Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu
If you read my email, I don't tell anyone what to use, but simply
attempt to clear up some fallacies. Distributed version control is new
to many, and I want to make sure that folks are getting accurate
information from this list.
As would I. I don't think
in this thread, or on this listserv at all,
really. )
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in this thread, or on this listserv at all,
really. )
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Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu
* Myth #1 : GitHub creates a barrier to entry.
That's a fact, not a myth. Myself, I won't give GitHub my full legal
name and I suspect there are others who won't. So, we're not welcome
there and if we lie to register, all our work would be subject to
deletion
If you read my email, I don't tell anyone what to use, but simply
attempt to clear up some fallacies. Distributed version control is new
to many, and I want to make sure that folks are getting accurate
information from this list.
Unfortunately, this statement is not accurate either:
//
Also, as a side note (and of interest to some) you *can* add pull requests to
your repo:
https://gist.github.com/piscisaureus/3342247
On 2013-02-21, at 10:29 AM, Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu wrote:
If you read my email, I don't tell anyone what to use, but simply attempt to
clear up
Once again, these are not “fallacies”: they are disagreements.
When you say that GitHub is not team-centered, it's not a
disagreement; it's simply false. If you say I don't agree with the way
GitHub implements the concept of teams, then that is a disagreement.
You said the first, but
An open tool is Internet email: I can send an email from my provider
(ucop.edu) to yours (princeton.edu). A closed tool is github, where I
need a github account to send you a pull request. An open tool would
be one where I can send a pull request bitbucket to github.
(Obviously, bitbucket is
Devon:
I don't think anyone is asking you to accommodate them in your choice of
tools or even approve of what they see as barriers. This conversation
started because of an understanding that the poetry folks *do want* to
accommodate others' needs and preferences. Taking that assumption in hand,
I
As far as the poetry goes, not my thing, so I don't have a comment on what
is actually used. The thread appeared to fork onto a discussion about
github use more generally. My apologies to all if it is still tightly
coupled to the poetry thing. The rest of my comments assume the more
general
If you're not willing to provide even your name to make use of a free
service, then I dare say you are erecting your own barriers. Such is your
choice, of course, but I don't think others need to be compelled
to accommodate the barriers you create for yourself.
And just because the terms of
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM, David Friggens frigg...@waikato.ac.nzwrote:
To all the people complaining about the Code4Lib 2014 conference
being unwelcoming because of our new No Clothes Policy, I say you are
wrong. We are entitled to enact our own conditions of entry, and if
you are
Don't you mean I hope to see all of you there.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM, David Friggens frigg...@waikato.ac.nz wrote:
If you're not willing to provide even your name to make use of a free
service, then I dare say you are erecting your own barriers. Such is your
choice, of course, but I
Shaun, you cannot decide whether github is a barrier to entry FOR ME (or
anyone else), any more than you can decide whether or not my foot hurts.
I'm telling you github is NOT what I want to use. Period.
I'm actually thinking that a blog format would be nice. It could be
pretty (poetry and
Wordpress?
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Shaun, you cannot decide whether github is a barrier to entry FOR ME (or
anyone else), any more than you can decide whether or not my foot hurts.
I'm telling you github is NOT what I want to use. Period.
I'm
On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Shaun, you cannot decide whether github is a barrier to entry FOR ME (or
anyone else), any more than you can decide whether or not my foot hurts. I'm
telling you github is NOT what I want to use. Period.
I'm actually
Sure. Although the question was more: how can we make it easy to have a
bunch of accounts? Or should we have a c4l account that we share (and
monitor for spam)? I think anything wysiwyg-y and familiar (wordpress
certainly meets those criteria) would be fine. There does seem to be a
lot of
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Sure. Although the question was more: how can we make it easy to have a
bunch of accounts? Or should we have a c4l account that we share (and
monitor for spam)? I think anything wysiwyg-y and familiar (wordpress
certainly
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Sure. Although the question was more: how can we make it easy to have a
bunch of accounts? Or should we have a c4l account that we share
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Shaun, you cannot decide whether github is a barrier to entry FOR ME (or
anyone else), any more than you can decide whether or not my foot hurts.
I'm telling you
At Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:20:33 -0500,
Shaun Ellis wrote:
(As a general rule, for every programmer who prefers tool A, and says
that everybody should use it, there’s a programmer who disparages tool
A, and advocates tool B. So take what we say with a grain of salt!)
It doesn't matter
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Shaun, you cannot decide whether github is a barrier to entry FOR ME (or
anyone else), any more than you can decide whether or not my foot hurts.
I'm telling
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Shaun, you cannot
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Shaun, you cannot decide whether github is a barrier to entry FOR ME
(or
anyone else), any more than you can decide whether or not my foot
From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Tom Johnson
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But while I get
Probably a mistake for me to post at all, but I'm full of mistakes. You
know what, if someone wants to set up a spot for nerd poetry, I think
they should do so. If someone else wants to set up a different spot
using different tech, I think they should do so too.
I think it's mistaken to think
Ah, my bad.
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WE're talking about wordpress
At Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:50:45 -0800,
Tom Johnson wrote:
but it would be difficult to replace the social network around the
projects.
Especially difficult now that GitHub is where the community is. It's
technically possible to build a social web that works on a decentralized
basis, but it
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