Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
Thanks for the suggestions and links, everyone. I'll check them out and see what will work for me. -- Derik A. Badman Digital Services Librarian Reference Librarian for Education and Social Work Temple University Libraries Paley Library 209 Philadelphia, PA Phone: 215-204-5250 Email: dbad...@temple.edu AIM: derikbad Research makes times march forward, it makes time march backward, and it also makes time stand still. -Greil Marcus
Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
Or use the modified xissn service of OCLC: http://xissn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/issn/1095-9203?method=getMetadatafl=issnl,rssurl Peter Drs. P.J.C. van Boheemen Hoofd Applicatieontwikkeling en beheer - Bibliotheek Wageningen UR Head of Application Development and Management - Wageningen University and Research Library tel. +31 317 48 25 17 http://library.wur.nl http://library.wur.nl/ P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: Code for Libraries on behalf of Godmar Back Sent: Fri 12-6-2009 5:55 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript Yes - see this email http://serials.infomotions.com/code4lib/archive/2009/200905/0909.html If you can host yourself, the stand-alone version is efficient and easy to keep up to date - just run a cronjob that downloads the text file from JISC. My WSGI script will automatically pick up if it has changed on disk. - Godmar On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Annette Bailey afbai...@vt.edu wrote: Godmar Back wrote a web service in python for ticTOC with an eye to incorporating links into III's Millennium catalog. http://code.google.com/p/tictoclookup/ http://tictoclookup.appspot.com/ Annette On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Derik Badmandbad...@temple.edu wrote: Hello all, Just joined the list, and I'm hoping to get a suggestion or two. I'm working on using the ticTOCs ( http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/ ) text file of rss feed urls for journals to insert links to those feeds in our Serials Solution Journal Finder. I've got it working using a bit of jQuery. Demo here: http://155.247.22.22/badman/toc/demo.html The javascript is here: http://155.247.22.22/badman/toc/toc-rss.js Getting that working wasn't too hard, but I'm a bit concerned about efficiency and caching. I'm not sure the way I'm checking isbns against the text file is the most efficient way to go. Basically I'm making an ajax call to the file that takes the data and makes an array of objects. I then query the isbn of each journal on the page against the array of objects. If there's a match I pull the data and put it on the page. I'm wondering if there's a better way to do this, especially since the text file is over 1mb. I'm not looking for code, just ideas. I'm also looking for any pointers about using the file itself and somehow auto-downloading it to my server on a regular basis. Right now I just saved a copy to my server, but in the future it'd be good to automate grabbing the file from ticTOCs server on a regular basis and updating the one on my server (perhaps I'd need to use a cron job to do that?). Thanks for much for any suggestions or pointers. (For what it's worth, I can manage with javascript or php.) -- Derik A. Badman Digital Services Librarian Reference Librarian for Education and Social Work Temple University Libraries Paley Library 209 Philadelphia, PA Phone: 215-204-5250 Email: dbad...@temple.edu AIM: derikbad Research makes times march forward, it makes time march backward, and it also makes time stand still. -Greil Marcus
Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Derik Badmandbad...@temple.edu wrote: Hello all, I'm not sure the way I'm checking isbns against the text file is the most efficient way to go. Basically I'm making an ajax call to the file that takes the data and makes an array of objects. I then query the isbn of each journal on the page against the array of objects. If there's a match I pull the data and put it on the page. I'm wondering if there's a better way to do this, especially since the text file is over 1mb. I'm not looking for code, just ideas. I guess the first question is if it is really necessary to use a text file? I'm not entirely clear on this process, but perhaps the text file could be imported into a database. You could attempt to use some sort of function that cleans up ISBNs and use that as the lookup. You might run into occasional issues such as ISBNs not being unique, but it sounds like you could run into that issue in any case. Then of course perhaps there's some way to add this to the Serials Solution database directly? Then you don't need another javascript at all? I'm also looking for any pointers about using the file itself and somehow auto-downloading it to my server on a regular basis. Right now I just saved a copy to my server, but in the future it'd be good to automate grabbing the file from ticTOCs server on a regular basis and updating the one on my server (perhaps I'd need to use a cron job to do that?). cron + wget/curl would be a good first step it would seem. You might want some sort of script that monitors changes or the like. (Maybe send you an email if there's no updates in x days or something like that). Jon Gorman
Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
Hi Derik, This looks good... I suppose the question to some of your questions is what's in your toolbox? Specifically: - Are you running on windows or unix on the server? - Are you able to install anything on the server - are you an admin or similar? - Are you able to run a scripting language like PHP on the server? - Do you have access to a database such as MySQL or MSSQL, etc? I agree with Jon - it'd be much more efficient to store this in a database, and your looking at a simple table to store the ticTocs data. Answers to these questions will help listserv members come up with suitable suggestions - it seems you're comfortable with javascript, so I think you'd be fine with something like Perl of PHP. cheers, Tom On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Derik Badman dbad...@temple.edu wrote: Hello all, Just joined the list, and I'm hoping to get a suggestion or two. I'm working on using the ticTOCs ( http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/ ) text file of rss feed urls for journals to insert links to those feeds in our Serials Solution Journal Finder. I've got it working using a bit of jQuery. Demo here: http://155.247.22.22/badman/toc/demo.html The javascript is here: http://155.247.22.22/badman/toc/toc-rss.js Getting that working wasn't too hard, but I'm a bit concerned about efficiency and caching. I'm not sure the way I'm checking isbns against the text file is the most efficient way to go. Basically I'm making an ajax call to the file that takes the data and makes an array of objects. I then query the isbn of each journal on the page against the array of objects. If there's a match I pull the data and put it on the page. I'm wondering if there's a better way to do this, especially since the text file is over 1mb. I'm not looking for code, just ideas. I'm also looking for any pointers about using the file itself and somehow auto-downloading it to my server on a regular basis. Right now I just saved a copy to my server, but in the future it'd be good to automate grabbing the file from ticTOCs server on a regular basis and updating the one on my server (perhaps I'd need to use a cron job to do that?). Thanks for much for any suggestions or pointers. (For what it's worth, I can manage with javascript or php.) -- Derik A. Badman Digital Services Librarian Reference Librarian for Education and Social Work Temple University Libraries Paley Library 209 Philadelphia, PA Phone: 215-204-5250 Email: dbad...@temple.edu AIM: derikbad Research makes times march forward, it makes time march backward, and it also makes time stand still. -Greil Marcus
Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jon Gorman jonathan.gor...@gmail.comwrote: I guess the first question is if it is really necessary to use a text file? I'm not entirely clear on this process, but perhaps the text file could be imported into a database. At this point the text file is a stop-gap api that ticTOCs is offering (supposedly working an actual api), so this will probably be a temporary situation. I could put all the data into mysql, though then I'd have to figure out how to check the text file for changes and then update the database accordingly. Then of course perhaps there's some way to add this to the Serials Solution database directly? Then you don't need another javascript at all? I'm so disillusioned with them, that I didn't even consider that... cron + wget/curl would be a good first step it would seem. You might want some sort of script that monitors changes or the like. (Maybe send you an email if there's no updates in x days or something like that). Thanks, I'll look into that. -- Derik A. Badman Digital Services Librarian Reference Librarian for Education and Social Work Temple University Libraries Paley Library 209 Philadelphia, PA Phone: 215-204-5250 Email: dbad...@temple.edu AIM: derikbad Research makes times march forward, it makes time march backward, and it also makes time stand still. -Greil Marcus
Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Tom Pasley tom.pas...@gmail.com wrote: - Are you running on windows or unix on the server? -Are you able to install anything on the server - are you an admin or similar? - Are you able to run a scripting language like PHP on the server? - Do you have access to a database such as MySQL or MSSQL, etc? Its unix with php and mysql working on it. I'm not an admin though. it seems you're comfortable with javascript, so I think you'd be fine with something like Perl of PHP. I can get by with php, probably moreso than with javascript at this point. -- Derik A. Badman Digital Services Librarian Reference Librarian for Education and Social Work Temple University Libraries Paley Library 209 Philadelphia, PA Phone: 215-204-5250 Email: dbad...@temple.edu AIM: derikbad Research makes times march forward, it makes time march backward, and it also makes time stand still. -Greil Marcus
Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
This data (the Tic-Tocs RSS URLs) is also available via xISSN. For example: http://xissn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/issn/1095-9203?method=getMetadata format=xmlfl=* Look for the rssurl attribute. For information on xISSN see: http://xissn.worldcat.org/xissnadmin/ Roy On 6/11/09 6/11/09 12:36 PM, Derik Badman dbad...@temple.edu wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jon Gorman jonathan.gor...@gmail.comwrote: I guess the first question is if it is really necessary to use a text file? I'm not entirely clear on this process, but perhaps the text file could be imported into a database. At this point the text file is a stop-gap api that ticTOCs is offering (supposedly working an actual api), so this will probably be a temporary situation. I could put all the data into mysql, though then I'd have to figure out how to check the text file for changes and then update the database accordingly. Then of course perhaps there's some way to add this to the Serials Solution database directly? Then you don't need another javascript at all? I'm so disillusioned with them, that I didn't even consider that... cron + wget/curl would be a good first step it would seem. You might want some sort of script that monitors changes or the like. (Maybe send you an email if there's no updates in x days or something like that). Thanks, I'll look into that. --
Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
Roy, Just to clarify, you have to be an OCLC cataloging member to use this beyond 100 uses per day, correct? Thanks, Annette On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Roy Tennanttenna...@oclc.org wrote: This data (the Tic-Tocs RSS URLs) is also available via xISSN. For example: http://xissn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/issn/1095-9203?method=getMetadata format=xmlfl=* Look for the rssurl attribute. For information on xISSN see: http://xissn.worldcat.org/xissnadmin/ Roy On 6/11/09 6/11/09 € 12:36 PM, Derik Badman dbad...@temple.edu wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jon Gorman jonathan.gor...@gmail.comwrote: I guess the first question is if it is really necessary to use a text file? I'm not entirely clear on this process, but perhaps the text file could be imported into a database. At this point the text file is a stop-gap api that ticTOCs is offering (supposedly working an actual api), so this will probably be a temporary situation. I could put all the data into mysql, though then I'd have to figure out how to check the text file for changes and then update the database accordingly. Then of course perhaps there's some way to add this to the Serials Solution database directly? Then you don't need another javascript at all? I'm so disillusioned with them, that I didn't even consider that... cron + wget/curl would be a good first step it would seem. You might want some sort of script that monitors changes or the like. (Maybe send you an email if there's no updates in x days or something like that). Thanks, I'll look into that. --
Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
Yes - see this email http://serials.infomotions.com/code4lib/archive/2009/200905/0909.html If you can host yourself, the stand-alone version is efficient and easy to keep up to date - just run a cronjob that downloads the text file from JISC. My WSGI script will automatically pick up if it has changed on disk. - Godmar On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Annette Bailey afbai...@vt.edu wrote: Godmar Back wrote a web service in python for ticTOC with an eye to incorporating links into III's Millennium catalog. http://code.google.com/p/tictoclookup/ http://tictoclookup.appspot.com/ Annette On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Derik Badmandbad...@temple.edu wrote: Hello all, Just joined the list, and I'm hoping to get a suggestion or two. I'm working on using the ticTOCs ( http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/ ) text file of rss feed urls for journals to insert links to those feeds in our Serials Solution Journal Finder. I've got it working using a bit of jQuery. Demo here: http://155.247.22.22/badman/toc/demo.html The javascript is here: http://155.247.22.22/badman/toc/toc-rss.js Getting that working wasn't too hard, but I'm a bit concerned about efficiency and caching. I'm not sure the way I'm checking isbns against the text file is the most efficient way to go. Basically I'm making an ajax call to the file that takes the data and makes an array of objects. I then query the isbn of each journal on the page against the array of objects. If there's a match I pull the data and put it on the page. I'm wondering if there's a better way to do this, especially since the text file is over 1mb. I'm not looking for code, just ideas. I'm also looking for any pointers about using the file itself and somehow auto-downloading it to my server on a regular basis. Right now I just saved a copy to my server, but in the future it'd be good to automate grabbing the file from ticTOCs server on a regular basis and updating the one on my server (perhaps I'd need to use a cron job to do that?). Thanks for much for any suggestions or pointers. (For what it's worth, I can manage with javascript or php.) -- Derik A. Badman Digital Services Librarian Reference Librarian for Education and Social Work Temple University Libraries Paley Library 209 Philadelphia, PA Phone: 215-204-5250 Email: dbad...@temple.edu AIM: derikbad Research makes times march forward, it makes time march backward, and it also makes time stand still. -Greil Marcus
