Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-11-03 Thread Devon
This thread is old, but I've just realized a benefit to already having a lot of unix experience under my belt. I'm taking some online courses and the first week of each course is essentially bringing the Windows and Mac users up to speed. This is a working directory, this is the command line,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-28 Thread Joshua Welker
Chocolatey suite.) Josh Welker -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Siobhain Rivera Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:02 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix? Hi everyone, I'm part of the ASIST Student Chapter

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-28 Thread Siobhain Rivera
Hi Everyone, Thanks for the friendly and helpful comments. I really appreciate the information, and I will check out the linked articles. If you come up with anything else, I'd love to hear about it. Siobhain Rivera Indiana University Bloomington Library Science, Digital Libraries Specialization

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-28 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Joshua Welker wrote: There are 2 reasons I have learned/am learning Linux: 1. It is cheaper as a web hosting platform. Not substantially, but enough to make a difference. This is a big deal when you are a library with a barebones budget or an indie developer (I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-28 Thread Conal Tuohy
I would recommend learning Linux because it is the key platform for open source software in general, and librarians need to embrace open source in order to take control over their library systems, in order to deliver to their users what they actually need, rather than what can be delivered within

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-28 Thread Francis Kayiwa
On 10/27/2014 10:02 AM, Siobhain Rivera wrote: Hi everyone, I'm part of the ASIST Student Chapter and Indiana University, and we're putting together a series of workshops on Unix. We've noticed that a lot of people don't seem to have a good idea of why they should learn Unix, particularly the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-28 Thread Charles Blair
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:02:18AM -0400, Siobhain Rivera wrote: I'm part of the ASIST Student Chapter and Indiana University, and we're putting together a series of workshops on Unix. We've noticed that a lot of people don't seem to have a good idea of why they should learn Unix, particularly

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-28 Thread Cornel Darden Jr.
Hello, Well said Conal. I can't believe that an army of over 100,000 librarians continue to purchase closed ILSs and other software that limits how we serve our patrons yet have the nerve to complain about dwindling library budgets and even the nerve to refer to ourselves as information

[CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Siobhain Rivera
Hi everyone, I'm part of the ASIST Student Chapter and Indiana University, and we're putting together a series of workshops on Unix. We've noticed that a lot of people don't seem to have a good idea of why they should learn Unix, particularly the reference/non technology types. We're going to do

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
Learning Unix is not necessarily the problem to solve. Instead it is means to an end. To my mind, there are number of skills and technologies a person needs to know in order to provide (digital) library service. Some of those skills/technologies include: indexing, content management

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Edward Iglesias
Couldn't agree more with Eric. Additionally if you are going to be doing any web work at all you will need to know the back end environment which will likely be Linux. Edward Iglesias On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: Learning Unix is not necessarily

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Matthew Sherman
Eric hit the nail on the head, Unix is not inherently needed for many libraries, but it can be useful for more technically inclined librarians to know Linux. I am a digital content librarian at my institution and I actually know neither system, though I wish I had a better understanding of Linux.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Dave Caroline
On 27/10/2014, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.com wrote: Eric hit the nail on the head, Unix is not inherently needed for many libraries, but it can be useful for more technically inclined librarians to know Linux. I am a digital content librarian at my institution and I actually know

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Dave Caroline
oops, ignore the accidental blank but anyway, Linux/unix have a nicer idea of permissions and security so often you get better uptimes, less need for reboots. You can serve apache etc on other OSs but often not all modules are ported to the less popular serving platforms. Dave Caroline On

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Cornel Darden Jr.
Hello, I think that all library jobs are and ought to be techy. If they aren't is because the person's working those jobs aren't practicing modern librarianship. In think the culture of librarianship is at fault as opposed to the individual librarians. When it comes to Unix, I'm assuming

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Cary Gordon
It really depends on what you mean by learn Unix. I agree with Eric that many tools, particularly open source tools, are more robust on l Linux. This is because most of their development communities are building on Linux, so new features and bug fixes show up their first. I live in the open

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Andrew Anderson
There is something of a natural symbiosis between *NIX and libraries. If you have not already found it, read Unix as Literature for some background on why those who like the written word are drawn to *NIX naturally. -- Andrew Anderson, Director of Development, Library and Information

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Tod Olson
There’s also something to be said for the Unix pipeline/filter model of processing. That way of breaking down a task into small steps, wiring little programs to filter the data for each step, building up the solution iteratively, essentially a form of function composition. Immedidately, you can

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread danielle plumer
Siobhan, I teach a course on digital curation tools and applications for the University of North Texas, and one of the motivational pieces I use is the Digital Curation Centre's chapter on Open Source and Digital Curation by Andrew McHugh in the Digital Curation Manual (2005):

[CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix? and DOS?

2014-10-27 Thread Jacobs, Jane W
for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cornel Darden Jr. Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 10:51 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix? Hello, I think that all library jobs are and ought to be techy. If they aren't is because the person's

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Cornel Darden Jr.
Hello, A reference librarian solves information problems. If I ask an average librarian how to rip a video, how to convert file formats and videos, or why my files and videos aren't playing; should they be able to help? That's the real question. Should reference librarians know how to create

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread danielle plumer
A few other readings I use on *nix: - Powers, E. (2012). Why I learned to love the command line. Hack Library School: By, For, and About Library School Students. http://hacklibschool.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/why-i-learned-to-love-the-command-line/ - Stephenson, Neal. (1999). In the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Bigwood, David
Learning UNIX is fine. However, I do think learning SQL might be a better investment. So many of our resources are in databases. Understanding indexing, sorting and relevancy ranking of our databases is also crucial. With linked data being all the rage knowing about sparql endpoints is

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Oct 27, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Siobhain Rivera siori...@indiana.edu wrote: what do you think are reasons librarians need to know Unix, even if they aren't in particularly tech heavy jobs? The best reason is so that you can understand the problems you're working with as well as

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Anthony Cocciolo
Hi Siobhain, I have a discussion of why learn UNIX in this Code4Lib journal article I wrote a few months back: Unix Commands and Batch Processing for the Reluctant Librarian or Archivist http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/9158 Best, Anthony Cocciolo -- Anthony Cocciolo, Ed.D. Associate

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Oct 27, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Bigwood, David wrote: Learning UNIX is fine. However, I do think learning SQL might be a better investment. So many of our resources are in databases. Understanding indexing, sorting and relevancy ranking of our databases is also crucial. With linked data

Re: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix?

2014-10-27 Thread Stuart Yeates
for Libraries CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU on behalf of Siobhain Rivera siori...@indiana.edu Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2014 3:02 a.m. To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Why learn Unix? Hi everyone, I'm part of the ASIST Student Chapter and Indiana University, and we're putting together a series