Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-08-03 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I'm especially interested in anything which gave you an ah-ha! moment when you were working with library data -- the implicit things which didn't make sense until you knew why those crazy librarians did things the way they did. I'd add that you should be open to accepting that some of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-08-02 Thread P Williams
Introduction to this community and related conferences really helped my introduction to libraryland and its vernacular. Regards, Tricia On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Laura Smart laura.j.sm...@gmail.comwrote: Hi folks - What do you include in orientation when you hire a programmer

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-08-02 Thread Mike Smorul
Some lessons from my own introduction coming from an IT/Comp-Sci background years ago. Focus more on the why and use-cases rather than the technology. From a programming perspective much of the technology isn't terribly difficult and is well known at a basic level. How it's used, why certain

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-22 Thread Bigwood, David
The extended ASCII character set, Latin-1, used in the old MARC systems was always something that was neglected to get mentioned and not at all obvious. Now that more systems are using UNICODE it should be less of a problem, all depends on your system and if you still have legacy data.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-22 Thread Walter Lewis
On 22 July 2011, at 1:07 PM, Bigwood, David wrote: The extended ASCII character set, Latin-1, used in the old MARC systems was always something that was neglected to get mentioned and not at all obvious. Now that more systems are using UNICODE it should be less of a problem, all depends on

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-22 Thread Bigwood, David
Of Walter Lewis Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 4:12 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci On 22 July 2011, at 1:07 PM, Bigwood, David wrote: The extended ASCII character set, Latin-1, used in the old MARC systems was always something

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-21 Thread Cowles, Esme
Laura- Yes, that diagram is awesome! It does a great job of dividing up the standards by several different axes. I think the Function section in particular is what I didn't figure out on my own, mostly because I always assumed those functions were all contained in a single standard instead of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Cowles, Esme
Laura- One of the things I wish someone had explained to me at the beginning is all the different metadata standards we use and how they fit together. I'd been working with MARC metadata for years before anyone explained what AACR2 was, or various other controlled vocabulary content

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
Somewhat related is the developing Guide for the Perplexed on the code4lib wiki: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/A_Guide_for_the_Perplexed Feel free to add to it! -Mike On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:04, Laura Smart laura.j.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks - What do you include in

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Bess Sadler
Hi, Laura. Great question, and one that I have asked myself many times. It is sparsely populated, but there is a wiki page about this here: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/A_Guide_for_the_Perplexed It would be a service to the community if you added any answers you find there. Bess On

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Peter Schlumpf
Laura, This is a great question, but a very difficult one for me to answer in a clear way. The no-brainers you list make sense to me. For me, libraries and programming developed almost inseperably. I saw the one as the context in which to do the other. I graduated from the University of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Roy Zimmer
Hi Laura: I started working with/for Library stuff in 1994. Been working on it more or less full-time now for nearly half that time. I moved from the IT department and became a library employee several years back. So...CS degree, no library education, but have picked a lot up over the years.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Laura Smart
Esme (and all) Would Jenn Riley Devin Becker's metadata standards visualization have been helpful to you if it had been available back in the day? http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/~jenlrile/metadatamap/ Perhaps a detailed sub-set thereof? Perhaps at minimum a glossary of acronyms commonly tossed

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Mike Taylor
On 20 July 2011 22:47, Laura Smart laura.j.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Esme (and all) Would Jenn Riley Devin Becker's metadata standards visualization have been helpful to you if it had been available back in the day? http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/~jenlrile/metadatamap/ Perhaps a detailed sub-set

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Genny Engel
Library gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us www.sonomalibrary.org 707 545-0831 x581 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Laura Smart Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:48 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation