If Zotero is slurping up these Endnote-created .ens files without users
even knowing about it, that would be one thing.
But if .ens files can be created by many people, and if users can use
Zotero to import any of these .ens files, and if users _choose_ to use
Zotero to import Endnote-created
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On Sep 28, 2008, at 9:55 PM, Walter Lewis wrote:
I had read the original claim as we export citations accepted at
3500 journals (most of which they might have been able to accomplish
with the couple dozen styles in question given the popularity
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On Sep 29, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
But there's nothing illegal about reverse engineering it. Unless
perhaps you've signed a contract saying you wouldn't (did George
Mason? Perhaps, if they have an EndNote license).
I'm guessing that GMU-paid people wrote the code in question—they have
quite a team now. But it would an interesting legal question if
outside people had done it as part of the Open Source process and GMU
had merely agreed to include the code.
Tim
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Peter Murray
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On Sep 29, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Tim Spalding wrote:
I'm guessing that GMU-paid people wrote the code in question―they have
quite a team now. But it would an interesting legal question if
outside people had done it as part of the Open Source process
Peter Murray wrote:
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On Sep 29, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Tim Spalding wrote:
I'm guessing that GMU-paid people wrote the code in question―they have
quite a team now. But it would an interesting legal question if
outside people had done it as part of
Edward M. Corrado wrote:
This will be interesting to see how it works out. From what I read, it
looks like the case that Thomson has is based on, or at least strongly
enhanced by, the EULA. Thus, the legal questions may end up being 1) is
freeing data from a proprietary file format aviolation
Klein, Michael wrote:
Edward M. Corrado wrote:
This will be interesting to see how it works out. From what I read, it
looks like the case that Thomson has is based on, or at least strongly
enhanced by, the EULA. Thus, the legal questions may end up being 1) is
freeing data from a
Am I wrong, though, in thinking that a clean-room recreation of the Zotero
code that parses .ens files would be legal (although the use of ISI-provided
.ens files would still be, at best, questionable)? If so, I'd like to
encourage everyone who might be interested in working on such a project to
Edward M. Corrado wrote:
This will be interesting to see how it works out. From what I read, it
looks like the case that Thomson has is based on, or at least strongly
enhanced by, the EULA. Thus, the legal questions may end up being 1) is
freeing data from a proprietary file format aviolation
Makes sense to me. Only the judge that decides the case knows for sure.
Jonathan
Bill Dueber wrote:
Am I wrong, though, in thinking that a clean-room recreation of the Zotero
code that parses .ens files would be legal (although the use of ISI-provided
.ens files would still be, at best,
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I've posted some analysis and plenty of links to critical bits at
http://dltj.org/article/endnote-zotero-lawsuit/
Some other thoughts...
On Sep 26, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Reese, Terry wrote:
While reverse engineering the .ens
style files really isn't
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I've posted some analysis and plenty of links to critical bits at
http://dltj.org/article/endnote-zotero-lawsuit/
Some other thoughts...
On Sep 26, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Reese, Terry wrote:
While reverse
Peter Murray wrote:
The version of EndNote I have (circa 2005) came with a couple dozen
styles, and as of now Thomson Scientific has 3,500 up on their EndNote
Styles website.
I had read the original claim as we export citations accepted at 3500
journals (most of which they might have been able
http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/09/17/Reuters_Says_George_Mason_University_Is_Handing_Out_Its_Proprietary_Software.htm
I guess stuff like this is what gives me that anti-corporate bias...
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