[CODE4LIB] anyone know how to properly do a marc4j release?
I am a committer, but I have no idea how to do a marc4j release. There are some fixes in master repo for marc4j. I can find all the parts of the source code that seem to have a version number and change them. I can make a git tag with the version number. But what else is entailed, how do people actually get marc4j? I need to update maven repo somehow or something? Anyone?
Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone know how to properly do a marc4j release?
I believe that is one of the open issues for Marc4j. I do not know how to push a jar or a new version of a jar to a Maven repo. I believe Bill Dueber was looking into this just last month when he wrote the following to the Solrmarc list: I'm trying to get marc4j into maven central, and I don't know who owns the domain. If it's one of us, then we can use it. If not, well, I'm not sure what we do (except maybe use the github location?) -- Bill Dueber Library Systems Programmer University of Michigan Library The last release I did was to merely create the jar in the releases sub-directory, and reference it in the README.textile file. That emulates the way the releases had been done from the tigris.org site, but its not the right way to do a release. -Bob Haschart On 11/13/2013 4:43 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I am a committer, but I have no idea how to do a marc4j release. There are some fixes in master repo for marc4j. I can find all the parts of the source code that seem to have a version number and change them. I can make a git tag with the version number. But what else is entailed, how do people actually get marc4j? I need to update maven repo somehow or something? Anyone?
Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone know how to properly do a marc4j release?
I have experience pushing projects into Maven's central repo through Sonatype. Maven has a standard structure (that you don't have to use, but it makes things easier/more-Maven-ish). Would you want the project reorganized into that structure in the process? Kevin On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Robert Haschart rh...@virginia.edu wrote: I believe that is one of the open issues for Marc4j. I do not know how to push a jar or a new version of a jar to a Maven repo. I believe Bill Dueber was looking into this just last month when he wrote the following to the Solrmarc list: I'm trying to get marc4j into maven central, and I don't know who owns the domain. If it's one of us, then we can use it. If not, well, I'm not sure what we do (except maybe use the github location?) --Bill Dueber Library Systems Programmer University of Michigan Library The last release I did was to merely create the jar in the releases sub-directory, and reference it in the README.textile file. That emulates the way the releases had been done from the tigris.org site, but its not the right way to do a release. -Bob Haschart On 11/13/2013 4:43 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I am a committer, but I have no idea how to do a marc4j release. There are some fixes in master repo for marc4j. I can find all the parts of the source code that seem to have a version number and change them. I can make a git tag with the version number. But what else is entailed, how do people actually get marc4j? I need to update maven repo somehow or something? Anyone?
Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone know how to properly do a marc4j release?
Hi, I don't know the details of marc4J, but I do know that the Maven Release Plugin is very very handy for doing Maven releases: http://maven.apache.org/maven-release/maven-release-plugin/ -- HARDY POTTINGER pottinge...@umsystem.edu University of Missouri Library Systems http://lso.umsystem.edu/~pottingerhj/ https://MOspace.umsystem.edu/ Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly impossible. --Edwin Land On 11/13/13 4:23 PM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote: I have experience pushing projects into Maven's central repo through Sonatype. Maven has a standard structure (that you don't have to use, but it makes things easier/more-Maven-ish). Would you want the project reorganized into that structure in the process? Kevin On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Robert Haschart rh...@virginia.edu wrote: I believe that is one of the open issues for Marc4j. I do not know how to push a jar or a new version of a jar to a Maven repo. I believe Bill Dueber was looking into this just last month when he wrote the following to the Solrmarc list: I'm trying to get marc4j into maven central, and I don't know who owns the domain. If it's one of us, then we can use it. If not, well, I'm not sure what we do (except maybe use the github location?) --Bill Dueber Library Systems Programmer University of Michigan Library The last release I did was to merely create the jar in the releases sub-directory, and reference it in the README.textile file. That emulates the way the releases had been done from the tigris.org site, but its not the right way to do a release. -Bob Haschart On 11/13/2013 4:43 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I am a committer, but I have no idea how to do a marc4j release. There are some fixes in master repo for marc4j. I can find all the parts of the source code that seem to have a version number and change them. I can make a git tag with the version number. But what else is entailed, how do people actually get marc4j? I need to update maven repo somehow or something? Anyone?
Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone know how to properly do a marc4j release?
Okay, thanks Bob. I guess for the moment I might just keep using Marc4J by building it myself from master without doing an official release. I think that's probably better than halfway doing a release, like tagging it in the repo with a release tag, but without doing a proper maven release, just confusing everyone. If anyone wants to take on a bit of release management for Marc4J -- sounds like we could use you! Ie, figuring out how to do it, documenting it in the marc4j repo, making any changes to Marc4J source repo to make it easier, etc. Tod Olsen tells me another part of this puzzle is making sure the javadocs get re-generated (to where? I have no idea!) Anyone want to help? A bunch of people use marc4j, often through downstream dependencies, you'd have many thanks! Jonathan On 11/13/13 5:15 PM, Robert Haschart wrote: I believe that is one of the open issues for Marc4j. I do not know how to push a jar or a new version of a jar to a Maven repo. I believe Bill Dueber was looking into this just last month when he wrote the following to the Solrmarc list: I'm trying to get marc4j into maven central, and I don't know who owns the domain. If it's one of us, then we can use it. If not, well, I'm not sure what we do (except maybe use the github location?) -- Bill Dueber Library Systems Programmer University of Michigan Library The last release I did was to merely create the jar in the releases sub-directory, and reference it in the README.textile file. That emulates the way the releases had been done from the tigris.org site, but its not the right way to do a release. -Bob Haschart On 11/13/2013 4:43 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I am a committer, but I have no idea how to do a marc4j release. There are some fixes in master repo for marc4j. I can find all the parts of the source code that seem to have a version number and change them. I can make a git tag with the version number. But what else is entailed, how do people actually get marc4j? I need to update maven repo somehow or something? Anyone?
Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone know how to properly do a marc4j release?
Aha, Kevin! I'm not sure, would we? Is that your advice? Do you have any interest in taking this on? There's possibly no current marc4j committers who understand how it's set up now, it's kind of just grown under various people's stewardship, I think it's possible nobody has strong opinions as long as it works and doens't make marc4j any harder to work with for developers. (If someone _does_ have understanding and/or strong feelings about how marc4j source code is set up (maybe Bob?) then definitely correct me! And maybe work with Kevin on figuring out how to do a release?) Otherwise, Kevin, you interested in getting committer privs and figuring out what needs to be done? On 11/13/13 5:23 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: I have experience pushing projects into Maven's central repo through Sonatype. Maven has a standard structure (that you don't have to use, but it makes things easier/more-Maven-ish). Would you want the project reorganized into that structure in the process? Kevin On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Robert Haschart rh...@virginia.edu wrote: I believe that is one of the open issues for Marc4j. I do not know how to push a jar or a new version of a jar to a Maven repo. I believe Bill Dueber was looking into this just last month when he wrote the following to the Solrmarc list: I'm trying to get marc4j into maven central, and I don't know who owns the domain. If it's one of us, then we can use it. If not, well, I'm not sure what we do (except maybe use the github location?) --Bill Dueber Library Systems Programmer University of Michigan Library The last release I did was to merely create the jar in the releases sub-directory, and reference it in the README.textile file. That emulates the way the releases had been done from the tigris.org site, but its not the right way to do a release. -Bob Haschart On 11/13/2013 4:43 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I am a committer, but I have no idea how to do a marc4j release. There are some fixes in master repo for marc4j. I can find all the parts of the source code that seem to have a version number and change them. I can make a git tag with the version number. But what else is entailed, how do people actually get marc4j? I need to update maven repo somehow or something? Anyone?
Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone know how to properly do a marc4j release?
If you mean re-organize the project so that it corresponds to Maven's conventions for doing things, and then relying on Maven to handle dependencies and build of the project, no thank you. My experience with Maven is that it can make things that are already easy, a little bit easier, after a fair bit of work, but things that are outside its way of looking at the world become much more cumbersome. For instance because building Marc4j requires compiling some of the code, and then using that code to generate a couple of source files, and then compiling those generated files, and then bundling both sets of class files to produce the jar, it seemed that to Maven-ify the project would require splitting it into to separate projects with complicated dependencies between them. If there is any way you can help with getting releases of Marc4j into the central Maven repo that would not require going all in with Maven it would be greatly appreciated. -Bob Haschart On 11/13/2013 5:52 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Aha, Kevin! I'm not sure, would we? Is that your advice? Do you have any interest in taking this on? There's possibly no current marc4j committers who understand how it's set up now, it's kind of just grown under various people's stewardship, I think it's possible nobody has strong opinions as long as it works and doens't make marc4j any harder to work with for developers. (If someone _does_ have understanding and/or strong feelings about how marc4j source code is set up (maybe Bob?) then definitely correct me! And maybe work with Kevin on figuring out how to do a release?) Otherwise, Kevin, you interested in getting committer privs and figuring out what needs to be done? On 11/13/13 5:23 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: I have experience pushing projects into Maven's central repo through Sonatype. Maven has a standard structure (that you don't have to use, but it makes things easier/more-Maven-ish). Would you want the project reorganized into that structure in the process? Kevin On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Robert Haschart rh...@virginia.edu wrote: I believe that is one of the open issues for Marc4j. I do not know how to push a jar or a new version of a jar to a Maven repo. I believe Bill Dueber was looking into this just last month when he wrote the following to the Solrmarc list: I'm trying to get marc4j into maven central, and I don't know who owns the domain. If it's one of us, then we can use it. If not, well, I'm not sure what we do (except maybe use the github location?) --Bill Dueber Library Systems Programmer University of Michigan Library The last release I did was to merely create the jar in the releases sub-directory, and reference it in the README.textile file. That emulates the way the releases had been done from the tigris.org site, but its not the right way to do a release. -Bob Haschart On 11/13/2013 4:43 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I am a committer, but I have no idea how to do a marc4j release. There are some fixes in master repo for marc4j. I can find all the parts of the source code that seem to have a version number and change them. I can make a git tag with the version number. But what else is entailed, how do people actually get marc4j? I need to update maven repo somehow or something? Anyone?
Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone know how to properly do a marc4j release?
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Robert Haschart rh...@virginia.edu wrote: If you mean re-organize the project so that it corresponds to Maven's conventions for doing things, and then relying on Maven to handle dependencies and build of the project, no thank you. Yes, that's what I meant. For instance because building Marc4j requires compiling some of the code, and then using that code to generate a couple of source files, and then compiling those generated files, and then bundling both sets of class files to produce the jar, it seemed that to Maven-ify the project would require splitting it into to separate projects with complicated dependencies between them. Not necessarily. Is this process represented in the Ant build file currently or are there some docs for it? I'm not an active MARC4J user so not aware of the process. What I might do is Mavenize it (in my own fork) just for fun. If what I do looks more complicated to you, no problem... I will have had my fun and I won't mind it not being picked up. If there is any way you can help with getting releases of Marc4j into the central Maven repo that would not require going all in with Maven it would be greatly appreciated. I'm sure there is a way to do that, but I'm probably not your guy for that. I agree there is a fair amount of work to see things Maven's way but, once you do, straying from that worldview takes more effort. Someone else will probably be better suited than me to take that other path. Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone know how to properly do a marc4j release?
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: I'm not sure, would we? Is that your advice? That would be my advice, yes, but I understand Robert's perspective. People have strong feelings one way or the other about Maven. Otherwise, Kevin, you interested in getting committer privs and figuring out what needs to be done? Maybe I should just tinker in my own fork of it for a bit and see what comes from it... I'll need to understand the workflow Robert is describing a bit more. Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone know how to properly do a marc4j release?
I brought marc4j under ivy; I haven't bothered with the maven artifact generation tasks, but that would be the way to go. On Nov 13, 2013 6:16 PM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Robert Haschart rh...@virginia.edu wrote: If you mean re-organize the project so that it corresponds to Maven's conventions for doing things, and then relying on Maven to handle dependencies and build of the project, no thank you. Yes, that's what I meant. For instance because building Marc4j requires compiling some of the code, and then using that code to generate a couple of source files, and then compiling those generated files, and then bundling both sets of class files to produce the jar, it seemed that to Maven-ify the project would require splitting it into to separate projects with complicated dependencies between them. Not necessarily. Is this process represented in the Ant build file currently or are there some docs for it? I'm not an active MARC4J user so not aware of the process. What I might do is Mavenize it (in my own fork) just for fun. If what I do looks more complicated to you, no problem... I will have had my fun and I won't mind it not being picked up. If there is any way you can help with getting releases of Marc4j into the central Maven repo that would not require going all in with Maven it would be greatly appreciated. I'm sure there is a way to do that, but I'm probably not your guy for that. I agree there is a fair amount of work to see things Maven's way but, once you do, straying from that worldview takes more effort. Someone else will probably be better suited than me to take that other path. Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone know how to properly do a marc4j release?
That would be super awesome if you wanted to do that, and see if you can come up with something that Bob is okay with, but makes it possible for us to actually do releases to maven, so people expecting to find releases there can find them there. I'm not sure I, or any of the other committers but Bob, understand any of that workflow either. I know that right now it is (thankfully) in a state where you can use ant to succesfully build it to a .jar, and use ant to run tests. Hooray. But yeah, there are, I had noticed, some generated .java files that are not in the source repo, but are in fact generated by the build process. On 11/13/13 6:21 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu mailto:rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: I'm not sure, would we? Is that your advice? That would be my advice, yes, but I understand Robert's perspective. People have strong feelings one way or the other about Maven. Otherwise, Kevin, you interested in getting committer privs and figuring out what needs to be done? Maybe I should just tinker in my own fork of it for a bit and see what comes from it... I'll need to understand the workflow Robert is describing a bit more. Kevin
