Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Sean Hannan
All of this, plus SpringShare has great support. Like, the best of any library vendor I've dealt with. I've had them implement features within an hour of me sending the email suggesting it. The big downside of LibGuides is that it's ease of use (and ease if reuse) leads to content sprawl like

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Heather Rayl
I have to say that I loathe LibGuides. My library makes extensive use of them, too. Need a web solution? The first thing out of someone's mouth is Let's put it in a LibGuide! Shudder This fall, I'll be moving our main site over to Drupal, and I'm hoping that eventually I can convince people to

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Sullivan, Mark V
Your best bet is to get a clear mandate from administration on what should go where. i.e., Writing a subject guide for faculty and students to use? Put it in a LibGuide. Creating a departmental, unit, or committee site? Use the new fancy, shiny web content management system! Barring that,

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Wilhelmina Randtke
If you look at the subject guides plugin for Drupal, you will see that mimicking LibGuides is possible. That might be a way to appease, however the biggest issue I saw with LibGuides was too many librarians making something and never updating, or starting a guide, publishing it, then never

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Wilhelmina Randtke
For Wordpress versus LibGuides, both are kind of miserable and unsatisfying unless you are with a large library with in-house systems staff. LibGuides was clunky and extremely limited when I used it a few years ago. I also found Springshare tech support was not at all responsive to questions or

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Robert Sebek
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Heather Rayl 23e...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say that I loathe LibGuides. My library makes extensive use of them, too. Need a web solution? The first thing out of someone's mouth is Let's put it in a LibGuide! Shudder This fall, I'll be moving our main

[CODE4LIB] Job: Program Officer at American Library Association

2013-08-11 Thread jobs
The American Library Association seeks a Program Officer, Continuing Education for its Association for Library Service to Children (ALSC) division. Reporting to the Executive Director you will manage the division's continuing education program, conferences, National Institute, and special projects

[CODE4LIB] Job: Technical Services Librarian at Bridgewater State College

2013-08-11 Thread jobs
This is a full-time, twelve month, tenure track position. Rank is commensurate with experience. This is an Exempt position which falls within the MSCA Union (Massachusetts State College Association). * Provides leadership for the Technical Services unit, which includes cataloging (all

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Emily Morton-Owens
I've found that librarians gravitate towards tools like LibGuides and WordPress because they want to use what they've seen other libraries using, putting me in a strange position when try to explain that we (with more tech resources) can actually do better. Several times I've had the experience

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Cornel Darden Jr.
Hello? Soringshre's link-rot tool has gotten much better. Even at alerting admins about broken links. I think $999 a year for the basic package is worth it since most librarians aren't coders like we 'ALL' should be! Maybe an open source solution created by librarians is needed. However

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Andrew Darby
There are open source solutions created by librarians: SubjectsPlus and Library a la Carte. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Cornel Darden Jr. corneldarde...@gmail.com wrote: Hello? Soringshre's link-rot tool has gotten much better. Even at alerting admins about broken links. I think $999

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Wilhelmina Randtke
Technology tools are a non issue here. Straightforward documented open source technology is readily available. What is missing is technology skills. Someone can't buy those if they don't already have technology skills, or else they are a sitting duck for scammers. With a basic pricing of about

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Andrew Darby
I don't get this argument at all. Why is it counter productive to try to look at open source alternatives if the vendor's option is relatively cheap? Why wouldn't you investigate all options? Maybe the vendor option makes sense, maybe the open source option does. The technology skills for open

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread stuart yeates
On 12/08/13 12:20, Andrew Darby wrote: I don't get this argument at all. Why is it counter productive to try to look at open source alternatives if the vendor's option is relatively cheap? Why wouldn't you investigate all options? If you have no in-house technical capability, the cost of

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Thomas Krichel
Andrew Darby writes I don't get this argument at all. I breathe a sigh of relief. I didn't understand it either, but I blamed my brain fog. Maybe the vendor option makes sense, maybe the open source option does. The vendor option may be based on it just hosting the open source

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Thomas Krichel
stuart yeates writes If you have no in-house technical capability, the cost of looking at an open source alternative can easily outweigh the multi-year licensing fee. Yeah, but if you don't have an in-house technical capability you condemn yourself to history. I bet that in the middle

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Lauren Magnuson
I've worked at a small, under-resourced institution that had LibGuides, despite the fact that as a staff member I did have the technical know-how to install and maintain an open-source solution. So why didn't we? My existing job duties without an open-source guide project already demanded 120%

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Ross Singer
I don't think the remedy to a lack of technology skills is to make librarians into shade tree sysadmins. *That's* the expense that gets swept under the rug in the open source argument. Most advocates have systems administrators and infrastructure to support implementing things themselves and

Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it

2013-08-11 Thread Suzanne Pilsk
no one has mention the integration of LibGuides into other packages. Anyone here involved with Summon 2.0? it is integrating libguides... but we are not a libguide site. curious if others would put that into the consideration bucket. Sent from New Gadget On Aug 11, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Lauren