Re: [CODE4LIB] One Data Format Identifier (and Registry) to Rule Them All

2009-05-11 Thread Jakob Voss
Hi, I summarized my thoughts about identifiers for data formats in a blog posting: http://jakoblog.de/2009/05/10/who-identifies-the-identifiers/ In short it’s not a technology issue but a commitment issue and the problem of identifying the right identifiers for data formats can be reduced

Re: [CODE4LIB] One Data Format Identifier (and Registry) to Rule Them All

2009-05-11 Thread Rob Sanderson
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 11:31 +0100, Jakob Voss wrote A format should be described with a schema (XML Schema, OWL etc.) or at least a standard. Mostly this schema already has a namespace or similar identifier that can be used for the whole format. This is unfortunately not the case. For

Re: [CODE4LIB] One Data Format Identifier (and Registry) to Rule Them All

2009-05-11 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 16:04, Rob Sanderson azar...@liverpool.ac.uk wrote: * One namespace is used to define two _totally_ separate sets of elements.  There's no reason why this can't be done. As opposed to all the reasons for not doing it. :) This is crap design of a higher magnitude, and the

Re: [CODE4LIB] One Data Format Identifier (and Registry) to Rule Them All

2009-05-11 Thread Rob Sanderson
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 12:02 +0100, Alexander Johannesen wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 16:04, Rob Sanderson azar...@liverpool.ac.uk wrote: * One namespace is used to define two _totally_ separate sets of elements. There's no reason why this can't be done. As opposed to all the reasons for

[CODE4LIB] Amazon product API will require a crypto signature

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
The Amazon products API keeps changing it's name, and has just been changed to Amazon Product Advertising API -- it's the one you use to look up books in Amazon and get metadata for them, though. It looks from an email I got from Amazon that ss of August 15th, you'll need to cryptographically

[CODE4LIB] Formats and its identifiers

2009-05-11 Thread Jakob Voss
Hi Rob, You wrote: A format should be described with a schema (XML Schema, OWL etc.) or at least a standard. Mostly this schema already has a namespace or similar identifier that can be used for the whole format. This is unfortunately not the case. It is mostly the case - but people like

Re: [CODE4LIB] One Data Format Identifier (and Registry) to Rule Them All

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Alexander Johannesen wrote: Yeah, don't use MODS in general; it's a hack. It's even crazier still that many versions have the same namespace. What were they thinking?! Um, MODS is awfully useful for a bunch of reasons. I'm not going to stop using it because they've used namespaces in a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formats and its identifiers

2009-05-11 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Jakob Voss jakob.v...@gbv.de wrote: That's your interpretation. According to the schema, the MODS format *is* either a single mods-element or a modsCollection-element. That's exactely what you can refer to with the namespace identifier

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formats and its identifiers

2009-05-11 Thread Rob Sanderson
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 14:53 +0100, Jakob Voss wrote: A format should be described with a schema (XML Schema, OWL etc.) or at least a standard. Mostly this schema already has a namespace or similar identifier that can be used for the whole format. This is unfortunately not the case.

Re: [CODE4LIB] One Data Format Identifier (and Registry) to Rule Them All

2009-05-11 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Jakob Voss jakob.v...@gbv.de wrote: 2) require some laborious and lengthy submission and review process to just say hey, here's my FOAF available via UnAPI The identifier for FOAF is http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/. Forget about identifiers that are not URIs.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Amazon product API will require a crypto signature

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Spalding
They're also tightened up the API in various ways, and renamed it the Amazon.com Product Advertising API. Although I know of no case when Amazon has shut down a library, it would be hard for any to claim their site had as their principal purpose advertising and marketing the Amazon Site and

Re: [CODE4LIB] One Data Format Identifier (and Registry) to Rule Them All

2009-05-11 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 19:34, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: In the real world, we use things when they solve the problem in front of us in as easy a way as possible And somehow you're suggesting that I don't live in the real-world? :) Good try, but as far as I've experienced,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Amazon product API will require a crypto signature

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
In fact, I believe that library-sector developers have asked Amazon and been told that their use is allowed. But definitely, there's no guarantee this will always continue be true. The terms of use don't seem to have substantially changed to me, but they could always start enforcing them more

Re: [CODE4LIB] Amazon product API will require a crypto signature

2009-05-11 Thread Nate Vack
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Tim Spalding t...@librarything.com wrote: I think it's a terrible mistake for them. Their marginal cost is zero; they don't need to do this. Their marginal cost may be quite low, but I'm fairly sure it's not zero. Cycles, storage, and bandwidth aren't free.

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2009-05-11 Thread Tito Sierra
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Formats and its identifiers

2009-05-11 Thread Karen Coyle
Ross Singer wrote: Agreed. The same is true, of course, of MARC and, by extension, MARCXML. Part of the format is that it can be one record or multiple. I don't think this a particularly strong argument against using the namespace as an identifier. Actually, the MARC format (not