Re: [CODE4LIB] in step with disclosing our ideas to OCLC Inc.

2011-10-18 Thread MJ Ray
"Frumkin, Jeremy" 
> So, I would like to chime in here that this list is primarily
> focused on coding and technical issues. While everyone is entitled
> to their opinion on OCLC or any subject for that matter, in my
> opinion this thread really isn't pertinent to the focus of this
> discussion list.

Sorry.  I forgot CODE4LIB overrides the reply commands (both reply and
reply-to-list go to the list).  However, maybe some OCLC members
could get opening the tech discussed at that meeting too.

If anyone would like an explanation of the co-op difference,
please mail me off-list!

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Re: [CODE4LIB] in step with disclosing our ideas to OCLC Inc.

2011-10-18 Thread Frumkin, Jeremy
So, I would like to chime in here that this list is primarily focused on coding 
and technical issues. While everyone is entitled to their opinion on OCLC or 
any subject for that matter, in my opinion this thread really isn't pertinent 
to the focus of this discussion list. 

-- jaf

Sent from my mobile phone

On Oct 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM, "Ya'aqov Ziso"  wrote:

> *Tee-hee!  Now that's a bit different: OCLC is at least theoretically governed
> by the libraries that use it ... only a few OCLC members get to exercise
> full democratic power ... **BUT the input of the councils and the membership
> is on the agenda for the upcoming global council meeting next month
> http://www.oclc.org/uk/en/councils/global/meetings/default.htm **so do you
> think something that might be about to change? *
> **
> I know of nothing that distinguishes the OCLC Inc. (labor, hiring/firing,
> taxing, and bonus practices) from other corporations. Do you think the
> November Global Council Meeting will change those practices?
> 
> The decoy is we don't get to talk to their bonus people; we get to talk to
> dear, most helpful, leaders in our industry, friends hard working for OCLC.
> But if any of our ideas turns profitable, then who gets the margin and the
> return?
> 
> The bonus people don't talk back to us. They won't answer these questions.


[CODE4LIB] in step with disclosing our ideas to OCLC Inc.

2011-10-18 Thread Ya'aqov Ziso
*Tee-hee!  Now that's a bit different: OCLC is at least theoretically governed
by the libraries that use it ... only a few OCLC members get to exercise
full democratic power ... **BUT the input of the councils and the membership
is on the agenda for the upcoming global council meeting next month
http://www.oclc.org/uk/en/councils/global/meetings/default.htm **so do you
think something that might be about to change? *
**
I know of nothing that distinguishes the OCLC Inc. (labor, hiring/firing,
taxing, and bonus practices) from other corporations. Do you think the
November Global Council Meeting will change those practices?

The decoy is we don't get to talk to their bonus people; we get to talk to
dear, most helpful, leaders in our industry, friends hard working for OCLC.
But if any of our ideas turns profitable, then who gets the margin and the
return?

The bonus people don't talk back to us. They won't answer these questions.