Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-27 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 17:04, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: Can somebody say MARCXML or MODS complete with a schema? Well, we can say it, and I think we *have* said it for a very long time, but it doesn't seem to change anything. Damn those words. Such solutions offer at least

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc (fwd)

2009-01-27 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 17:09, Ardie Bausenbach a...@loc.gov wrote: Since that time, many other national libraries have moved from their national formats to MARC 21, including (among others), the UK, Germany, Finland, and Spain. I know a few more, but another point worth, er, screaming about,

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-27 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Alexander Johannesen wrote: I would say a little bit more than oh well (but I don't really have; you know how I feel :), but I would love to hear what the vendors are thinking about this all. They seem to very, very quiet about it all (without speculating to why ...) Because their customers

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-27 Thread Kyle Banerjee
So, um, could librarians everywhere start being just a tad bit more demanding about this stuff? You know, before your profession becomes obsoleted from this planet? The basic problem is that the real value of a catalog is its consistency, and the legacy data in these fields is already too

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-27 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 18:56, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com wrote: There are arguments to do so, but the business case is not strong. Well, I'd say the future of the library world is a good business case, and I know several people (high and low) fully aware of it, but I think it's hard

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-27 Thread Gabriel Farrell
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:50:41AM -0800, Karen Coyle wrote: I am less optimistic about MODS than Kyle. Having watched it be made, I think it's more than just a bit of a kludge, and carries forward a lot of the problems of MARC21. I also don't think that it has a strong model or

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-27 Thread Riley, Jenn
I am less optimistic about MODS than Kyle. Having watched it be made, I think it's more than just a bit of a kludge, and carries forward a lot of the problems of MARC21. I also don't think that it has a strong model or philosophy behind it. I think we can do much, much better. I agree

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-23 Thread Till Kinstler
Ya'aqov Ziso schrieb: MAB German MARC Just to note that: MAB is (unfortunately) not a German MARC, it is structurally and semantically totally different from any MARC dialect. So it is really hard to work with MAB data, because all the nice open source tools for processing bibliographic

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-23 Thread Brown, Alan
At 22 January 2009 16:28 Eric Lease Morgan wrote: Does anybody here know the difference between MARC21 and USMARC? I am munging sets of MARC bibliographic data from a III catalog with holdings data from the same. I am using MARC::Batch to read my bib' data (with both strict and warnings

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-23 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On 1/23/09 4:39 AM, Brown, Alan a.br...@bury.gov.uk wrote: Does anybody here know the difference between MARC21 and USMARC? I am munging sets of MARC bibliographic data from a III catalog with holdings data from the same. I am using MARC::Batch to read my bib' data (with both strict and

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-23 Thread Tod Olson
On Jan 23, 2009, at 5:52 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: On 1/23/09 4:39 AM, Brown, Alan a.br...@bury.gov.uk wrote: Does anybody here know the difference between MARC21 and USMARC? I am munging sets of MARC bibliographic data from a III catalog with holdings data from the same. I am using

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-23 Thread Mark Jordan
- Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: A US-MARC/MARC21 record can actually be in MARC-8 encoding OR in UTF-8, and there is actually a field (fixed field I think) to declare which encoding is used. leader pos 09 Mark

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-23 Thread Kyle Banerjee
Actually, I believe I am suffering from a number of different types of errors in my MARC data: 1) encoding issues (MARC8 versus UTF-8), 2) syntactical errors (lack of periods, invalid choices of indicators, etc.), 3) incorrect data types (strings entered into fields denoted for integers,

[CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-22 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
Does anybody here know the difference between MARC21 and USMARC? I am munging sets of MARC bibliographic data from a III catalog with holdings data from the same. I am using MARC::Batch to read my bib' data (with both strict and warnings turned off), insert 853 and 863 fields, and writing the

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-22 Thread Ya'aqov Ziso
see YZ below: Does anybody here know the difference between MARC21 and USMARC? for all intensive purposes they are synonimous (USMARC at its 21 iteration is MARC21) Apparently we need to tell Primo that my data is one of the following formats: MARC21 YZ it¹s this! MAB German MARC DANMARC2

Re: [CODE4LIB] marc21 and usmarc

2009-01-22 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On 1/22/09 11:45 AM, Bryan Baldus bryan.bal...@quality-books.com wrote: (Alternatively, maybe instead I need to turn strict and warning on and filter out any bad records. Hmmm... ) That would be recommended. I've have a .pl, rawanddecodedscan [1], that reads a file of raw MARC and reports