Re: [CODE4LIB] z39.50 and write operations

2011-06-03 Thread Reese, Terry
Yes, but only if the server you are using supports the z39.50 extended 
attributes.  However, few commercial ils systems seem to support it by default.

Tr

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-Original Message-
From: Eric Lease Morgan
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:16 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] z39.50 and write operations


Does Z39.50 support write operations?

We here at Notre Dame may be working with a vendor in the near future who will 
be reading our MARC bibliographic records via Z39.50. I have also been told, 
not necessarily by the vendor, that these same records will be updated and 
reinserted back into our catalog by the vendor. I am quite familiar with 
Z39.50's ability to search and download content, but I am not familiar with its 
ability to write back to the server. Is this possible?

--
Eric Lease Morgan
University of Notre Dame


Re: [CODE4LIB] z39.50 and write operations

2011-06-03 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Reese, Terry wrote:

 Does Z39.50 support write operations?
 
 Yes, but only if the server you are using supports the z39.50 extended 
 attributes. However, few commercial ILS systems seem to support it by default.

Well, you learn something new everyday. Thank you. Does anybody know whether or 
not Ex Libris's Alelph has such support?

-- 
Eric Morgan


Re: [CODE4LIB] z39.50 and write operations

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Spero
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote:

 On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Reese, Terry wrote:

  Does Z39.50 support write operations?
 
  Yes, but only if the server you are using supports the z39.50 extended
 attributes. However, few commercial ILS systems seem to support it by
 default.

 Well, you learn something new everyday. Thank you. Does anybody know
 whether or not Ex Libris's Alelph has such support?


Except for Louis XVIII...

There's a registry of Z39.50 implementations at
http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/register/entries.html , which lists Aleph as
supporting the Database Update Extended Service (see Z39.50
2003http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/Z39-50-2003.pdf,
pp. 141-145 and pp. 255-256.

You can also ask the server itself, using the Explain service. Sometimes
the server may even tell the truth.

One thing to be wary of is that a lot of vendors do not put much effort into
their Z39.50 implementations in case customers try to escape; there may be
some arbitrary limitations or holdings related issue put in to make sure you
remember who's boss.

Simon


Re: [CODE4LIB] z39.50 and write operations

2011-06-03 Thread Mike Taylor
Zebra does.  http://indexdata.com/zebra/

On 3 June 2011 20:19, Reese, Terry terry.re...@oregonstate.edu wrote:
 Yes, but only if the server you are using supports the z39.50 extended 
 attributes.  However, few commercial ils systems seem to support it by 
 default.

 Tr

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 Terry Reese
 Gray Family Chair for
 Innovative Library Services
 121 Valley Library
 Corvallis,  OR 97331
 phone:  541.737.6384
 *

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Lease Morgan
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:16 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: [CODE4LIB] z39.50 and write operations


 Does Z39.50 support write operations?

 We here at Notre Dame may be working with a vendor in the near future who 
 will be reading our MARC bibliographic records via Z39.50. I have also been 
 told, not necessarily by the vendor, that these same records will be updated 
 and reinserted back into our catalog by the vendor. I am quite familiar with 
 Z39.50's ability to search and download content, but I am not familiar with 
 its ability to write back to the server. Is this possible?

 --
 Eric Lease Morgan
 University of Notre Dame