[CODE4LIB] points of failure (was Re: [CODE4LIB] resolution and identification )

2009-04-02 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Isn't there always a single point of failure if you are expecting to be able to resolve an http URI via the HTTP protocol? Whether it's purl.org or not, there's always a single point of failure on a given http URI that you expect to resolve via HTTP, the entity operating the web server at the

Re: [CODE4LIB] points of failure (was Re: [CODE4LIB] resolution and identification )

2009-04-02 Thread Erik Hetzner
At Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:34:12 -0400, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: […] I think too much of this conversation is about people's ideal vision of how things _could_ work, rather than trying to make things work as best as we can in the _actual world we live in_, _as well as_ planning for the future

Re: [CODE4LIB] points of failure (was Re: [CODE4LIB] resolution and identification )

2009-04-02 Thread Mike Taylor
I keep telling myself I'm going to stop posting on this thread, but ... Erik Hetzner writes: Could somebody explain to me the way in which this identifier: http://suphoa5d.org/phae4ohg does not work *as an identifier*, absent any way of getting information about the referent, in a

Re: [CODE4LIB] points of failure (was Re: [CODE4LIB] resolution and identification )

2009-04-02 Thread Erik Hetzner
Erik Hetzner writes: Could somebody explain to me the way in which this identifier: http://suphoa5d.org/phae4ohg does not work *as an identifier*, absent any way of getting information about the referent, in a way that: info:doi/10.10.1126/science.298.5598.1569 does work? A quick

Re: [CODE4LIB] points of failure (was Re: [CODE4LIB] resolution and identification )

2009-04-02 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:44, Mike Taylor m...@indexdata.com wrote:  Going back to someone's point about living in the real world (sorry, I forget who), the Inconvenient Truth is that 90% of programs and 99% of users, on seeing an http: URL, will try to treat it as a link.  They don't know any

Re: [CODE4LIB] points of failure (was Re: [CODE4LIB] resolution and identification )

2009-04-02 Thread Karen Coyle
Mike Taylor wrote: Going back to someone's point about living in the real world (sorry, I forget who), the Inconvenient Truth is that 90% of programs and 99% of users, on seeing an http: URL, will try to treat it as a link. They don't know any better. And they can't know any better because