.html

Joel Marchesoni 
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Yitzchak Schaffer
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Web analytics for POST data

Alejandro Garza Gonzalez wrote:
 1) You *can* use GA and some Javascript embedded in your III pages to 
 log events (as they´re called in GA lingo). The javascript (depending 
 on your coding wizardry level) could track anything from hovers over 
 elements, form submission, next page events, etc.

Hi Alejandro,

Thanks for a great suggestion.  I tried poking around at it; it seems to 
me like Events aren't built for what I'm really interested in doing, 
namely systematic exploration and analysis of the search sessions.  IOW, 
let's say a form looks like

t=finn
a=twain
l=circ,reserve

It looks like I could log this as three separate events, or one; but 
either way, how would one analyze this?  I'm not interested (solely) in 
how many times this particular query was entered.

I started looking at ways to funnel the params into my own tracking 
script, the prototype of which just writes a line to a text file with a 
JSON serialization of the form data; but I'm not a JS ninja, so I'm 
still trying to figure out how to get around the XSS problems.

Ruddy III turnkey...

-- 
Yitzchak Schaffer
Systems Manager
Touro College Libraries
33 West 23rd Street
New York, NY 10010
Tel (212) 463-0400 x5230
Fax (212) 627-3197
Email yitzchak.schaf...@tourolib.org


Re: [CODE4LIB] Web analytics for POST data

2009-11-24 Thread Alejandro Garza Gonzalez
To get around XSS you can use GET requests to your logging script, 
sending the data as arguments by one of two methods (maybe there are 
others?):


   * one way is to just get an Image by setting an image's SRC to
 your logging script.
   * another is to have an inline IFRAME where you also change its SRC
 to your logging script's URL.

You might have to have some built-in delay to let the logging script 
have time to actually log the event before the form gets submitted... 
I'm thinking using setTimeout() in javascript.


_alejandro

Yitzchak Schaffer said the following on 23/11/2009 06:01 p.m.:

Alejandro Garza Gonzalez wrote:
1) You *can* use GA and some Javascript embedded in your III pages to 
log events (as they´re called in GA lingo). The javascript 
(depending on your coding wizardry level) could track anything from 
hovers over elements, form submission, next page events, etc.


Hi Alejandro,

Thanks for a great suggestion.  I tried poking around at it; it seems 
to me like Events aren't built for what I'm really interested in 
doing, namely systematic exploration and analysis of the search 
sessions.  IOW, let's say a form looks like


t=finn
a=twain
l=circ,reserve

It looks like I could log this as three separate events, or one; but 
either way, how would one analyze this?  I'm not interested (solely) 
in how many times this particular query was entered.


I started looking at ways to funnel the params into my own tracking 
script, the prototype of which just writes a line to a text file with 
a JSON serialization of the form data; but I'm not a JS ninja, so I'm 
still trying to figure out how to get around the XSS problems.


Ruddy III turnkey...



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Re: [CODE4LIB] Web analytics for POST data

2009-11-23 Thread Yitzchak Schaffer

Alejandro Garza Gonzalez wrote:
1) You *can* use GA and some Javascript embedded in your III pages to 
log events (as they´re called in GA lingo). The javascript (depending 
on your coding wizardry level) could track anything from hovers over 
elements, form submission, next page events, etc.


Hi Alejandro,

Thanks for a great suggestion.  I tried poking around at it; it seems to 
me like Events aren't built for what I'm really interested in doing, 
namely systematic exploration and analysis of the search sessions.  IOW, 
let's say a form looks like


t=finn
a=twain
l=circ,reserve

It looks like I could log this as three separate events, or one; but 
either way, how would one analyze this?  I'm not interested (solely) in 
how many times this particular query was entered.


I started looking at ways to funnel the params into my own tracking 
script, the prototype of which just writes a line to a text file with a 
JSON serialization of the form data; but I'm not a JS ninja, so I'm 
still trying to figure out how to get around the XSS problems.


Ruddy III turnkey...

--
Yitzchak Schaffer
Systems Manager
Touro College Libraries
33 West 23rd Street
New York, NY 10010
Tel (212) 463-0400 x5230
Fax (212) 627-3197
Email yitzchak.schaf...@tourolib.org


Re: [CODE4LIB] Web analytics for POST data

2009-11-20 Thread Alejandro Garza Gonzalez

I see two ways to do this:

1) You *can* use GA and some Javascript embedded in your III pages to 
log events (as they´re called in GA lingo). The javascript (depending 
on your coding wizardry level) could track anything from hovers over 
elements, form submission, next page events, etc.


2) Move all or part of your catalog traffic thru a reverse proxy which 
does the actual tracking. Of course, finding the proxy software is one 
thing, finding one that analyzes the specific requests or patterns is 
another =) More likely you would have to find an OSS proxy then modify 
it to do what you want =)


I'd go with GA first =) By the way, I've done a bit of snooping around 
this area, you can email me if you need help =)


_alejandro


Yitzchak Schaffer said the following on 19/11/2009 11:34 p.m.:

Hello coders,

I'm looking at tracking our III OPAC usage via a Google Analytics-like 
tool.  As far as I can tell, GA itself doesn't track POST data for 
privacy reasons.  Anyone here know of something for this?  I found an 
open-source GA-like, on-your-own-server PHP project called Piwik 
[http://piwik.org] which I imagine does this, or could be modified 
easily enough.




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Tecnológico de Monterrey

Tel. +52 [81] 8358.2000, Ext. 6751
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uso exclusivo del destinatario, por lo que no podrá distribuirse y/o 
difundirse por ningún medio sin la previa autorización del emisor 
original. Si usted no es el destinatario, se le prohíbe su utilización 
total o parcial para cualquier fin.


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[CODE4LIB] Web analytics for POST data

2009-11-19 Thread Yitzchak Schaffer

Hello coders,

I'm looking at tracking our III OPAC usage via a Google Analytics-like 
tool.  As far as I can tell, GA itself doesn't track POST data for 
privacy reasons.  Anyone here know of something for this?  I found an 
open-source GA-like, on-your-own-server PHP project called Piwik 
[http://piwik.org] which I imagine does this, or could be modified 
easily enough.


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Yitzchak Schaffer
Systems Manager
Touro College Libraries
33 West 23rd Street
New York, NY 10010
Tel (212) 463-0400 x5230
Fax (212) 627-3197
Email yitzchak.schaf...@tourolib.org