Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy]

2016-06-10 Thread Benjamin Armintor
Thank you, Coral and Tom. I'd also like us to: 1. stop characterizing regional meetings as DIY, as if we have outsourced the organizing of the national meeting somehow without doing it ourselves. Many people worked hard to put the 2016 meeting (and all the others) on, and they don't deserve to hav

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy]

2016-06-10 Thread Mike Giarlo
From: Code for Libraries on behalf of Tom Johnson Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 08:38 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy] Eric, I appreciate that you're trying to make a call to action, but this latest email is stunningly condescending. As I'

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy]

2016-06-10 Thread Tom Johnson
Eric, I appreciate that you're trying to make a call to action, but this latest email is stunningly condescending. As I'm sure you must know, people in this community do hold regional meetings. These meetings take substantial effort to arrange. The wiki is full of documentation, advice, and lesso

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy]

2016-06-10 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Jun 9, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess wrote: > One note about what we're discussing: when we talk about just doing the > regional events (and I mean beyond 2017, which will be a special case if a > host city can't step in), we need to realize that we have a lot of members > who aren't in

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy]

2016-06-09 Thread Coral Sheldon-Hess
One note about what we're discussing: when we talk about just doing the regional events (and I mean beyond 2017, which will be a special case if a host city can't step in), we need to realize that we have a lot of members who aren't in a Code4Lib region. You might think I'm talking about Alaska, b

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy]

2016-06-09 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 6:40 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: > > Hosting a local/regional meeting is not difficult and relatively > inexpensive. While I find the intent to make code4lib more "distributed" through localized meetings, I find this statement incredibly belittling and disingenuous. Ther

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy]

2016-06-09 Thread Shaun D. Ellis
I believe the distillation of Code4Lib’s value into enabling “communication and sharing” is accurate, but I think this should be further focused. Showcasing what we’ve done and how we’ve done it is wonderful, but only goes so far since many of our open source solutions still require a loads of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy]

2016-06-08 Thread Kari R Smith
smithkr at mit.edu http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/ -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric Hellman Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 2:51 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy] S

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy]

2016-06-08 Thread Matt Sherman
Eric, Thanks for tossing these ideas out there. A number of these ideas had not occurred to me, even though I've been wanting to see more local events. What you and Kyle are saying is resounding far more than I would have initially thought. I think in general one of the great things with Code4L

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy]

2016-06-08 Thread Eric Hellman
Since we're brainstorming... In addition to regional meetings, how about having some smaller, national or even international thematic Code4Lib meetings. For example, I see an aching need for a "Code4Lib:Privacy". Eric Hellman President, Free Ebook Foundation Founder, Unglue.it https://unglue.i

Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib? [diy]

2016-06-08 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Jun 8, 2016, at 1:55 AM, Kyle Banerjee wrote: > My recollection is that in the bad 'ol days, c4l was much more about sharing > ideas to solve practical problems… Nowadays, the conference (which has become > like other library conferences) has become an end in itself… In the spirit of open