Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-08-02 Thread John Klima
] On Behalf Of Nathan Tallman Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:05 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis That's what I'm worried about with MediaWiki. The syntax used when creating and editing pages isn't intuitive and I'm afraid people won't want to use it. I was hoping

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-31 Thread Nate Vack
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Ryan Ordway rord...@oregonstate.edu wrote: 3. The authentication source priority scheme is not at all flexible. We have run into situations where local users that had been around for years suddenly could not login because there is a matching user in the LDAP

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-31 Thread Richmond,Ian
Tallman Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:05 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis That's what I'm worried about with MediaWiki. The syntax used when creating and editing pages isn't intuitive and I'm afraid people won't want to use it. I was hoping someone would

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-30 Thread Ryan Ordway
I will second this. We run Confluence as well, and it worked great as long as we didn't try to do anything fancy with it. Then we decided to expand its use to other units on campus, which meant linking it up with an LDAP directory... 1. There is no facility for moving users from being local

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-30 Thread Cary Gordon
We run a fairly significant Confluence installation on CentOS over VMWare, and have had no problems. Thanks, Cary On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Ryan Ordway rord...@oregonstate.edu wrote: I will second this. We run Confluence as well, and it worked great as long as we didn't try to do

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-26 Thread Shaun Ellis
These wikis use Git as their backend for tracking changes. Kinda cool: https://github.com/al3x/git-wiki http://el-tramo.be/software/wigit/ -Shaun On 7/25/12 9:34 PM, Nate Vack wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: WYSIWYG editors are the bane of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-26 Thread Cary Gordon
More often than not, the author seems to intend the poleaxing of your user experience. Cary On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Nate Vack njv...@wisc.edu wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: WYSIWYG editors are the bane of my existence. Well... it

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-26 Thread David Uspal
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis More often than not, the author seems to intend the poleaxing of your user experience. Cary On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Nate Vack njv...@wisc.edu wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-26 Thread scott bacon
. -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:22 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis More often than not, the author seems to intend the poleaxing of your user experience

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread MJ Ray
Dhanushka Samarakoon dhan...@gmail.com Confluence is free for non-profits, but for academics they charge a reduced fee. http://www.atlassian.com/licensing/confluence If you just want a basic wiki mediawiki would work, but for more elaborated access control (and other features) Confluence

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Christian Pietsch
Hi Nathan, given the huge user base of MediaWiki, you would need very good reasons (read: special requirements) to choose anything else. Also, the large developer community makes Mediawiki a more future-proof choice than anything commercial backed by a single company. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Nate Vack
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Nathan Tallman ntall...@gmail.com wrote: There are a plethora of options for wiki software. Does anyone have any recommendations for a platform that's easy-to-use and has a low-learning curve for users? We looked at a bunch(!) of them a couple years back, and

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Nathan Tallman
That's what I'm worried about with MediaWiki. The syntax used when creating and editing pages isn't intuitive and I'm afraid people won't want to use it. I was hoping someone would recommend a wiki with more of a WYSIWYG type of editing interface. Was also hoping to stick with FLOSS, but perhaps I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Katie Filbert
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Nathan Tallman ntall...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I'm worried about with MediaWiki. The syntax used when creating and editing pages isn't intuitive and I'm afraid people won't want to use it. I was hoping someone would recommend a wiki with more of a WYSIWYG

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Nathan Tallman
Excellent, thank you Katie! Nathan On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Nathan Tallman ntall...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I'm worried about with MediaWiki. The syntax used when creating and editing pages isn't

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Laura Robbins
We use PMWiki (http://pmwiki.org/) as our wiki. It's php based, stable, open source, has a large community of developers, and it's easy to configure and work with. It also has a fairly easy to learn editor. Not quite WYSIWG, but doable. You can also set up a variety of skins for different

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Sean Hannan
As an administrator of a Confluence installation, I have to say that I hate it. Confluence is fine if you are not going to be touching it or doing any kind of local customizations (hooking it into local auth, etc.). If that's the case, you should really be looking at the hosted version. I've

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Nate Vack
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Sean Hannan shan...@jhu.edu wrote: Confluence is fine if you are not going to be touching it or doing any kind of local customizations (hooking it into local auth, etc.). This was the other thing we liked about Apple's Wiki Server -- if you have local auth

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Friscia, Michael
An alternative, which could force a different argument, is that we are moving away from Confluence to Campus Guides from Springshare. Though I do think Confluence is a good product, I might add that I like being able to link it to Jira and SVN. Since these don't apply, if your place uses

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Pottinger, Hardy J.
I'll just say my experience with the Confluence WYSIWYG editor hasn't been great. Now, partly, that might have been the fact that the one page I tried using it on had been migrated from another wiki, so, to be fair, the WYSIWYG editor was being presented with a challenge. But, from a user's POV, I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Cary Gordon
WYSIWYG editors are the bane of my existence. Cary On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Pottinger, Hardy J. pottinge...@umsystem.edu wrote: I'll just say my experience with the Confluence WYSIWYG editor hasn't been great. Now, partly, that might have been the fact that the one page I tried using

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Joel Marchesoni
+1 to this! -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 13:14 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis WYSIWYG editors are the bane of my existence. Cary On Wed, Jul 25, 2012

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Matthew Zimmerman
current institution we use Twiki and Bugzilla and everyone seems happy with both of them. Matt - Original Message - From: Nate Vack njv...@wisc.edu To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:11:25 AM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:32 AM

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-25 Thread Nate Vack
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: WYSIWYG editors are the bane of my existence. Well... it depends on what you want. If you want clean, valid HTML, then yes -- WYSIWYG editors are unholy abominations unleashed upon the earth. If you want documents to look

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-24 Thread Stuart Yeates
The wiki software with the largest user base is undoubtedly media wiki (i.e. wikiepdia). We're moving to it as a platform precisely because to leverage the skills that implies. We're not far enough into our roll out to tell whether it's going to be a success cheers stuart Stuart Yeates

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-24 Thread Cary Gordon
You might want to look at Atlasssian Confluence. They offer free licenses to non-profit and edu. Thanks, Cary On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Stuart Yeates stuart.yea...@vuw.ac.nz wrote: The wiki software with the largest user base is undoubtedly media wiki (i.e. wikiepdia). We're moving

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-24 Thread Friscia, Michael
[CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Cary Gordon [listu...@chillco.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:33 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis You might want to look at Atlasssian Confluence. They offer free licenses to non-profit and edu. Thanks, Cary On Tue, Jul 24

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-24 Thread Dhanushka Samarakoon
Confluence is free for non-profits, but for academics they charge a reduced fee. http://www.atlassian.com/licensing/confluence If you just want a basic wiki mediawiki would work, but for more elaborated access control (and other features) Confluence would be better. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:33

Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

2012-07-24 Thread Gary Thompson
We are very happy with Confluence at UCLA. It supports the wiki metaphor of a pool of labeled/tagged documents with a hierarchical directory-like structure, so you don't have to choose between the two models. Although I usually edit pages in the wiki markup view, many of our users prefer the