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Well, those are cute quotes and it's not difficult to find criticisms of any
programming language online. But the point remains that you can write almost
all of C within a C++ context, and in terms of learning fundamentals an
introduction to programming with C++ is going to cover more relevant
It's always good to know C if you ever need to write an Apache module!
Juan Madrigal
Web Developer
University of Miami
Richter Library
On Jul 30, 2011, at 5:39 AM, Luciano Ramalho luci...@ramalho.org wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Genny Engel gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us wrote:
C++ might
On 29 July 2011 14:00, Cowles, Esme escow...@ucsd.edu wrote:
I think most of the focus on C in this discussion is because that's what the
OP had available. The consensus seems to be: C isn't the language you would
pick if you had your choice, but if that's what's available, it's a fine
Simon Spero sesunc...@gmail.com wrote:
Additional languages which carry weight with me on a resume are
OCaml, Processing, and any of Common Lisp, Scheme, or Clojure.
Did you mean Clozure? The other two are kinds of lisp. :-P
;-). Nothing wrong with Clojure -- presumably JSR 292 in Java
Bill Dueber b...@dueber.com wrote:
Unless you're in a very, *very* different library than mine, all the
low-level stuff written in C and variants are at a low-enough level (and in
very specialized domains) that I'd never have an expectation that anyone
working in the library would mess with
Until the Singularity happens, anyway. I'd think there will always be lots
of enterprise Java jobs around.
The Singularity will be written in Java.
Jason
On 11-07-27 7:32 PM, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.commailto:jans...@parc.com
wrote:
If I'm hiring a programmer, I want them to know C and
On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
If I'm hiring a programmer, I want them to know C and Python. [...]
Various flavors of C are acceptable: Objective-C is OK with me, and
C++ is a plus -- it's an order of magnitude more difficult than C to
use properly, and people who can
Thank the FSM!!!
No Singularity in our lifetime!
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Fowler, Jason jason.fow...@ubc.ca wrote:
Until the Singularity happens, anyway. I'd think there will always be lots
of enterprise Java jobs around.
The Singularity will be written in Java.
Jason
On
Interestingly, I disagree with almost everything you say below. Of course
PARC is unlike almost everywhere else :-)
Unless you're in a very, *very* different library than mine, all the
low-level stuff written in C and variants are at a low-enough level (and in
very specialized domains) that I'd
If I'm hiring a programmer, I want them to know C and Python. C because
all the low-level stuff is written in that, Python because it's simply
the most useful all-around programming language at the moment, and if
you don't know it, well, how devoted are you really to your craft?
Various flavors
If you're looking to do web programming, C is probably not going to directly
benefit you - it's not that it's a bad language to learn, or that it doesn't
have uses, but you'd probably be better off trying to improve your PHP or
RoR skills.
That being said, if you need to get lower-level knowledge
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:54:36PM -0500, Lepczyk, Timothy wrote:
Hi All,
I work in a digital library and am transitioning to something more like a
programmer and less like a librarian. My strengths are in xslt and unix, but
I've been working some with php and ruby on rails. I'm trying
It kind of depends on what you want to do. If you're going to stick with
web programming, I'm not sure C is very practical, but it will give you
exposure to concepts that may give you a better theoretical understanding of
programming and computer science concepts overall. If you want to get into
Tim-
As someone who learned to program by myself, I found taking a similar class
very helpful (my circumstances sound the same as yours, except in my case the
language was Java). It gave me a good foundation to learn new languages, new
technologies, etc. The general approach and concepts
Of Genny
Engel
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Advice on a class
When I was in library school, the programming classes there were in C (this was
quite a while ago!). I've found it actually quite useful to have that
background when learning
On Jul 26, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Lepczyk, Timothy wrote:
Thanks everyone. The reasons I thought of taking the C course is a) it's
free, b) concepts might be transferrable to other languages. I may continue
to focus on Ruby on Rails.
Before everyone manages to scare you away from learning C,
I think that by taking the C class, it will start you on a long road
towards programming - some of the topics you may encounter may not be
immediately applicable to your RoR or PHP learning experiences, but it
should provide you a nice foundation in problem solving (from a
programming perspective)
: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Advice on a class
Thanks everyone. The reasons I thought of taking the C course is a) it's free,
b) concepts might be transferrable to other languages. I may continue to focus
on Ruby on Rails.
Tim Lepczyk
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 20:40, Gabriel Farrell gsf...@gmail.com wrote:
If the textbook is KR, take the class.
And if the professor is GR, bang your head.
There are still plenty of opportunities for Cobol coders, but I
wouldn't recommend that either.
I would recommend that you take a course that concentrates on the
fundamentals of modern programming and uses a modern language. I like
writing in languages that let you write clean code and be as
On 27/07/11 06:54, Lepczyk, Timothy wrote:
Hi All,
I work in a digital library and am transitioning to something more like a
programmer and less like a librarian. My strengths are in xslt and unix, but
I've been working some with php and ruby on rails. I'm trying to learn as much
as I can,
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