Re: [CODE4LIB] [EXTERNAL] [CODE4LIB] Laptop loans - seeking information

2023-10-03 Thread Jeffrey Sabol
s users as a local admin Management: both: Windows Defender,
> >>> GoToAssist, nessus, Carbon Black. 24 hour: add smart shield.  Anything
> >>> saved on hard drive is lost upon reboot, ALL data must be saved on USB
> >>> or OneDrive, google drive, etc
> >>>
> >>> Processes and time spent when a laptop is returned Semester: machine
> >>> put in pile for systems.  Systems re-images with default system image,
> >>> then returns to available use pile for access services 24 hour:
> >>> Reboot, check for physical damage, if damage leave for systems
> >>> department review.  Otherwise, return to available pile
> >>>
> >>> Loan rules / circulation / fines and fees Semester: request queue
> >>> starts 4 weeks before semester starts. Simple web form and database,
> >>> used to track between access and systems Used to track how many
> >>> available, when user will be coming in to pick up, how many on standby
> >>> users (if no one picks up, they get their chance) Ends 1 week after
> >>> semester ends. MUST request anew EACH semester. VERY popular program,
> >>> regularly run out of these before semester starts
> >>>
> >>> 24 hour:
> >>> Ask at circ desk, get laptop/charger/bag if available
> >>> Return within 24 hours
> >>>
> >>> Not sure of fines/fees.  If an extended duration, then been a few
> >>> cases where police get involved as potential theft due to policies
> >>> above the library.
> >>>
> >>> Partnerships with other departments / role of Library / role of IT
> >>> Coordinated a bit from campus IT, especially helping with custom
> >>> designed image for reimaging quickly Library primary IT, but primary
> >>> use support is via campus IT Library 100% in charge of distribution
> >>> and maintenance
> >>>
> >>> Number of computers vs. patron population / % of laptops checked out /
> > #
> >> of
> >>> lost or damaged computers I believe our current student population is
> >>> approximately 35k this year. Semester laptops available I believe (but
> >>> not sure), about 250.  ALL get taken, every semester Not sure how many
> >>> in pool of 24 hour laptops Usually maybe 5 truly damaged machines
> >>> requiring true repair over the case of a full year. Many more turned
> >>> in as "not working" and found a quick reimage or reboot solves the
> >>> issue, and able to be reissued.
> >>>
> >>> Success stories. VERY popular.  Popular with head of library, popular
> >>> with Provost, popular with student body. Earned us a LOT of good will.
> >>>
> >>> Anything else?
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries
> >>>  On Behalf Of Kucera, Ann F Sent: Tuesday,
> >>> October 3, 2023 10:30 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG Subject:
> >>> [EXTERNAL] [CODE4LIB] Laptop loans - seeking information
> >>>
> >>>   **EXTERNAL EMAIL** This email originated outside of The University
> >>>   of Texas at San Antonio. Please exercise caution when clicking on
> >>>   links or opening attachments.
> >>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>
> >>> I'm interested in getting information about the details and
> >>> practicalities of laptop loan programs. Anything you can share that's
> >>> working or not would be appreciated. If you have comments on just some
> >>> of the topics below that would be great. Additionally, if you get any
> >>> input from your IT staff about any of these things that is great too.
> >>> I'm happy to post a summary to the list.
> >>>
> >>> Here are some categories I'm interested in hearing about.
> >>>
> >>> Funding / budget
> >>>
> >>> Software supplied / admin access / management tools
> >>>
> >>> Processes and time spent when a laptop is returned
> >>>
> >>> Loan rules / circulation / fines and fees
> >>>
> >>> Partnerships with other departments / role of Library / role of IT
> >>>
> >>> Number of computers vs. patron population / % of laptops checked out /
> > #
> >> of
> >>> lost or damaged computers
> >>>
> >>> Success stories.
> >>>
> >>> Anything else?
> >>>
> >>> Contact of anyone who would be willing to chat more about this.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks so much!
> >>>
> >>> Ann Kucera (she, hers) Manager of Library Systems Adobe Digital Lounge
> >>> Coordinator Park Library 204A  |  Central Michigan University  |
> >>> Mount Pleasant, MI 48859 P: 989-774-2404  |  E: kuce...@cmich.edu
> >>> http://www.cmich.edu/
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] [EXTERNAL] [CODE4LIB] Laptop loans - seeking information

2023-10-03 Thread Hammer, Erich F
heir chance) Ends 1 week after
>>> semester ends. MUST request anew EACH semester. VERY popular program,
>>> regularly run out of these before semester starts
>>> 
>>> 24 hour:
>>> Ask at circ desk, get laptop/charger/bag if available
>>> Return within 24 hours
>>> 
>>> Not sure of fines/fees.  If an extended duration, then been a few
>>> cases where police get involved as potential theft due to policies
>>> above the library.
>>> 
>>> Partnerships with other departments / role of Library / role of IT
>>> Coordinated a bit from campus IT, especially helping with custom
>>> designed image for reimaging quickly Library primary IT, but primary
>>> use support is via campus IT Library 100% in charge of distribution
>>> and maintenance
>>> 
>>> Number of computers vs. patron population / % of laptops checked out /
> #
>> of
>>> lost or damaged computers I believe our current student population is
>>> approximately 35k this year. Semester laptops available I believe (but
>>> not sure), about 250.  ALL get taken, every semester Not sure how many
>>> in pool of 24 hour laptops Usually maybe 5 truly damaged machines
>>> requiring true repair over the case of a full year. Many more turned
>>> in as "not working" and found a quick reimage or reboot solves the
>>> issue, and able to be reissued.
>>> 
>>> Success stories. VERY popular.  Popular with head of library, popular
>>> with Provost, popular with student body. Earned us a LOT of good will.
>>> 
>>> Anything else?
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries
>>>  On Behalf Of Kucera, Ann F Sent: Tuesday,
>>> October 3, 2023 10:30 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG Subject:
>>> [EXTERNAL] [CODE4LIB] Laptop loans - seeking information
>>> 
>>>   **EXTERNAL EMAIL** This email originated outside of The University
>>>   of Texas at San Antonio. Please exercise caution when clicking on
>>>   links or opening attachments.
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I'm interested in getting information about the details and
>>> practicalities of laptop loan programs. Anything you can share that's
>>> working or not would be appreciated. If you have comments on just some
>>> of the topics below that would be great. Additionally, if you get any
>>> input from your IT staff about any of these things that is great too.
>>> I'm happy to post a summary to the list.
>>> 
>>> Here are some categories I'm interested in hearing about.
>>> 
>>> Funding / budget
>>> 
>>> Software supplied / admin access / management tools
>>> 
>>> Processes and time spent when a laptop is returned
>>> 
>>> Loan rules / circulation / fines and fees
>>> 
>>> Partnerships with other departments / role of Library / role of IT
>>> 
>>> Number of computers vs. patron population / % of laptops checked out /
> #
>> of
>>> lost or damaged computers
>>> 
>>> Success stories.
>>> 
>>> Anything else?
>>> 
>>> Contact of anyone who would be willing to chat more about this.
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much!
>>> 
>>> Ann Kucera (she, hers) Manager of Library Systems Adobe Digital Lounge
>>> Coordinator Park Library 204A  |  Central Michigan University  | 
>>> Mount Pleasant, MI 48859 P: 989-774-2404  |  E: kuce...@cmich.edu
>>> http://www.cmich.edu/
>> 
> 
>




Re: [CODE4LIB] [EXTERNAL] [CODE4LIB] Laptop loans - seeking information

2023-10-03 Thread Tamara Marnell
le of IT
> > Coordinated a bit from campus IT, especially helping with custom designed
> > image for reimaging quickly
> > Library primary IT, but primary use support is via campus IT
> > Library 100% in charge of distribution and maintenance
> >
> > Number of computers vs. patron population / % of laptops checked out / #
> of
> > lost or damaged computers
> > I believe our current student population is approximately 35k this year.
> > Semester laptops available I believe (but not sure), about 250.  ALL get
> taken,
> > every semester
> > Not sure how many in pool of 24 hour laptops
> > Usually maybe 5 truly damaged machines requiring true repair over the
> case
> > of a full year.
> > Many more turned in as "not working" and found a quick reimage or reboot
> > solves the issue, and able to be reissued.
> >
> > Success stories.
> > VERY popular.  Popular with head of library, popular with Provost,
> popular
> > with student body.
> > Earned us a LOT of good will.
> >
> > Anything else?
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Code for Libraries  On Behalf Of Kucera,
> > Ann F
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:30 AM
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CODE4LIB] Laptop loans - seeking information
> >
> >   **EXTERNAL EMAIL**
> >   This email originated outside of The University of Texas at San
> Antonio.
> >   Please exercise caution when clicking on links or opening attachments.
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I'm interested in getting information about the details and
> practicalities of
> > laptop loan programs. Anything you can share that's working or not would
> be
> > appreciated. If you have comments on just some of the topics below that
> > would be great. Additionally, if you get any input from your IT staff
> about any
> > of these things that is great too. I'm happy to post a summary to the
> list.
> >
> > Here are some categories I'm interested in hearing about.
> >
> > Funding / budget
> >
> > Software supplied / admin access / management tools
> >
> > Processes and time spent when a laptop is returned
> >
> > Loan rules / circulation / fines and fees
> >
> > Partnerships with other departments / role of Library / role of IT
> >
> > Number of computers vs. patron population / % of laptops checked out / #
> of
> > lost or damaged computers
> >
> > Success stories.
> >
> > Anything else?
> >
> > Contact of anyone who would be willing to chat more about this.
> >
> > Thanks so much!
> >
> > Ann Kucera (she, hers)
> > Manager of Library Systems
> > Adobe Digital Lounge Coordinator
> > Park Library 204A  |  Central Michigan University  |  Mount Pleasant, MI
> 48859
> > P: 989-774-2404  |  E: kuce...@cmich.edu
> > http://www.cmich.edu/
>


-- 

Tamara Marnell
Program Manager, Systems
Orbis Cascade Alliance (orbiscascade.org <https://www.orbiscascade.org/>)
Pronouns: she/her/hers


Re: [CODE4LIB] [EXTERNAL] [CODE4LIB] Laptop loans - seeking information

2023-10-03 Thread Hammer, Erich F
Bruce,

So many questions...

24 hour loans:  
* Given the zeroth rule, "without physical security, you have no security", how 
do you trust that the system hasn't been manipulated in a way that compromises 
future users?  
* How are you "clearing" the system between users?
* Are you using auto-login, or do users log in as themselves?   
* How are you ensuring Windows and/or applications are updated/patched?
* How have you trained access services staff/students to identify damage? 
* Only 5 damaged systems/year out of 250!!?  We used to have 5/semester out of 
25.  Missing keycaps, damaged ports, loose hinges, and filthy.   The repair 
center *HATED* the program, and the laptops looked like something the dog 
dragged in.  

Lack of funding and severe lack of available staff killed our lending program, 
but it was so popular that we are trying to figure out how to get it going 
again.  The last time I asked (on the LABMAN listserv), the consensus was that 
for security, laptops simply must be re-imaged after every loan and if you are 
doing that anyway, you may as well set up auto-login with admin rights so users 
can easily do what they need.  The "vending" machine kiosks can do that kind of 
re-imaging, but hoo-boy, !

Thanks,
Erich



On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 11:56, Bruce Orcutt eloquently inscribed:

> We have a laptop loan program, with two levels, semester loan, and a 24
> hour loan.
> 
> Funding / budget
> Initial was grants, especially COVID related.  Besides that, retired staff 
> laptops
> can enter the mix of laptops loaned
> 
> Software supplied / admin access / management tools Software: O365
> tools, Adobe tools are the basics Admin:  24 hour loan, no user admin
> access. Semester: user must come in, log in once, then systems staff
> adds users as a local admin Management: both: Windows Defender,
> GoToAssist, nessus, Carbon Black. 24 hour: add smart shield.  Anything
> saved on hard drive is lost upon reboot, ALL data must be saved on USB
> or OneDrive, google drive, etc
> 
> Processes and time spent when a laptop is returned
> Semester: machine put in pile for systems.  Systems re-images with default
> system image, then returns to available use pile for access services
> 24 hour: Reboot, check for physical damage, if damage leave for systems
> department review.  Otherwise, return to available pile
> 
> Loan rules / circulation / fines and fees
> Semester:
> request queue starts 4 weeks before semester starts.
> Simple web form and database, used to track between access and systems
> Used to track how many available, when user will be coming in to pick up,
> how many on standby users (if no one picks up, they get their chance)
> Ends 1 week after semester ends.
> MUST request anew EACH semester.
> VERY popular program, regularly run out of these before semester starts
> 
> 24 hour:
> Ask at circ desk, get laptop/charger/bag if available
> Return within 24 hours
> 
> Not sure of fines/fees.  If an extended duration, then been a few cases
> where police get involved as potential theft due to policies above the 
> library.
> 
> Partnerships with other departments / role of Library / role of IT
> Coordinated a bit from campus IT, especially helping with custom designed
> image for reimaging quickly
> Library primary IT, but primary use support is via campus IT
> Library 100% in charge of distribution and maintenance
> 
> Number of computers vs. patron population / % of laptops checked out / # of
> lost or damaged computers
> I believe our current student population is approximately 35k this year.
> Semester laptops available I believe (but not sure), about 250.  ALL get 
> taken,
> every semester
> Not sure how many in pool of 24 hour laptops
> Usually maybe 5 truly damaged machines requiring true repair over the case
> of a full year.
> Many more turned in as "not working" and found a quick reimage or reboot
> solves the issue, and able to be reissued.
> 
> Success stories.
> VERY popular.  Popular with head of library, popular with Provost, popular
> with student body.
> Earned us a LOT of good will.
> 
> Anything else?
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries  On Behalf Of Kucera,
> Ann F
> Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:30 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CODE4LIB] Laptop loans - seeking information
> 
>   **EXTERNAL EMAIL**
>   This email originated outside of The University of Texas at San Antonio.
>   Please exercise caution when clicking on links or opening attachments.
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I'm interested in getting information about the details and practicalities of
> laptop loan programs. Anything you c

Re: [CODE4LIB] [EXTERNAL] [CODE4LIB] Laptop loans - seeking information

2023-10-03 Thread Bruce Orcutt
We have a laptop loan program, with two levels, semester loan, and a 24 hour 
loan.

Funding / budget
Initial was grants, especially COVID related.  Besides that, retired staff 
laptops can enter the mix of laptops loaned


Software supplied / admin access / management tools
Software: O365 tools, Adobe tools are the basics
Admin:  24 hour loan, no user admin access. Semester: user must come in, log in 
once, then systems staff adds users as a local admin
Management:
both: Windows Defender, GoToAssist, nessus, Carbon Black.
24 hour: add smart shield.  Anything saved on hard drive is lost upon reboot, 
ALL data must be saved on USB or OneDrive, google drive, etc

Processes and time spent when a laptop is returned
Semester: machine put in pile for systems.  Systems re-images with default 
system image, then returns to available use pile for access services
24 hour: Reboot, check for physical damage, if damage leave for systems 
department review.  Otherwise, return to available pile

Loan rules / circulation / fines and fees
Semester:
request queue starts 4 weeks before semester starts.
Simple web form and database, used to track between access and systems
Used to track how many available, when user will be coming in to pick up, how 
many on standby users (if no one picks up, they get their chance)
Ends 1 week after semester ends.
MUST request anew EACH semester.
VERY popular program, regularly run out of these before semester starts

24 hour:
Ask at circ desk, get laptop/charger/bag if available
Return within 24 hours

Not sure of fines/fees.  If an extended duration, then been a few cases where 
police get involved as potential theft due to policies above the library.

Partnerships with other departments / role of Library / role of IT
Coordinated a bit from campus IT, especially helping with custom designed image 
for reimaging quickly
Library primary IT, but primary use support is via campus IT
Library 100% in charge of distribution and maintenance


Number of computers vs. patron population / % of laptops checked out / # of 
lost or damaged computers
I believe our current student population is approximately 35k this year.  
Semester laptops available I believe (but not sure), about 250.  ALL get taken, 
every semester
Not sure how many in pool of 24 hour laptops
Usually maybe 5 truly damaged machines requiring true repair over the case of a 
full year.
Many more turned in as "not working" and found a quick reimage or reboot solves 
the issue, and able to be reissued.


Success stories.
VERY popular.  Popular with head of library, popular with Provost, popular with 
student body.
Earned us a LOT of good will.

Anything else?

Hope this helps

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries  On Behalf Of Kucera, Ann F
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:30 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CODE4LIB] Laptop loans - seeking information

  **EXTERNAL EMAIL**
  This email originated outside of The University of Texas at San Antonio.
  Please exercise caution when clicking on links or opening attachments.



Hello Everyone,

I'm interested in getting information about the details and practicalities of 
laptop loan programs. Anything you can share that's working or not would be 
appreciated. If you have comments on just some of the topics below that would 
be great. Additionally, if you get any input from your IT staff about any of 
these things that is great too. I'm happy to post a summary to the list.

Here are some categories I'm interested in hearing about.

Funding / budget

Software supplied / admin access / management tools

Processes and time spent when a laptop is returned

Loan rules / circulation / fines and fees

Partnerships with other departments / role of Library / role of IT

Number of computers vs. patron population / % of laptops checked out / # of 
lost or damaged computers

Success stories.

Anything else?

Contact of anyone who would be willing to chat more about this.

Thanks so much!



Ann Kucera (she, hers)
Manager of Library Systems
Adobe Digital Lounge Coordinator
Park Library 204A  |  Central Michigan University  |  Mount Pleasant, MI 48859
P: 989-774-2404  |  E: kuce...@cmich.edu
http://www.cmich.edu/


[CODE4LIB] Laptop loans - seeking information

2023-10-03 Thread Kucera, Ann F
Hello Everyone,

I'm interested in getting information about the details and practicalities of 
laptop loan programs. Anything you can share that's working or not would be 
appreciated. If you have comments on just some of the topics below that would 
be great. Additionally, if you get any input from your IT staff about any of 
these things that is great too. I'm happy to post a summary to the list.

Here are some categories I'm interested in hearing about.

Funding / budget

Software supplied / admin access / management tools

Processes and time spent when a laptop is returned

Loan rules / circulation / fines and fees

Partnerships with other departments / role of Library / role of IT

Number of computers vs. patron population / % of laptops checked out / # of 
lost or damaged computers

Success stories.

Anything else?

Contact of anyone who would be willing to chat more about this.

Thanks so much!



Ann Kucera (she, hers)
Manager of Library Systems
Adobe Digital Lounge Coordinator
Park Library 204A  |  Central Michigan University  |  Mount Pleasant, MI 48859
P: 989-774-2404  |  E: kuce...@cmich.edu 
www.cmich.edu