Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
Yes, we're aware that we have feeds for dead journals too and are working on a mechanism to strip those out - but thanks for checking that we knew! Terry Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Duncan Sent: 19 February 2009 14:25 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers At 05:57 PM 2/18/2009, Terry wrote: . . . We have been busy developing more flexible APIs and in the course of that today we realised that we were including some records that don't have feeds (and that don't appear in our web interface). We will make sure that we tidy those up. We also appreciate that we have some updating to do because of new launches and title transfers. In the longer term we are looking to publisher-initiated updates to our database via CrossRef. On the flipside, are you aware that there are also feed URLs for discontinued journals? Somehow a journal that stopped publishing in 1996 or 2000 doesn't seem very feed-worthy. (Most of the ones I encountered were for ScienceDirect journals; publisher-initiated updates aren't all they're cracked up to be if the publisher is creating feeds across the board, regardless of whether there's any new content to feed.) Bob Duncan ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~ Robert E. Duncan Systems Librarian Editor of IT Communications Lafayette College Easton, PA 18042 dunc...@lafayette.edu http://library.lafayette.edu/
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
Terry, I appreciate you making this data available. FWIW (and that wouldn't be much) I integrated your RSS data with my somewhat stale data of peer-reviewed journals at http://roytennant.com/proto/peer/ Roy As you may know, ticTOCs is a project funded by JISC in the UK to create a single, freely available source of RSS feeds for tables of contents - see http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/ . Our database now contains over 12,000 journals from over 430 publishers. Up until now the only way to get feeds out of ticTOCs has been to use our web interface to search for feeds and then export them as an OPML file, or one at a time to a feed reader of your choice. We are working on creating APIs to let groups like the code4lib community extract our data in more flexible ways, but it has been pointed out to us - see http://robotlibrarian.billdueber.com/tictocs-give-us-a-file-pretty-pretty-pret ty-please/ - that all you really need (at least at first) is a simple tab-delimited file that contains titles, ISSNs, and feed URIs for all of the journals in tocTOCs. We now provide precisely this at http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/text.php. We hope that you will use this data to populate your catalog, A-Z journals list or whatever with RSS feed icons/links, or embedded TOCs. We look forward to the day when SFX, SerialsSolutions and the like are all using our data! Although the project phase of ticTOCs is very nearly at end end, we are confident that we are very close to ensuring that the future of ticTOCs is assured for at least the next three years, and will continue to be free. Share and enjoy. Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681 --
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
Terry, I was very pleased with the tab delimited file. I have read it into a table and joined it to our catalog, that is now showing rss buttons in the A-Z list and 'recent articles' when presenting a full record presentation of a single catalog record. I discovered two problems with the file however. 1. I found two lines containing carriage returns, messing up these rows. (see 2. There are titles in the list that do have a title and an issn, but that do not have a url of a rss feed. (e.g. Cell Differentiation) Do you know of these problems ? Regards, Peter Drs. P.J.C. van Boheemen Hoofd Applicatieontwikkeling en beheer - Bibliotheek Wageningen UR Head of Application Development and Management - Wageningen University and Research Library tel. +31 317 48 25 17 http://library.wur.nl http://library.wur.nl/ P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: Code for Libraries on behalf of Bucknell, Terry Sent: Wed 11-2-2009 23:11 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers As you may know, ticTOCs is a project funded by JISC in the UK to create a single, freely available source of RSS feeds for tables of contents - see http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/ . Our database now contains over 12,000 journals from over 430 publishers. Up until now the only way to get feeds out of ticTOCs has been to use our web interface to search for feeds and then export them as an OPML file, or one at a time to a feed reader of your choice. We are working on creating APIs to let groups like the code4lib community extract our data in more flexible ways, but it has been pointed out to us - see http://robotlibrarian.billdueber.com/tictocs-give-us-a-file-pretty-pretty-pretty-please/ - that all you really need (at least at first) is a simple tab-delimited file that contains titles, ISSNs, and feed URIs for all of the journals in tocTOCs. We now provide precisely this at http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/text.php. We hope that you will use this data to populate your catalog, A-Z journals list or whatever with RSS feed icons/links, or embedded TOCs. We look forward to the day when SFX, SerialsSolutions and the like are all using our data! Although the project phase of ticTOCs is very nearly at end end, we are confident that we are very close to ensuring that the future of ticTOCs is assured for at least the next three years, and will continue to be free. Share and enjoy. Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
Peter, Yes, previous emails off-list had alerted us first to 70 or so titles with carriage returns, and (after we'd tidied those up) yesterday to just two: 4815Genes Development 11707Quality and Safety in Health Care I hope they were the ones that you found. They should be OK now. If not, feel free to email off-list to tell me the two new culprits are! We have been busy developing more flexible APIs and in the course of that today we realised that we were including some records that don't have feeds (and that don't appear in our web interface). We will make sure that we tidy those up. We also appreciate that we have some updating to do because of new launches and title transfers. In the longer term we are looking to publisher-initiated updates to our database via CrossRef. Thank you for sharing what you have done with our data. We welcome 'case studies' which we can use to suggest what people can do with this stuff. Please share with any user group for your cataloguing system too! I'll email this list again once we think the data has been cleaned up, and once we have other APIs to try out and comment on. Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681 From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Boheemen, Peter van [peter.vanbohee...@wur.nl] Sent: 18 February 2009 20:34 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers Terry, I was very pleased with the tab delimited file. I have read it into a table and joined it to our catalog, that is now showing rss buttons in the A-Z list and 'recent articles' when presenting a full record presentation of a single catalog record. I discovered two problems with the file however. 1. I found two lines containing carriage returns, messing up these rows. (see 2. There are titles in the list that do have a title and an issn, but that do not have a url of a rss feed. (e.g. Cell Differentiation) Do you know of these problems ? Regards, Peter Drs. P.J.C. van Boheemen Hoofd Applicatieontwikkeling en beheer - Bibliotheek Wageningen UR Head of Application Development and Management - Wageningen University and Research Library tel. +31 317 48 25 17 http://library.wur.nl http://library.wur.nl/ P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: Code for Libraries on behalf of Bucknell, Terry Sent: Wed 11-2-2009 23:11 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers As you may know, ticTOCs is a project funded by JISC in the UK to create a single, freely available source of RSS feeds for tables of contents - see http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/ . Our database now contains over 12,000 journals from over 430 publishers. Up until now the only way to get feeds out of ticTOCs has been to use our web interface to search for feeds and then export them as an OPML file, or one at a time to a feed reader of your choice. We are working on creating APIs to let groups like the code4lib community extract our data in more flexible ways, but it has been pointed out to us - see http://robotlibrarian.billdueber.com/tictocs-give-us-a-file-pretty-pretty-pretty-please/ - that all you really need (at least at first) is a simple tab-delimited file that contains titles, ISSNs, and feed URIs for all of the journals in tocTOCs. We now provide precisely this at http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/text.php. We hope that you will use this data to populate your catalog, A-Z journals list or whatever with RSS feed icons/links, or embedded TOCs. We look forward to the day when SFX, SerialsSolutions and the like are all using our data! Although the project phase of ticTOCs is very nearly at end end, we are confident that we are very close to ensuring that the future of ticTOCs is assured for at least the next three years, and will continue to be free. Share and enjoy. Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
Eric, You might be interested to know then that Lund University Libraries, the people behind the DOAJ, have been doing this for years, since before publisher RSS feeds and NGCs. They make it available to other libraries too (for a fee) with your holdings indexed so you can search for full text articles only. See http://www.lub.lu.se/en/search/information-about-elinlund.html -- Laurence Lockton University of Bath UK Date:Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:21:32 -0500 From:Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu Subject: Re: ticTOCs makes its data available to developers On 2/11/09 5:11 PM, Bucknell, Terry t.d.buckn...@liverpool.ac.uk wrote: We are working on creating APIs to let groups like the code4lib community extract our data in more flexible ways, but it has been pointed out to us - see http://robotlibrarian.billdueber.com/tictocs-give-us-a-file-pretty-prett y-pret ty-please/ - that all you really need (at least at first) is a simple tab-delimited file that contains titles, ISSNs, and feed URIs for all of the journals in tocTOCs. We now provide precisely this at http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/text.php. This is pretty cool. I can see: 1. Selecting one or more of the RSS feeds that fit within the collection development policy of a particular library 2. Regularly visiting the RSS feeds to extract the metadata of newly available articles 3. Adding that metadata to a library's next generation library catalog/index 4. And you can figure out the rest Such a thing would be complementary to the article-level metadata available from the DOAJ. Hmmm... ticTOC++ -- Eric Lease Morgan Head, Digital Access and Information Architecture Department Hesburgh Libraries, University of Notre Dame (574) 631-8604 --
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
On 2/17/09 6:47 AM, Laurence Lockton l.g.lock...@bath.ac.uk wrote: You might be interested to know then that Lund University Libraries, the people behind the DOAJ, have been doing this for years, since before publisher RSS feeds and NGCs. They make it available to other libraries too (for a fee) with your holdings indexed so you can search for full text articles only. See http://www.lub.lu.se/en/search/information-about-elinlund.html Very interesting. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, and I'd like to comment on make it available to other libraries part. I always thought it would be interesting to distribute indexes of the DOAJ content more widely. More specifically: * create (Lucene) indexes for all the OAI DOAJ article sets * distribute the indexes through something like BitTorrent * provide a way to mix and merge the selected indexes * provide tools to search the result In such a way a library could select subsets apropos to their collection development policy, and maybe integrate the whole thing into their NGC. There is no reason why the indexes would have to be limited to OAI DOAJ sets, but it could also include other OAI-accessible content, or content extracted from mirrored journal literature. In short, library as bibliographic index publisher. -- Eric Lease Morgan
[CODE4LIB] DOAJ (was RE: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers)
... I always thought it would be interesting to distribute indexes of the DOAJ content more widely. ... Fwiw: The NSDL currently harvests metadata, crawls content, and indexes both for nine of the seventeen DOAJ subjects. We gather science, math, engineering, and technology related DOAJ subjects: Subject(item counts) - Technology and Engineering (15,248) Physics and Astronomy (5,712) Mathematics and Statistics (10,726) Health Sciences (88,726) Earth and Environmental Science (12,227) Social Sciences (27,952) Chemistry (12,089) Biology and Life Sciences (45,987) Agriculture and Food Sciences (21,923) The NSDL search service is described here: http://ncore.nsdl.org/index.php?menu=servicessubmenu=services!search The search UI and API are documented here: http://wiki.nsdl.org/index.php/Community:Search The above are maintained as separate collections, and the API allows for filtering by one or more collection. All NSDL metadata content is available via OAI-PMH here: http://ndr.nsdl.org/oai -Tim Timothy Cornwell, Programmer/Analyst National Science Digital Library (http://nsdl.org) 301 College Avenue Ithaca, NY 14850 (607)255-3297 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Lease Morgan Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:12 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers On 2/17/09 6:47 AM, Laurence Lockton l.g.lock...@bath.ac.uk wrote: You might be interested to know then that Lund University Libraries, the people behind the DOAJ, have been doing this for years, since before publisher RSS feeds and NGCs. They make it available to other libraries too (for a fee) with your holdings indexed so you can search for full text articles only. See http://www.lub.lu.se/en/search/information-about-elinlund.html Very interesting. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, and I'd like to comment on make it available to other libraries part. I always thought it would be interesting to distribute indexes of the DOAJ content more widely. More specifically: * create (Lucene) indexes for all the OAI DOAJ article sets * distribute the indexes through something like BitTorrent * provide a way to mix and merge the selected indexes * provide tools to search the result In such a way a library could select subsets apropos to their collection development policy, and maybe integrate the whole thing into their NGC. There is no reason why the indexes would have to be limited to OAI DOAJ sets, but it could also include other OAI-accessible content, or content extracted from mirrored journal literature. In short, library as bibliographic index publisher. -- Eric Lease Morgan
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
How does this compare to Zetoc at Mimas, which also provides RSS feeds for journal ToCs? Rob On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Boheemen, Peter van wrote: This is great !!! But don't forget the API ! Peter -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Bucknell, Terry Sent: woensdag 11 februari 2009 23:12 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers As you may know, ticTOCs is a project funded by JISC in the UK to create a single, freely available source of RSS feeds for tables of contents - see http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/ . Our database now contains over 12,000 journals from over 430 publishers. Up until now the only way to get feeds out of ticTOCs has been to use our web interface to search for feeds and then export them as an OPML file, or one at a time to a feed reader of your choice. We are working on creating APIs to let groups like the code4lib community extract our data in more flexible ways, but it has been pointed out to us - see http://robotlibrarian.billdueber.com/tictocs-give-us-a-file-pretty-prett y-pretty-please/ - that all you really need (at least at first) is a simple tab-delimited file that contains titles, ISSNs, and feed URIs for all of the journals in tocTOCs. We now provide precisely this at http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/text.php. We hope that you will use this data to populate your catalog, A-Z journals list or whatever with RSS feed icons/links, or embedded TOCs. We look forward to the day when SFX, SerialsSolutions and the like are all using our data! Although the project phase of ticTOCs is very nearly at end end, we are confident that we are very close to ensuring that the future of ticTOCs is assured for at least the next three years, and will continue to be free. Share and enjoy. Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
I'll do my best to clarify the differences between Zetoc and ticTOCs, as best as I understand them: Zetoc covers about 20,000 journals, including journals that are print-only, or that exist online but do not provide their own RSS feeds ticTOCs covers about 12,000, limited to journals that provide their own RSS feeds (so this excludes print-only journals in the main) Zetoc is based the British Library's acquisitions of print issues, with data re-keyed into to system, which means that it may be a few weeks between an issue being published an appearing in Zetoc. ticTOCs uses feeds from the publishers (or their online hosts), so they are as up to date as the publisher wants to make them. Sometimes ticTOCs offers the latest issue feed and the 'articles in press feed', if that is what the publishers offer. Zetoc only contains tables of contents ticTOCs contains whatever the publisher chooses to include in its feed, which may include abstracts, subject terms, DOIs, and graphical abstracts (especially for chemistry titles) Zetoc is hosted at MIMAS ticTOCs is hosted at MIMAS Zetoc provides email alerts of RSS feeds ticTOCs provides RSS feeds only (but it's getting much easier to get your feeds into your email client if that's the way you want to work, right?) So to summarise, Zetoc covers more journals, but ticTOCs should be more up to date and contains richer content. Terry Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Dr R. Sanderson Sent: 12 February 2009 10:04 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers How does this compare to Zetoc at Mimas, which also provides RSS feeds for journal ToCs? Rob On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Boheemen, Peter van wrote: This is great !!! But don't forget the API ! Peter -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Bucknell, Terry Sent: woensdag 11 februari 2009 23:12 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers As you may know, ticTOCs is a project funded by JISC in the UK to create a single, freely available source of RSS feeds for tables of contents - see http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/ . Our database now contains over 12,000 journals from over 430 publishers. Up until now the only way to get feeds out of ticTOCs has been to use our web interface to search for feeds and then export them as an OPML file, or one at a time to a feed reader of your choice. We are working on creating APIs to let groups like the code4lib community extract our data in more flexible ways, but it has been pointed out to us - see http://robotlibrarian.billdueber.com/tictocs-give-us-a-file-pretty-prett y-pretty-please/ - that all you really need (at least at first) is a simple tab-delimited file that contains titles, ISSNs, and feed URIs for all of the journals in tocTOCs. We now provide precisely this at http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/text.php. We hope that you will use this data to populate your catalog, A-Z journals list or whatever with RSS feed icons/links, or embedded TOCs. We look forward to the day when SFX, SerialsSolutions and the like are all using our data! Although the project phase of ticTOCs is very nearly at end end, we are confident that we are very close to ensuring that the future of ticTOCs is assured for at least the next three years, and will continue to be free. Share and enjoy. Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
Thanks Terry, a really good comparison! One more that I came up with, in thinking about this slightly further ... ticTOCs is open to the public whereas ZETOC requires an institutional login to access the data. A big plus on ticTOCs' side! Rob On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Bucknell, Terry wrote: Zetoc covers about 20,000 journals, including journals that are print-only, or that exist online but do not provide their own RSS feeds ticTOCs covers about 12,000, limited to journals that provide their own RSS feeds (so this excludes print-only journals in the main) Zetoc is based the British Library's acquisitions of print issues, with data re-keyed into to system, which means that it may be a few weeks between an issue being published an appearing in Zetoc. ticTOCs uses feeds from the publishers (or their online hosts), so they are as up to date as the publisher wants to make them. Sometimes Zetoc only contains tables of contents ticTOCs contains whatever the publisher chooses to include in its feed, which may include abstracts, subject terms, DOIs, and graphical abstracts (especially for chemistry titles) So to summarise, Zetoc covers more journals, but ticTOCs should be more up to date and contains richer content.
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
I knew there was something I forgot to mention! Terry -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Dr R. Sanderson Sent: 12 February 2009 11:58 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers Thanks Terry, a really good comparison! One more that I came up with, in thinking about this slightly further ... ticTOCs is open to the public whereas ZETOC requires an institutional login to access the data. A big plus on ticTOCs' side! Rob On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Bucknell, Terry wrote: Zetoc covers about 20,000 journals, including journals that are print-only, or that exist online but do not provide their own RSS feeds ticTOCs covers about 12,000, limited to journals that provide their own RSS feeds (so this excludes print-only journals in the main) Zetoc is based the British Library's acquisitions of print issues, with data re-keyed into to system, which means that it may be a few weeks between an issue being published an appearing in Zetoc. ticTOCs uses feeds from the publishers (or their online hosts), so they are as up to date as the publisher wants to make them. Sometimes Zetoc only contains tables of contents ticTOCs contains whatever the publisher chooses to include in its feed, which may include abstracts, subject terms, DOIs, and graphical abstracts (especially for chemistry titles) So to summarise, Zetoc covers more journals, but ticTOCs should be more up to date and contains richer content.
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
I was one of the developers and primary maintainer for severals years for a TOC services at Cornell that was created about 5 years ago. The UI is pretty dated but it still is used quite a bit although it does note produce an RSS feed. It's only available to Cornell patrons because it's integrated with our catalog and ez-proxy system such that a patron can subscribe to a journal TOC, receive the TOC as an email message when it becomes available then click on any article int the TOC and withing 1-2 clicks see the full text of the article. The user also has the option of viewing TOCs in multiple formats. This is facilitated by taking the incoming TOC from the vendor, transforming it to XML, the applying a XSL style sheet to produce different formats including plain text, html, endnote, refworks, and a couple of others.
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
I hadn't known about Zetoc either! How did I miss that? They both seem very useful. One of the tricks with using ticTOCs, is that the RSS feeds (provided by the publisher) may include links to article full text that may or may not be accessible to any given institution's patrons, depending on whether that institution buys content from that publisher. Figuring out how to have software either filter out these inaccessible links, or even better yet figure out a way to generate an OpenURL link that might get the user to the full text for that article from a _different_ source -- kind of tricky. I'm not quite sure how to deal with this yet, thinking about wanting to use TicTOCs stuff in my software. I am religiously opposed to giving users links to things they can't access, without warning. So in that sense, Zetoc is actually easier because it's simpler. Since it doesn't in fact come from the vendor(s), it shouldn't include any vendor-specific URLs, right? It does less, but since it does it simpler, it's a bit more straightforward and 'normalized', I'm thinking. So I'm excited about looking into Zetoc (Umlaut service!), thanks for the pointer, I hadn't heard of Zetoc before. Jonathan Bucknell, Terry wrote: I'll do my best to clarify the differences between Zetoc and ticTOCs, as best as I understand them: Zetoc covers about 20,000 journals, including journals that are print-only, or that exist online but do not provide their own RSS feeds ticTOCs covers about 12,000, limited to journals that provide their own RSS feeds (so this excludes print-only journals in the main) Zetoc is based the British Library's acquisitions of print issues, with data re-keyed into to system, which means that it may be a few weeks between an issue being published an appearing in Zetoc. ticTOCs uses feeds from the publishers (or their online hosts), so they are as up to date as the publisher wants to make them. Sometimes ticTOCs offers the latest issue feed and the 'articles in press feed', if that is what the publishers offer. Zetoc only contains tables of contents ticTOCs contains whatever the publisher chooses to include in its feed, which may include abstracts, subject terms, DOIs, and graphical abstracts (especially for chemistry titles) Zetoc is hosted at MIMAS ticTOCs is hosted at MIMAS Zetoc provides email alerts of RSS feeds ticTOCs provides RSS feeds only (but it's getting much easier to get your feeds into your email client if that's the way you want to work, right?) So to summarise, Zetoc covers more journals, but ticTOCs should be more up to date and contains richer content. Terry Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Dr R. Sanderson Sent: 12 February 2009 10:04 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers How does this compare to Zetoc at Mimas, which also provides RSS feeds for journal ToCs? Rob On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Boheemen, Peter van wrote: This is great !!! But don't forget the API ! Peter -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Bucknell, Terry Sent: woensdag 11 februari 2009 23:12 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers As you may know, ticTOCs is a project funded by JISC in the UK to create a single, freely available source of RSS feeds for tables of contents - see http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/ . Our database now contains over 12,000 journals from over 430 publishers. Up until now the only way to get feeds out of ticTOCs has been to use our web interface to search for feeds and then export them as an OPML file, or one at a time to a feed reader of your choice. We are working on creating APIs to let groups like the code4lib community extract our data in more flexible ways, but it has been pointed out to us - see http://robotlibrarian.billdueber.com/tictocs-give-us-a-file-pretty-prett y-pretty-please/ - that all you really need (at least at first) is a simple tab-delimited file that contains titles, ISSNs, and feed URIs for all of the journals in tocTOCs. We now provide precisely this at http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/text.php. We hope that you will use this data to populate your catalog, A-Z journals list or whatever with RSS feed icons/links, or embedded TOCs. We look forward to the day when SFX, SerialsSolutions and the like are all using our data! Although the project phase of ticTOCs is very nearly at end end, we are confident that we are very close to ensuring that the future of ticTOCs is assured for at least the next three years, and will continue to be free. Share and enjoy. Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney
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Doh, is Zetoc not free? Nevermind my excitement about it in that case. :) Jonathan Dr R. Sanderson wrote: Thanks Terry, a really good comparison! One more that I came up with, in thinking about this slightly further ... ticTOCs is open to the public whereas ZETOC requires an institutional login to access the data. A big plus on ticTOCs' side! Rob On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Bucknell, Terry wrote: Zetoc covers about 20,000 journals, including journals that are print-only, or that exist online but do not provide their own RSS feeds ticTOCs covers about 12,000, limited to journals that provide their own RSS feeds (so this excludes print-only journals in the main) Zetoc is based the British Library's acquisitions of print issues, with data re-keyed into to system, which means that it may be a few weeks between an issue being published an appearing in Zetoc. ticTOCs uses feeds from the publishers (or their online hosts), so they are as up to date as the publisher wants to make them. Sometimes Zetoc only contains tables of contents ticTOCs contains whatever the publisher chooses to include in its feed, which may include abstracts, subject terms, DOIs, and graphical abstracts (especially for chemistry titles) So to summarise, Zetoc covers more journals, but ticTOCs should be more up to date and contains richer content.
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If your institution uses EZproxy then you can of course link to ticTOCs via EZproxy and you should find that full-text articles are then available to your patrons (where entitled of course). That's what we do at Liverpool. If your institution has configured a LibX toolbar and the publisher's feeds include DOIs then LibX turns those DOIs into OpenURL links. It sounds like what you would really like to be able to do though is to pre-query your link resolver to determine (and indicate) if you have full-text access. For that, I think you'd need all feeds to include DOIs and be structured consistently so that you could extract it, build and OpenURL and query your knowledgebase. Another aspect of ticTOCs is that we have a group who are looking to come up with a set of best practice recommendations for publishers, about how to structure their feeds and what to include in them. CrossRef are involved with this so the recommendations will certainly say that DOIs should be included, and the recommendations should be disseminated to publishers' technical people by CrossRef, so we do expect them to be taken up in time. Zetoc is free to UK universities - apologies for forgetting to take off my Limey blinkers! Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681 From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind [rochk...@jhu.edu] Sent: 12 February 2009 17:13 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers I hadn't known about Zetoc either! How did I miss that? They both seem very useful. One of the tricks with using ticTOCs, is that the RSS feeds (provided by the publisher) may include links to article full text that may or may not be accessible to any given institution's patrons, depending on whether that institution buys content from that publisher. Figuring out how to have software either filter out these inaccessible links, or even better yet figure out a way to generate an OpenURL link that might get the user to the full text for that article from a _different_ source -- kind of tricky. I'm not quite sure how to deal with this yet, thinking about wanting to use TicTOCs stuff in my software. I am religiously opposed to giving users links to things they can't access, without warning. So in that sense, Zetoc is actually easier because it's simpler. Since it doesn't in fact come from the vendor(s), it shouldn't include any vendor-specific URLs, right? It does less, but since it does it simpler, it's a bit more straightforward and 'normalized', I'm thinking. So I'm excited about looking into Zetoc (Umlaut service!), thanks for the pointer, I hadn't heard of Zetoc before. Jonathan Bucknell, Terry wrote: I'll do my best to clarify the differences between Zetoc and ticTOCs, as best as I understand them: Zetoc covers about 20,000 journals, including journals that are print-only, or that exist online but do not provide their own RSS feeds ticTOCs covers about 12,000, limited to journals that provide their own RSS feeds (so this excludes print-only journals in the main) Zetoc is based the British Library's acquisitions of print issues, with data re-keyed into to system, which means that it may be a few weeks between an issue being published an appearing in Zetoc. ticTOCs uses feeds from the publishers (or their online hosts), so they are as up to date as the publisher wants to make them. Sometimes ticTOCs offers the latest issue feed and the 'articles in press feed', if that is what the publishers offer. Zetoc only contains tables of contents ticTOCs contains whatever the publisher chooses to include in its feed, which may include abstracts, subject terms, DOIs, and graphical abstracts (especially for chemistry titles) Zetoc is hosted at MIMAS ticTOCs is hosted at MIMAS Zetoc provides email alerts of RSS feeds ticTOCs provides RSS feeds only (but it's getting much easier to get your feeds into your email client if that's the way you want to work, right?) So to summarise, Zetoc covers more journals, but ticTOCs should be more up to date and contains richer content. Terry Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Dr R. Sanderson Sent: 12 February 2009 10:04 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers How does this compare to Zetoc at Mimas, which also provides RSS feeds for journal ToCs? Rob On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Boheemen, Peter van wrote: This is great !!! But don't
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Bucknell, Terry wrote: If your institution uses EZproxy then you can of course link to ticTOCs via EZproxy and you should find that full-text articles are then available to your patrons (where entitled of course). That's what we do at Liverpool. It's the where entitled that is the sticking point. It's quite possible, and even likely, that some of the URLs referenced in ticTOCs are not entitled to my patrons. This is a non-trivial problem. I'm glad you're looking at reccommendations for best practices/standardization for publisher RSS feeds. One of the key requirements, for the uses I can think of, is that for an article-level entry, either an OpenURL context object should be included in the entry somewhere (possibly using COinS), or structured citation information sufficient to construct an OpenURL context object should be included (normally, minimally issn, year, vol, issue, start page number). I hope you consider that in your reccomendations. Jonathan If your institution has configured a LibX toolbar and the publisher's feeds include DOIs then LibX turns those DOIs into OpenURL links. It sounds like what you would really like to be able to do though is to pre-query your link resolver to determine (and indicate) if you have full-text access. For that, I think you'd need all feeds to include DOIs and be structured consistently so that you could extract it, build and OpenURL and query your knowledgebase. Another aspect of ticTOCs is that we have a group who are looking to come up with a set of best practice recommendations for publishers, about how to structure their feeds and what to include in them. CrossRef are involved with this so the recommendations will certainly say that DOIs should be included, and the recommendations should be disseminated to publishers' technical people by CrossRef, so we do expect them to be taken up in time. Zetoc is free to UK universities - apologies for forgetting to take off my Limey blinkers! Terry Bucknell Electronic Resources Manager Sydney Jones Library University of Liverpool Chatham St, PO Box 123 Liverpool, L69 3DA, UK Tel: +44 (0)151 794 2692 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 2681 From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind [rochk...@jhu.edu] Sent: 12 February 2009 17:13 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers I hadn't known about Zetoc either! How did I miss that? They both seem very useful. One of the tricks with using ticTOCs, is that the RSS feeds (provided by the publisher) may include links to article full text that may or may not be accessible to any given institution's patrons, depending on whether that institution buys content from that publisher. Figuring out how to have software either filter out these inaccessible links, or even better yet figure out a way to generate an OpenURL link that might get the user to the full text for that article from a _different_ source -- kind of tricky. I'm not quite sure how to deal with this yet, thinking about wanting to use TicTOCs stuff in my software. I am religiously opposed to giving users links to things they can't access, without warning. So in that sense, Zetoc is actually easier because it's simpler. Since it doesn't in fact come from the vendor(s), it shouldn't include any vendor-specific URLs, right? It does less, but since it does it simpler, it's a bit more straightforward and 'normalized', I'm thinking. So I'm excited about looking into Zetoc (Umlaut service!), thanks for the pointer, I hadn't heard of Zetoc before. Jonathan Bucknell, Terry wrote: I'll do my best to clarify the differences between Zetoc and ticTOCs, as best as I understand them: Zetoc covers about 20,000 journals, including journals that are print-only, or that exist online but do not provide their own RSS feeds ticTOCs covers about 12,000, limited to journals that provide their own RSS feeds (so this excludes print-only journals in the main) Zetoc is based the British Library's acquisitions of print issues, with data re-keyed into to system, which means that it may be a few weeks between an issue being published an appearing in Zetoc. ticTOCs uses feeds from the publishers (or their online hosts), so they are as up to date as the publisher wants to make them. Sometimes ticTOCs offers the latest issue feed and the 'articles in press feed', if that is what the publishers offer. Zetoc only contains tables of contents ticTOCs contains whatever the publisher chooses to include in its feed, which may include abstracts, subject terms, DOIs, and graphical abstracts (especially for chemistry titles) Zetoc is hosted at MIMAS ticTOCs is hosted at MIMAS Zetoc provides email alerts of RSS feeds ticTOCs provides RSS feeds only (but it's getting much easier to get your feeds into your email client if that's the way you want to work, right?) So
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On 2/11/09 5:11 PM, Bucknell, Terry t.d.buckn...@liverpool.ac.uk wrote: We are working on creating APIs to let groups like the code4lib community extract our data in more flexible ways, but it has been pointed out to us - see http://robotlibrarian.billdueber.com/tictocs-give-us-a-file-pretty-pretty-pret ty-please/ - that all you really need (at least at first) is a simple tab-delimited file that contains titles, ISSNs, and feed URIs for all of the journals in tocTOCs. We now provide precisely this at http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/text.php. This is pretty cool. I can see: 1. Selecting one or more of the RSS feeds that fit within the collection development policy of a particular library 2. Regularly visiting the RSS feeds to extract the metadata of newly available articles 3. Adding that metadata to a library's next generation library catalog/index 4. And you can figure out the rest Such a thing would be complementary to the article-level metadata available from the DOAJ. Hmmm... ticTOC++ -- Eric Lease Morgan Head, Digital Access and Information Architecture Department Hesburgh Libraries, University of Notre Dame (574) 631-8604
